Alvarado v Provodkinov

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Omerta wrote:Wish it was on BN as they would have broadcast the yank commentary gonna have to put up with jim watt waffling pish for the whole fight on sky sports
Turn the sound down
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palooka wrote:
Omerta wrote:Wish it was on BN as they would have broadcast the yank commentary gonna have to put up with jim watt waffling pish for the whole fight on sky sports
Turn the sound down
"Nick ! I canny understaaand why Alvarado is not using his jab !! He's playing into Provodkin's hands here !!"
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http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing- ... 51510.html


If Mike's game stays tight and he boxes, he'll win this, but if he gets tagged, hurt, and starts brawling...then it's bombs away and the Russian looks a slight favorite.

But Bradley made a massive mistake in trading with Prov, and we saw how he'd learned from that last weekend - you'd assume Mike will have learned from that too.
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MightyWarrior wrote:
palooka wrote:
Omerta wrote:Wish it was on BN as they would have broadcast the yank commentary gonna have to put up with jim watt waffling pish for the whole fight on sky sports
Turn the sound down
"Nick ! I canny understaaand why Alvarado is not using his jab !! He's playing into Provodkin's hands here !!"
:bow: I canny understaaand why Bradley isn't throwing more right hands, he canny miss with them....
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Provodnikov SD this fight cant be anything other than an absolute barnstormer :box:
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Fancy provodnikov for the stoppage. Alvarado will outbox him early on but it will become a tear up eventually and the Russian looks hard to beat in that type of a fight.
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Will the altitude affect Ruslan though? Alvarado is a Denver native and so will be well adjusted to less oxygen.
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palooka wrote:Will the altitude affect Ruslan though? Alvarado is a Denver native and so will be well adjusted to less oxygen.
They're not fighting in the Himalayas, palooka.
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Alvarado weighed in 1lb too heavy - had 2 hours to lose it
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Don't think Mike will still be favourite after these pics

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my tenner is on Ruslan; that pic made up my mind :TU:
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Teddy's Toupee wrote:
palooka wrote:Will the altitude affect Ruslan though? Alvarado is a Denver native and so will be well adjusted to less oxygen.
They're not fighting in the Himalayas, palooka.
A mile above sea level is some height to adjust to.
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MightyWarrior wrote:Don't think Mike will still be favourite after these pics

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Bloody hell!! Provo looks like he'd having the time of his life at the weigh in. I'm jumping camps, Provo stops him.
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MightyWarrior wrote:Don't think Mike will still be favourite after these pics

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Jesus christ. He looks like he's a crack addict or something in that pic! I genuinely struggle to remember of many fighters looking worse that that?! I thought De La Hoya looked terrible when he fought Pacquaio but that's worse.
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Had £20 on the provodkinov stoppage, only £35 profit but makes a great fight greater !
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hurlock wrote:I'm going for provnikov to get ontop of him 8-9 rds going to be brutal with alvarados strength being sapped from him & slowly getting bludgeoned by prov into submission with ref rescuing him with women screaming it's going to be one of them occasions :lol:
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Shann Villhauer, Mike’s trainer commented, “It just wasn’t Mike’s night. He was too defensive. I didn’t like the way he fought. He believed all the press clippings after the Rios rematch about being a great boxer and he got away from what works.
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It was his boxing that won him a few rounds..
Mikes ultimate downfall was that Provodkinov ate up his best Sunday punches and never fornicating blinked from then on he was swimming against a tsunami.
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Final round wrote:It was his boxing that won him a few rounds..
Mikes ultimate downfall was that Provodkinov ate up his best Sunday punches and never effing blinked from then on he was swimming against a tsunami.
I agree with that. He caught Provodkinov FLUSH a number of times, and he carried on walking. If Alvarado's trainer thinks the key was mixing it with Provodkinov more then I feel he is mistaken.
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DMA1987 wrote:
Final round wrote:It was his boxing that won him a few rounds..
Mikes ultimate downfall was that Provodkinov ate up his best Sunday punches and never effing blinked from then on he was swimming against a tsunami.
I agree with that. He caught Provodkinov FLUSH a number of times, and he carried on walking. If Alvarado's trainer thinks the key was mixing it with Provodkinov more then I feel he is mistaken.
Exactly, after trading toe2toe in Rios 1 and coming off worse it was box and move that helped him win the 2nd fight fairly handily in the end. His trainer is trying lay the blame in the way he fought but there was nothing else he could have done.
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If he was concentrating on his boxing & movement he wouldn't need to be being concerned with what effect his Sunday punches are having.

