Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards "foreign boxers"

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Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards "foreign boxers"

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Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?
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slapbangwhallop wrote:Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?


very good point mate
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I suppose it depends what the fee is actually incorporating. Is it an admin fee where the Board have to check that the Boxer is legit and ok to box thus having to charge a small levy for doing so?
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The Insider wrote:I suppose it depends what the fee is actually incorporating. Is it an admin fee where the Board have to check that the Boxer is legit and ok to box thus having to charge a small levy for doing so?
True I suppose. I think it’s about £100 per fighter. There isn’t really any admin involved, an authorisation letter from a fellow EBU sanctioning body is provided to prove all boxes are ticked so its just a deterant to bringing in a non BBBoC boxer – unless you believe reading a single page standard letter warrants a hndred nicker levy.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
The Insider wrote:I suppose it depends what the fee is actually incorporating. Is it an admin fee where the Board have to check that the Boxer is legit and ok to box thus having to charge a small levy for doing so?
True I suppose. I think it’s about £100 per fighter. There isn’t really any admin involved, an authorisation letter from a fellow EBU sanctioning body is provided to prove all boxes are ticked so its just a deterant to bringing in a non BBBoC boxer – unless you believe reading a single page standard letter warrants a hndred nicker levy.
I was at a show in Leeds am a lad had a Irish licence he was told he had to pay £50 or he couldn't box
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slapbangwhallop wrote:Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?
I wonder if part of the fee goes towards the ring side doctor / emergency services? If these fighters are not based in the UK then they are unlikely to have made any contribution towards National Insurance.

In all honesty I have no idea what happens if a foreign fighter needs medical treatment following a bout in the UK. Do they receive free medical health care? If not who covers the cost? I'd imagine it would be difficult for fighters to get medical insurance abroad, when you take into consideration what they do for a job.
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chad wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?
I wonder if part of the fee goes towards the ring side doctor / emergency services? If these fighters are not based in the UK then they are unlikely to have made any contribution towards National Insurance.

In all honesty I have no idea what happens if a foreign fighter needs medical treatment following a bout in the UK. Do they receive free medical health care? If not who covers the cost? I'd imagine it would be difficult for fighters to get medical insurance abroad, when you take into consideration what they do for a job.
I am specifically talking about EU boxers as opposed to boxers from outside the EU. With regards the point you raise, EU citizens are entitled to access the services of the NHS the exact same manner as British citizens. So they would be treated in hospital in the same way a British citizen although they may need to carry an E111 card or equivalent.

The point I am making is that I was under the impression that it is illegal to treat a citizen from the EU any different to a British citizen.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?
You are charged £200 to box abroad, by the BBBOC
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standing8 wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?
You are charged £200 to box abroad, by the BBBOC
Well that raises another issue, are they breaking the law asking for that if you are boxing “abroad” in another EU country?

Like has been said above, maybe the charge is for another reason but no one seems to know what that is!

I know the BUI don’t charge their boxers to fight abroad or charge a “Foreigh Boxers Fee” on those coming into the country.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
standing8 wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?
You are charged £200 to box abroad, by the BBBOC
Well that raises another issue, are they breaking the law asking for that if you are boxing “abroad” in another EU country?

Like has been said above, maybe the charge is for another reason but no one seems to know what that is!

I know the BUI don’t charge their boxers to fight abroad or charge a “Foreigh Boxers Fee” on those coming into the country.
How much do the BUI insure there fighter's for against brain bleed injuries???
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standing8 wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
standing8 wrote:You are charged £200 to box abroad, by the BBBOC
Well that raises another issue, are they breaking the law asking for that if you are boxing “abroad” in another EU country?

Like has been said above, maybe the charge is for another reason but no one seems to know what that is!

I know the BUI don’t charge their boxers to fight abroad or charge a “Foreigh Boxers Fee” on those coming into the country.
How much do the BUI insure there fighter's for against brain bleed injuries???
couldnt tell ya mate.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
standing8 wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:Are the BBBoC breaking the law with regards charging EU citizens not holding a BBBoC licence a "foreign boxers" fee?
You are charged £200 to box abroad, by the BBBOC
Well that raises another issue, are they breaking the law asking for that if you are boxing “abroad” in another EU country?

Like has been said above, maybe the charge is for another reason but no one seems to know what that is!

I know the BUI don’t charge their boxers to fight abroad or charge a “Foreigh Boxers Fee” on those coming into the country.
thats cause they charge daft amounts for timekeepers :OhYes:
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Alba wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
standing8 wrote: You are charged £200 to box abroad, by the BBBOC
Well that raises another issue, are they breaking the law asking for that if you are boxing “abroad” in another EU country?

Like has been said above, maybe the charge is for another reason but no one seems to know what that is!

I know the BUI don’t charge their boxers to fight abroad or charge a “Foreigh Boxers Fee” on those coming into the country.
thats cause they charge daft amounts for timekeepers :OhYes:
*STOP*PRESSING*MY*BUTTONS* :shame:


:lol:
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slapbangwhallop wrote: I am specifically talking about EU boxers as opposed to boxers from outside the EU. With regards the point you raise, EU citizens are entitled to access the services of the NHS the exact same manner as British citizens. So they would be treated in hospital in the same way a British citizen although they may need to carry an E111 card or equivalent.
That's incorrect EEC countries have bilateral agreements where the individual isn't charged but the host country can charge the patients country a fee for their treatment.
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