The Bronx Bull Versus B Hop
The Bronx Bull Versus B Hop
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Re: The Bronx Bull Versus B Hop
Neither man gets KO'd. I like LaMotta's industry. He has an underrated defence. Be very close though.
Re: The Bronx Bull Versus B Hop
I gotta go with Hopkins to win a decision.
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Re: The Bronx Bull Versus B Hop
Much as I love Hopkins and say that of all the fighters around today he reminds me most of Archie Moore, for his great staying power and skills--- however, is it just me or does it seem Hopkins didn't land the serious challenges until real late in his career? Most the fights he has had at middleweight and catchweight 175 pound fights have been against rather ordinary fighters--- and what few greats he has fought, like Jones, he lost to in his prime.
LaMotta, at one point in history, was the most avoided middleweight in the world. Outside of Charley Burley, there wasn't really a middleweight that LaMotta didnt face, and not just once but multiple times. He wasn't given a title shot for years, which is odd for a white guy as that was usually something that only happened to black guys back then. Which goes to show you what kind of special fighter LaMotta really was. So great was he, that he was forced into fighting the great Sugar Ray Robinson six times, and on one occasion fought eachother twice in a span of a few weeks. Don't let the stats fool you, that Robinson lost only once to LaMotta out of the six times--- each fight was a bitter struggle and seemed like a life and death confrontation--- besides there are a few fights in that mix where alot of people will tell you it should of went the other way on the score cards.
Hopkins, great boxer that he is, I dont think has the stuff to scare LaMotta let alone confuse him and set up traps. LaMotta didnt care about traps--- he just came straight at you, and was deceivingly defensive--- he rode punches and seldom ever got hurt. And LaMotta, unlike Hopkins, could punch. After all, he went five brutal rounds with future heavyweight destroyer Bob Satterfield and knocked him out. Had LaMotta existed today, he may very well of been the greatest super middleweight in history--- as most of LaMotta's bouts were fought (at the then weight of) light heavyweight. Only for the truly important fights, was he dried to the bone and made 160.
However, I dont care if the weight is 160, 168, or 175, I favor The Bronx Bull over Hopkins.
LaMotta, at one point in history, was the most avoided middleweight in the world. Outside of Charley Burley, there wasn't really a middleweight that LaMotta didnt face, and not just once but multiple times. He wasn't given a title shot for years, which is odd for a white guy as that was usually something that only happened to black guys back then. Which goes to show you what kind of special fighter LaMotta really was. So great was he, that he was forced into fighting the great Sugar Ray Robinson six times, and on one occasion fought eachother twice in a span of a few weeks. Don't let the stats fool you, that Robinson lost only once to LaMotta out of the six times--- each fight was a bitter struggle and seemed like a life and death confrontation--- besides there are a few fights in that mix where alot of people will tell you it should of went the other way on the score cards.
Hopkins, great boxer that he is, I dont think has the stuff to scare LaMotta let alone confuse him and set up traps. LaMotta didnt care about traps--- he just came straight at you, and was deceivingly defensive--- he rode punches and seldom ever got hurt. And LaMotta, unlike Hopkins, could punch. After all, he went five brutal rounds with future heavyweight destroyer Bob Satterfield and knocked him out. Had LaMotta existed today, he may very well of been the greatest super middleweight in history--- as most of LaMotta's bouts were fought (at the then weight of) light heavyweight. Only for the truly important fights, was he dried to the bone and made 160.
However, I dont care if the weight is 160, 168, or 175, I favor The Bronx Bull over Hopkins.