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Does anyone know what the deal is with the Aiba international hand wraps? It seems the fighters are only allowed to.use bare minimum hand wraps and no gauze or tape. I'm not really experienced in hand wrapping but isn't this just gonna lead to hand problems for the young boxers? In tournaments held in Usa fighters are allowed much more protection for hands, how about other countries? Do Coaches consider not sending fighters to international tournaments because of possible hand issues?
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scallum wrote:Does anyone know what the deal is with the Aiba international hand wraps? It seems the fighters are only allowed to.use bare minimum hand wraps and no gauze or tape. I'm not really experienced in hand wrapping but isn't this just gonna lead to hand problems for the young boxers? In tournaments held in Usa fighters are allowed much more protection for hands, how about other countries? Do Coaches consider not sending fighters to international tournaments because of possible hand issues?
AIBA has increased the length from what it was. Here are the current rules:
23.2. Specifications
23.2.1. Bandages must not be longer than 4.5m (14.76 feet), and not shorter than 2.5m (8.2 feet). Bandages must be 5.7cm (2 1⁄4 inches) wide.
23.2.2. Bandages must be made of stretchy cotton material with a Velcro closure.

That's plenty long especially if you wrap what needs to be wrapped like the metacarpals...the bones of the hand and the wrist. Don't waist wrap on going between the fingers. It's not needed. The gloves have most of the padding on the knuckles so you don't need to build up an extra pad on the knuckles. Just protect the hand and wrist. To answer your question of do coaches prevent their boxers from going to an international tournament to prevent hand injuries.......I never heard of it and would be surprised that any coach would do such a thing unless the boxer already had an injury when ask to go somewhere. Most coaches would be very excited to have their boxer chosen to participate in an international tournament.
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JMac wrote:
scallum wrote:Does anyone know what the deal is with the Aiba international hand wraps? It seems the fighters are only allowed to.use bare minimum hand wraps and no gauze or tape. I'm not really experienced in hand wrapping but isn't this just gonna lead to hand problems for the young boxers? In tournaments held in Usa fighters are allowed much more protection for hands, how about other countries? Do Coaches consider not sending fighters to international tournaments because of possible hand issues?
AIBA has increased the length from what it was. Here are the current rules:
23.2. Specifications
23.2.1. Bandages must not be longer than 4.5m (14.76 feet), and not shorter than 2.5m (8.2 feet). Bandages must be 5.7cm (2 1⁄4 inches) wide.
23.2.2. Bandages must be made of stretchy cotton material with a Velcro closure.

That's plenty long especially if you wrap what needs to be wrapped like the metacarpals...the bones of the hand and the wrist. Don't waist wrap on going between the fingers. It's not needed. The gloves have most of the padding on the knuckles so you don't need to build up an extra pad on the knuckles. Just protect the hand and wrist. To answer your question of do coaches prevent their boxers from going to an international tournament to prevent hand injuries.......I never heard of it and would be surprised that any coach would do such a thing unless the boxer already had an injury when ask to go somewhere. Most coaches would be very excited to have their boxer chosen to participate in an international tournament.
Thanks for the advice much appreciate it. Do you know when they started to allow longer wraps?
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scallum wrote:
JMac wrote:
scallum wrote:Does anyone know what the deal is with the Aiba international hand wraps? It seems the fighters are only allowed to.use bare minimum hand wraps and no gauze or tape. I'm not really experienced in hand wrapping but isn't this just gonna lead to hand problems for the young boxers? In tournaments held in Usa fighters are allowed much more protection for hands, how about other countries? Do Coaches consider not sending fighters to international tournaments because of possible hand issues?
AIBA has increased the length from what it was. Here are the current rules:
23.2. Specifications
23.2.1. Bandages must not be longer than 4.5m (14.76 feet), and not shorter than 2.5m (8.2 feet). Bandages must be 5.7cm (2 1⁄4 inches) wide.
23.2.2. Bandages must be made of stretchy cotton material with a Velcro closure.