You have to look at who he's "outboxing" and then contrast it - For example, he had life and death with Prescott, but if you compare say, the way Mitchell boxed him it's just light years away in comparison. The same with McCloskey.

The same way Alvarado barely squeaked past Rios, Abril showed how you actually outbox him. Rios has to be one of the most overrated, overhyped fighters of recent years. He's a tough SOB but he is there to be outboxed and he hangs his chin on a plate. He's all offence and now he's no longer got a huge weight advantage come fight night, he's starting to pay the price and he will end up cabbaged in 2-3 fights because he has so little head movement and he just takes punches to give some back. Exciting to watch, not conducive to a healthy life.

Taking nothing away from Alvarado, I've been a fan since he nailed Clottey with that huge punch late on but boxing is not his strength, that's my main point. He is the sort of person you don't want to be facing in the opposite corner.
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Err, well.....I got this one wrong!

Respect to Provodnikov, I thought Alvarado would stop HIM. Although the weight drained pic was a concern.
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orbtastic wrote:If he was concentrating on his boxing & movement he wouldn't need to be being concerned with what effect his Sunday punches are having.

You have to look at who he's "outboxing" and then contrast it - For example, he had life and death with Prescott, but if you compare say, the way Mitchell boxed him it's just light years away in comparison. The same with McCloskey.

The same way Alvarado barely squeaked past Rios, Abril showed how you actually outbox him. Rios has to be one of the most overrated, overhyped fighters of recent years. He's a tough SOB but he is there to be outboxed and he hangs his chin on a plate. He's all offence and now he's no longer got a huge weight advantage come fight night, he's starting to pay the price and he will end up cabbaged in 2-3 fights because he has so little head movement and he just takes punches to give some back. Exciting to watch, not conducive to a healthy life.

Taking nothing away from Alvarado, I've been a fan since he nailed Clottey with that huge punch late on but boxing is not his strength, that's my main point. He is the sort of person you don't want to be facing in the opposite corner.
Couldn't agree more about Rios. He's made for Pacquiao and he is going to take a serious beating in that one. I don't like him at all as a character but don't like to see anybody risk their health the way he does with his straight ahead, defend with his face approach.
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MightyWarrior wrote:Mikey Alvarado is one tough fighter, I really want to see him do well. He's as brave as hell, but his manager is even braver.

Two back to back wars with a pile driving hitter like Brandon Rios, and they follow it straight up by matching him with a beast like Provodkinov: the type of fighter most people will be avoiding without a doubt.

Imagine a WBO UK world champ getting matched like that ? Never happen.

The Siberian Rocky looks as hard as nails, I reckon he wins this.
team Alvarado were holding out for more money, for a while. this fight was not made quickly.

always felt provodnikov would hammer Alvarado. didn't think mike could match him inside. didn't like the way he boxed v rios 2nd fight - all that stance changing and poor balance was going to be disastrous vs provodnikov, with his composure, his straight, short punches, his deft timing of shots, his constant forward momentum. Alvarado's shiftiness vs provodnikov's consistency - kind of reminded me of andy morris getting ground down the steadier but more consistent crolla.

glad to see the Siberian get the stoppage vs a very tough guy.
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Autobarn wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Mikey Alvarado is one tough fighter, I really want to see him do well. He's as brave as hell, but his manager is even braver.

Two back to back wars with a pile driving hitter like Brandon Rios, and they follow it straight up by matching him with a beast like Provodkinov: the type of fighter most people will be avoiding without a doubt.

Imagine a WBO UK world champ getting matched like that ? Never happen.

The Siberian Rocky looks as hard as nails, I reckon he wins this.
team Alvarado were holding out for more money, for a while. this fight was not made quickly.

always felt provodnikov would hammer Alvarado. didn't think mike could match him inside. didn't like the way he boxed v rios 2nd fight - all that stance changing and poor balance was going to be disastrous vs provodnikov, with his composure, his straight, short punches, his deft timing of shots, his constant forward momentum. Alvarado's shiftiness vs provodnikov's consistency - kind of reminded me of andy morris getting ground down the steadier but more consistent crolla.

glad to see the Siberian get the stoppage vs a very tough guy.
The way he boxed in Rios 2 in the reason in the reason he won
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