fights off apparently

[bigred83]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/boxin ... 6744083285

im not the biggest mundine fan, but i was curious about this one.
if he managed a win, and went on to fight another big name, then good on him.
if he lost, then hopefully retire.
so interesting fight imo.

but it appears that his years of fighting weak opponents have come back to bite him in the bum.
the media here made out initially that it was another old guy that was finished. and after years of much the same from anthony, i guess people have started voting with their feet. as of last night there was apparently only 1500 tickets sold. they were budgeting for 9000, and 80000 pay per view sales to cover the purse of the fighters.

bit of a shame for aussie boxing overall really. and a real shame for the fighters scheduled to fight(if it all gets canned), as well as the fans that have travelled to sydney for the fight.

[ra2006]

I am not one to swear on a forum, but holy fornicate!!!

This is just really really bad, not for the Mundine camp, but for every person who has already brought the PPV, for the poor souls who have flown in and paid for hotels in Sydney, and for Australian boxing as a whole.

Initially, GBP appear to think that someone is'nt playing with a straight bat here! Interesting to see what shakes out in the next few hours. I think a game of lawyerball is on it's way!

And what the hell is going to happen with the card now?

[amwsnw]

This is what I posted when I learnt Wharton was promoting:
"Say no more...I would be very surprised if this comes off without any hiccups, prior to or after the bout!"
Unless shane is proven to be an absolute arsehole in all this, which I doubt, this is a black eye for Australian boxing in its entirety.

[Beltane]

One feels sorry for the undercard's fighters, who have been led up the garden path.

Rumour has it that the card has been postponed for 6 weeks with a new promoter, the great Khoder stepping up. Time will tell!

[dan h]

Low tickets sales and not very good early PPV buys meant the money just wasnt go to be there for Mosley by the sounds of it.

Good to see the aussie public are losing interest in mundive, albeit it is ironic that they lose interest now that he is actually about to fight an interesting fight.

[Weirdyman]

Slightly off topic, but why was the fight scheduled for a Wednesday anyway?

[ra2006]

Slightly off topic, but why was the fight scheduled for a Wednesday anyway?

Mate, I have no idea. Aussies seem to like to have their big fights on a Wednesday night. No one here can actually give me a sound explaination to why they do it. The rest of the world (eg UK and EU/North America) have theirs on a Saturday night.

Since I have been here, in the last 7 years it just baffles me to why they do this! By the way someone will say the usually Rugby League/Aussie rules will clash with it on a weekend, but not true, because when those games finish at 9.30, usually the main event on any card starts at 10.00.

So in conclusion don't ask! Someone will attempt to answer you but as you are a Brit it will make no sense in your mind!! It is still alien to me after 7 years!

[Weirdyman]

Thanks for clearing that up (sort of). It's odd considering you'd think they want to maybe sell to foreign TV and maximise that.

[bigred83]

Slightly off topic, but why was the fight scheduled for a Wednesday anyway?

Mate, I have no idea. Aussies seem to like to have their big fights on a Wednesday night. No one here can actually give me a sound explaination to why they do it. The rest of the world (eg UK and EU/North America) have theirs on a Saturday night.

Since I have been here, in the last 7 years it just baffles me to why they do this! By the way someone will say the usually Rugby League/Aussie rules will clash with it on a weekend, but not true, because when those games finish at 9.30, usually the main event on any card starts at 10.00.

So in conclusion don't ask! Someone will attempt to answer you but as you are a Brit it will make no sense in your mind!! It is still alien to me after 7 years!

this is about the only thing i have heard as why they do it on a wednesday night.
which makes no sense, because there are other options, like late saturday night after footy(as already mentioned), or how about lunch time sunday before the footy starts? which if a fight is on a sunday lunch time, it can be broadcast into the us sat night. i know it will probably never be huge, but it at least gives guys an opportunity to be seen over there.

[JediKnight]

Slightly off topic, but why was the fight scheduled for a Wednesday anyway?

Mate, I have no idea. Aussies seem to like to have their big fights on a Wednesday night. No one here can actually give me a sound explaination to why they do it. The rest of the world (eg UK and EU/North America) have theirs on a Saturday night.

Since I have been here, in the last 7 years it just baffles me to why they do this! By the way someone will say the usually Rugby League/Aussie rules will clash with it on a weekend, but not true, because when those games finish at 9.30, usually the main event on any card starts at 10.00.

So in conclusion don't ask! Someone will attempt to answer you but as you are a Brit it will make no sense in your mind!! It is still alien to me after 7 years!

I'm also a fellow Brit and this confused the hell out of me when I first arrived but the aussie rules/NRL spin does kind of make sense. Most the stadiums for these sports hold large numbers and as you say main events are at 10pm its a big ask to expect someone to rock up for 1 fight after paying $100 + sure they can pay $50 to watch it on the TV when they get home but that won't generate anywhere near the cash to bring big names down here.
The grass roots fights are all on the weekends and at much smaller venues. I guess we should be thankful we don't have stay awake all night to watch Vegas/UK fights now we can sit on a lilo sipping a beer instead

[Zhuge]

Well, I'm disappointed the fight was off. It could very well have been an interesting one despite the fact that Shane is past his prime. What's the typical buy rate on Mundine's PPV fights? I'm curious -- assuming he were to beat Mosley and a Mayweather fight were actually a possibility, what sort of interest would that really generate? I know Floyd can go over to London and fight a weak opponent (like Khan) and make a killing as the British fans will show up and tune in. What would happen in Australia?