That's plenty long especially if you wrap what needs to be wrapped like the metacarpals...the bones of the hand and the wrist. Don't waist wrap on going between the fingers. It's not needed. The gloves have most of the padding on the knuckles so you don't need to build up an extra pad on the knuckles. Just protect the hand and wrist. To answer your question of do coaches prevent their boxers from going to an international tournament to prevent hand injuries.......I never heard of it and would be surprised that any coach would do such a thing unless the boxer already had an injury when ask to go somewhere. Most coaches would be very excited to have their boxer chosen to participate in an international tournament.
Thanks for the advice much appreciate it. Do you know when they started to allow longer wraps?
Not sure but probably when AIBA started the WSB.
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Just recently at Jr Worlds the fighters were made to use very minimum hand wraps, this was August 2013. U mean the wraps were even smaller than this before? I don't get why Aiba doesnt allow more protection for fighter hands like is allowed in Usa homeland bouts?
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USA boxing has to follow AIBA rules and regulations so this means that most of LBC's don't know all the rules and regulations and are stuck in between old and new rules as i have around local shows. Most are totally confused as i have seen or rules are changing to fast from one day to the next and word is getting to each LBC in time. The problem i am still seeing is the scoring i am still seeing scoring of 10-8 on close fights and 10-8 that look like blow outs. So results are 30-24 for both cases and when i see one fighter win a round he isn't getting credit seems wrong especially when they announce the score and the kid that fought his heart out gets same score as the kid that didn't have the talent to get better than 24?
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scallum wrote:Just recently at Jr Worlds the fighters were made to use very minimum hand wraps, this was August 2013. U mean the wraps were even smaller than this before? I don't get why Aiba doesnt allow more protection for fighter hands like is allowed in Usa homeland bouts?
The new rules went into effect Aug 23rd 2013 so maybe at the Jr worlds they were still on the old rules still. The wraps were much shorter than the current rule. 4.5 meters or 14.76 feet is about 177 inches. Most boxers wear hand wraps that are 180 inches so it's about the same as they wear everyday.
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JMac wrote:
scallum wrote:Just recently at Jr Worlds the fighters were made to use very minimum hand wraps, this was August 2013. U mean the wraps were even smaller than this before? I don't get why Aiba doesnt allow more protection for fighter hands like is allowed in Usa homeland bouts?
The new rules went into effect Aug 23rd 2013 so maybe at the Jr worlds they were still on the old rules still. The wraps were much shorter than the current rule. 4.5 meters or 14.76 feet is about 177 inches. Most boxers wear hand wraps that are 180 inches so it's about the same as they wear everyday.
Ok very good to hear New rules went into effect just recently.
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ABC BOXING wrote:USA boxing has to follow AIBA rules and regulations so this means that most of LBC's don't know all the rules and regulations and are stuck in between old and new rules as i have around local shows. Most are totally confused as i have seen or rules are changing to fast from one day to the next and word is getting to each LBC in time. The problem i am still seeing is the scoring i am still seeing scoring of 10-8 on close fights and 10-8 that look like blow outs. So results are 30-24 for both cases and when i see one fighter win a round he isn't getting credit seems wrong especially when they announce the score and the kid that fought his heart out gets same score as the kid that didn't have the talent to get better than 24?
I just don't understand the confusion with scoring. It should be much easier using the by the rounds method but I have been seeing sum horrible decisions. It's just unexplainable, don't know if its favoritism, incompetence or just confusion. They should just go back to old scoring system, to many plain robbery with new system. Kids are gonna have to go into fights more concerned about judging than actually fighting
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Scallum;
I think the scoring isn't fair now or the old way. Because of them (JUDGES) not applying it in a fair manner, responsible manner, not favoring teams manner, and not applying it so they can be in good standings with local LBC members. This is and has been the problem from local shows to World shows.
The ten point system could be good if they (JUDGES) just be plain ass fair or nutural to each corner. 2nd adjust scoring to make knockdowns count as in the pros but don't count standing 8 counts as a knock down, 3rd not mix old time scoring with new scoring such as one judge told me that this one corner won because he threw 3 consecitive punches to score, but i saw that fight and yes he threw more punches but out of each combination he would land one scoring punch the rest were hitting gloves or air contact punches. 4th score entire body punches which there are still not scoring them. Last Olympics you could see that fighters hitting the body never made the scoring change on the TV screen that was a shame. 5th deduct points for not fighting in last round as they are keeping away from action only because they know they are winning on points. Force them to fight.
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Actually the hand wraps are being looked at, after the excessive number of hand injuries at the World Championships in Kazakhstan. The problem before was a hand wrapping demonstration done for the rules committee where the hand was over wrapped and didn't fit into the international gloves. Gauze and tape is allowed at all USA Boxing events including national championships. Jmac I agree, the longer wraps do provide adequate protection, if used properly, we actually shared some techniques with the trainers from Great Britten, who were all very proficient in how they wrapped using Valpeau. I think the removal of the headgear will necessitate moving to gauze and tape, working in WSB most of the countries (Ukraine did a nice job) but the majority of the teams have no knowledge of how to wrap hands properly.
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