Joe Calzaghe vs bernad hopkins

Tkokidround1 · Post by **Tkokidround1** » 15 Nov 2005, 17:31

bernad will beat him. calzaghe never beat any proper great lets see how he will get on with the best of the best

jeej · Post by **jeej** » 15 Nov 2005, 17:32

I think we should probably just focus on the Lacy fight for now.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 15 Nov 2005, 17:33

It will never happen.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 15 Nov 2005, 18:33

Tkokidround1 wrote:bernad will beat him. calzaghe never beat any proper great lets see how he will get on with the best of the best

Oh god.

Can somebody put a bar on this guy making new threads? Hopkins is retiring you fornicating clown, now, stop the shit threads.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 15 Nov 2005, 20:24

if it had of happened... Hopkins is 1 level (at least) above JC, Hop would win despite the weight...

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 15 Nov 2005, 21:25

Hop would run away from him and do nothing and lose the first 7 rounds to Joe.

Martin_H · Post by **Martin_H** » 16 Nov 2005, 11:21

I'd have to go with Calzaghe on this one.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 16 Nov 2005, 11:57

Joe would murder him. Hopkins is too old to make this fight against such a monster puncher.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 16 Nov 2005, 12:30

BubiScholz wrote:Joe would murder him. Hopkins is too old to make this fight against such a monster puncher.

Monster puncher? You cannot be serious. He is not a devastating puncher by any means. Most of his stoppages are accumulations of shots, when has he ever knocked anyone out with one punch? I don't think he ever has. In fact when has he ever scored a knockdown with a single shot its usually a flurry of shots.

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 16 Nov 2005, 12:56

nickd wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:Joe would murder him. Hopkins is too old to make this fight against such a monster puncher.
Monster puncher? You cannot be serious. He is not a devastating puncher by any means. Most of his stoppages are accumulations of shots, when has he ever knocked anyone out with one punch? I don't think he ever has. In fact when has he ever scored a knockdown with a single shot its usually a flurry of shots.

you are right, i was so excited and took this word without thinking that much.......

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 16 Nov 2005, 16:14

Hopkins will be retired by Taylor, thus this matchup is history. But the slick and agile counterpuncher Hopkins would have been a style nightmare for Calzaghe; and I'm sure Calzaghe's people know that.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 16 Nov 2005, 16:18

I don't know if Hopkins would be strong enough at 168. But he has one hell of a right lead that no one seems to see coming. And that's one punch Joe's dad never taught him to defend against.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 16 Nov 2005, 17:28

Max Molyneux wrote:Hop would run away from him and do nothing and lose the first 7 rounds to Joe.

Calzaghe KO1 Lion
Calzaghe KO2 Elephant
Calzaghe KO5 F16 Fighter
Calzaghe UD12 US Naval Carrier

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Nov 2005, 04:58

Wha Tantum?

Not a monster puncher but a bigger puncher than what most of Hopkins has fought.

Anyway Hopkins likes to stay in smaller weight classes and beat blown up welters for his legacy where he will be safe.

Wasn't this fight made according to Warren but Hopkins pulled and wanted another 3 mill?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Nov 2005, 05:32

Max Molyneux wrote:Wha Tantum?

Not a monster puncher but a bigger puncher than what most of Hopkins has fought.

Anyway Hopkins likes to stay in smaller weight classes and beat blown up welters for his legacy where he will be safe.

Wasn't this fight made according to Warren but Hopkins pulled and wanted another 3 mill?

Nothing is made according to Warren! ;)

And those fights with fighters coming up were the biggest money fights for Hopkins what do you expect him to do? Trinidad certainly looked like a middleweight when he hammered Joppy, nobody has done that to Joppy before or since. Why do you have to bash anyone who is mentioned in the same breath as Calzaghe? ;)

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Nov 2005, 06:28

Why do you bash me for supporting Calzaghe.

I was going off what Warren was saying on that British Boxing article when replied to Ian's article.

Plus most of you do the same saying Toney's a blown up middle but he looked the part for cruiser and Heavy when beating Jirov and Ruiz.

His legacy is built off two welterweights though.

Toney at Middle would beat him.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Nov 2005, 06:32

Max Molyneux wrote:
His legacy is built off two welterweights though.

.....and holding the title for 10 years, and 19 successful defences.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 Nov 2005, 06:36

Hopkins legacy is off the fact that he remained unbeaten for 11 years, and defended his titles during that time. Tito had just destroyed Cherifi and Joppy coming into his fight with Hopkins, and was in his prime.

The DLH fight has nothing to do with his legacy.

Toney could never have stayed at middle for long, he was a 210lb linebacker as a college football player, and he should probably have campaigned at Light Heavy where I think he would have been champ for a long time. Anyway, what has Toney got to do with this.

I think at his best Calzaghe may have given Bernard some problems, being the naturally bigger man, and quicker too, but Calzaghe's defence has never been watertight, and Hopkins is a real sniper.

Taylor was a lot bigger and quicker, and even at 40, he almost finished Taylor off in the last two rounds.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Nov 2005, 06:37

Needs more than that though. Middleweight division must of been crap without two welters and Winky showed how easy it was to beat him, but credit to Hop for stopping him.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Nov 2005, 06:43

Max Molyneux wrote:Needs more than that though. Middleweight division must of been crap without two welters and Winky showed how easy it was to beat him, but credit to Hop for stopping him.

More than that? He ruled the division for a decade and beat all comers. What more could he have done? For once a fighter who doesn't move through the weights and dominates his division over a number of years, has to be commended.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 Nov 2005, 06:44

Max Molyneux wrote:Needs more than that though. Middleweight division must of been crap without two welters and Winky showed how easy it was to beat him, but credit to Hop for stopping him.

Tito wasn't the same fighter when he fought Winky, that was obvious. He was a shadow of his former self.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Nov 2005, 06:52

True but even DLH beat him at Welter but got jobbed and most expected Trinadad to give Winky a competitive fight and even win but he had an easy time with Tito.

Hop said he wouldn't even fight Wright and would of rather Tito win so he could make another 15 mill, he knows Winky would beat him.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Nov 2005, 07:05

Lets be honest Hopkins v Winky would be one of the worst spectacles in living memory. I sincerely hope it never happens.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 17 Nov 2005, 07:06

Why?Could be quite a technical fight.

Hopkins V Toney would of ruled!

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 Nov 2005, 07:09

I don't think either would do much, Winky would only counter what Hopkins did which these days is very little.

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