Haye v Fury Off

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Re: Haye v Fury Off

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Finn wrote:
mrpedigree wrote:Don't care what you say , most of us knew this was coming ...Haye knew what time it was .
only an idiot would think haye was scared to step in the ring with fury, fury had about a 20% chance of winning that fight. You guys need to face facts fury has not beaten a top contender yet and has struggled with mediocre ones. I hope im wrong but i think fury's going to be heading down the same path as Price shortly. The only difference is that he has heart.
Only an idiot can't do simple math ,Work the math out ,whats the chances of getting an injury twice with Hayes track record and it being legit ??
on top of that we are being told by people in the know that knew the score and even said when that cut happened that he will try and get out of this fight yet again ...still not added it up yet ?

I don't think Haye thought much of your 20% chance that fury was a push over do you !!! ;;-)
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Good luck to him to get a shot after being messed about whether he can win a belt is another story.
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lillywhite14 wrote:
Horse wrote:Fury would have beat him with ease and made him look awful.
You are right, if Haye would have fought with the shoulder injury and been a shell of himself, he would have looked awful.

Haye could well be finished now. I suspect he has enough dough and interests to avoid risking his health by fighting when he is suffering with serious injury etc
Shame, but that's how it goes sometimes.

A fully fit Haye would decimate Fury, that's barely up for debate.

Its a shame for all involved, mostly for those who have shelled out their hard earned on two cancellations now. I feel for you chaps.

Fury should be able to get something done sharpish and get a fight lined up. Been training for a while now, will be in decent shape etc
Problem is, he might have to face a heavyweight now, which could mean him losing and not getting £5m for his troubles! :wink:

:TU:

Have to agree with the fully fit bit

But would say inactivity has something to do with it too.
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lillywhite14 wrote:A fully fit Haye would decimate Fury, that's barely up for debate.
A "fully fit" Haye is one of the most overrated fighters in boxing. Fury would beat a fully fit Haye.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:I can see a reply saying I salute you sir!
Stop it now, you've already made a fool of yourself don't make it any worse.

Mate ive been here since 2007 I will out last you. You will be long gone after tonights spin work
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Horse wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:A fully fit Haye would decimate Fury, that's barely up for debate.
A "fully fit" Haye is one of the most overrated fighters in boxing. Fury would beat a fully fit Haye.
.

I like Fury, I like Haye. Different levels. It will be all be obvious when Tyson steps in with a proper heavyweight. I think Arreola for instance, would stop Tyson.

I'm just looking forward to Tyson getting back in the ring now.
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Horse wrote:
Finn wrote:only an idiot would think haye was scared to step in the ring with fury, fury had about a 20% chance of winning that fight. You guys need to face facts fury has not beaten a top contender yet and has struggled with mediocre ones. I hope im wrong but i think fury's going to be heading down the same path as Price shortly. The only difference is that he has heart.
Haye was scared to step in the ring with Fury.

Haye realised Fury was the real deal in the lead up to their fight and he knew he was likely to be destroyed by him.
I would buy that if you can demonstrate one example of something fury has done that would trouble a fighter like haye. He's been put on his arse by light hitters, he lost to McDermott, he was hurt a few times by a fat out of shape unmotivated chisora who haye fought in shape and annihilated, he clearly clucked it and vacated a belt to avoid price, fury hasnt proved he's the best in Britain or Europe never mind world class. Why would haye fight chisora and duck fury when the he stood to be humiliated if he lost to chisora and make more money against fury?
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Oh great, now Horse doesn't get to look silly in February :x
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On the plus side his cut has healed up nicely.

Vitali fight, summer 2014 anyone?
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
Horse wrote:Haye realised Fury was the real deal in the lead up to their fight and he knew he was likely to be destroyed by him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb7pR_-7W3w

:o

If this fight had come off in the first place (cant remember the date now) yes thats how it would have gone. I cannot disagree with you. I would have said Haye all the way inside 3. But when the first injury and inactivity and a fight for Feb I think Haye did not fancy the job, there was talk he was slow on the pads. Fury is young and bigger and will proberly only get stronger. Haye has seen or heard something and thought about it.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Mate ive been here since 2007 I will out last you. You will be long gone after tonights spin work
"23 years with the NHS" on here "since 2007" remarkable I'm hugely impressed, truly I'm awed.