[JediKnight]

Well, I'm disappointed the fight was off. It could very well have been an interesting one despite the fact that Shane is past his prime. What's the typical buy rate on Mundine's PPV fights? I'm curious -- assuming he were to beat Mosley and a Mayweather fight were actually a possibility, what sort of interest would that really generate? I know Floyd can go over to London and fight a weak opponent (like Khan) and make a killing as the British fans will show up and tune in. What would happen in Australia?

I doubt khan Mayweather will happen in London due to tax reasons. Mundine Mayweather is less likely in my opinion as his not a big enough name in the US. I think Mayweather would win by KO though so if they can inflate the Mundine name a little he could be in line for a good retirement package as Mayweathers haters and fan want to see a KO.

[buster007]

what r u guys on? lol

[J.P]

Mundine no longer has the pulling power he once had and it seems Australia is over mundane I feel bad for the boys on the undercard ,

[Beltane]

This Paul Kent article sums up the imbroglio, including the fiscal fiasco and Mundine's failed attempt to convert his "heel' personna into a somewhat likeable lad for the card:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6744822508

[amwsnw]

Paul kents interview on Foxpsorts summed it up.

[HomicideHenry]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/boxin ... 6744083285

im not the biggest mundine fan, but i was curious about this one.
if he managed a win, and went on to fight another big name, then good on him.
if he lost, then hopefully retire.
so interesting fight imo.

but it appears that his years of fighting weak opponents have come back to bite him in the bum.
the media here made out initially that it was another old guy that was finished. and after years of much the same from anthony, i guess people have started voting with their feet. as of last night there was apparently only 1500 tickets sold. they were budgeting for 9000, and 80000 pay per view sales to cover the purse of the fighters.

bit of a shame for aussie boxing overall really. and a real shame for the fighters scheduled to fight(if it all gets canned), as well as the fans that have travelled to sydney for the fight.

This is a fight I actually would have favored Mundine to win. It's a shame, and I can't believe after Mosley got $300,000 up front and didn't get the rest on the alotted time expected he took the $300,000 and went back on home rather than be a fighter and suck it up.

[thunderfromdownunder]

Just a circus

[Tinnie]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/boxin ... 6744083285

im not the biggest mundine fan, but i was curious about this one.
if he managed a win, and went on to fight another big name, then good on him.
if he lost, then hopefully retire.
so interesting fight imo.

but it appears that his years of fighting weak opponents have come back to bite him in the bum.
the media here made out initially that it was another old guy that was finished. and after years of much the same from anthony, i guess people have started voting with their feet. as of last night there was apparently only 1500 tickets sold. they were budgeting for 9000, and 80000 pay per view sales to cover the purse of the fighters.

bit of a shame for aussie boxing overall really. and a real shame for the fighters scheduled to fight(if it all gets canned), as well as the fans that have travelled to sydney for the fight.

This is a fight I actually would have favored Mundine to win. It's a shame, and I can't believe after Mosley got $300,000 up front and didn't get the rest on the alotted time expected he took the $300,000 and went back on home rather than be a fighter and suck it up.

Less than 1/3 of his paycheck and no real guarantee he'd get any more, why wouldnt he walk, im sure Shane would have preferred the $1mil and the fight. I think he did the right thing listening to the people saying he was going to get stiffed over here.

[AntonS]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/boxin ... 6744083285

im not the biggest mundine fan, but i was curious about this one.
if he managed a win, and went on to fight another big name, then good on him.
if he lost, then hopefully retire.
so interesting fight imo.

but it appears that his years of fighting weak opponents have come back to bite him in the bum.
the media here made out initially that it was another old guy that was finished. and after years of much the same from anthony, i guess people have started voting with their feet. as of last night there was apparently only 1500 tickets sold. they were budgeting for 9000, and 80000 pay per view sales to cover the purse of the fighters.

bit of a shame for aussie boxing overall really. and a real shame for the fighters scheduled to fight(if it all gets canned), as well as the fans that have travelled to sydney for the fight.

This is a fight I actually would have favored Mundine to win. It's a shame, and I can't believe after Mosley got $300,000 up front and didn't get the rest on the alotted time expected he took the $300,000 and went back on home rather than be a fighter and suck it up.

Less than 1/3 of his paycheck and no real guarantee he'd get any more, why wouldnt he walk, im sure Shane would have preferred the $1mil and the fight. I think he did the right thing listening to the people saying he was going to get stiffed over here.

Because Ref & Judges were Aborigine or something

[p4p1]

Could of been a mistranslation about what Mundines people tried to doin the Geale fight.

[AntonS]

Could of been a mistranslation about what Mundines people tried to doin the Geale fight.

Nevertheless still a grubby spit. As far as I know, the only official with Aboriginal blood in any of them was ref Brad Vocale & he's 50% Italian.
He, judges & local control board had absolutely nothing to do what eventuated...so why sink his boot into them......not to mention overall Oz industry??

[AntonS]

Did ever occur to anyone, given his last minute departure, there was more to it than purse problem?
e.g. Medical.... and I ain't suggesting serology (Hep B, C, Aids/HIV)

Maybe like him...I been hearing things?

[Stinger]

Did ever occur to anyone, given his last minute departure, there was more to it than purse problem?
e.g. Medical.... and I ain't suggesting serology (Hep B, C, Aids/HIV)

Maybe like him...I been hearing things?

Come on, lets not go down the path of conspiricy. What has happened here is plain to see.
A shit promoter, doing a shit job. No more to see here.

[AntonS]

Just throwing a bit of crap his way