Shame you're a deluded, arrogant moron though.

Remarkable ive had a job for 23 years that is true. no need to be impressed by the time ive been here there are lots of members here longer than myself. Deluded, maybe I still think my wife has a bleep bleep
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dbf wrote:On the plus side his cut has healed up nicely.

Vitali fight, summer 2014 anyone?
Vacant title v Stiverne.
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Finn wrote:I would buy that if you can demonstrate one example of something fury has done that would trouble a fighter like haye. He's been put on his arse by light hitters, he lost to McDermott, he was hurt a few times by a fat out of shape unmotivated chisora who haye fought in shape and annihilated, he clearly clucked it and vacated a belt to avoid price, fury hasnt proved he's the best in Britain or Europe never mind world class.
Fury beat Chisora and Cunningham fairly easily and was going to be much better against Haye.
Finn wrote:Why would haye fight chisora and duck fury when the he stood to be humiliated if he lost to chisora and make more money against fury?
Because it was an easier fight.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:Oh great, now Horse doesn't get to look silly in February :x
More like I don't get to gloat.
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Haye would never ever be scared of facing fury, there are some ridiculous comments on this thread. It is very unlikely haye would lose to fury - the bookies odds could tell you that.

He was sparring wilder in the build up ffs who is a much more daunting prospect than fury who would not really be considered a puncher.

I appreciate people are frustrated with haye but let's not start being unrealistic and making out haye was worried about fury.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Deluded, maybe I still think my wife has a pussy tight as Miley Cyrus
I really don't see why your have to evoke your wife's genitalia.

What an unpleasant man you are.

My wife loves her bleep
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mrpedigree wrote: Only an idiot can't do simple math ,Work the math out ,whats the chances of getting an injury twice with Hayes track record and it being legit ??
on top of that we are being told by people in the know that knew the score and even said when that cut happened that he will try and get out of this fight yet again ...still not added it up yet ?

I don't think Haye thought much of your 20% chance that fury was a push over do you !!! ;;-)
Look mate i appreciate you trying to blindly back your man, but ill be proved right when fury steps in the ring with a genuine contender. I'm a fury fan but reality is reality, he's not that good. He has heart, he's entertaining, likes a fight, and has size as an ally but he's technically not that great, his defense is poor, he hasnt got great power, his chins not good at all, and he hasnt really faced a proper challange. Fury doesnt even believe his own talk, he quite blatantly shit his pants over fighting price as did his whole camp.

Make no mistake about it i would love to be proved wrong, i genuinely like fury, but its not going to happen, i honestly believe chisora would beat him in a rematch and i think that rematch will be coming soon.

If haye was ducking fury he would have just stuck with the cut eye excuse and then conveniently found another opponent, not arranged an alternate date then faked a 5 hour shoulder surgery. The thought is absurd.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
Naandrew wrote:Gutted for Tyson Fury 12 weeks training camp for nothing, misses out on £5million, not fight in 7 months and gave up a final eiliminator.
I'm sure Haye's not too happy either, at least Fury will be able to fight again, but it looks like Haye's career is over.

And Fury would have been battered in the 'Final Eliminator' for a fraction of the money, so that's no great loss to him.
In fairness I always fancied Pulev over Fury.
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As the Fury camp suspected this hopefully they have another fight lined up Fury needs to fight a couple of top ten fighters before he goes near Wlad if only to make a few quid before he gets beaten.
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MR T wrote:Haye would never ever be scared of facing fury, there are some ridiculous comments on this thread. It is very unlikely haye would lose to fury - the bookies odds could tell you that.
3/1 or so.
MR T wrote:He was sparring wilder in the build up ffs who is a much more daunting prospect than fury who would not really be considered a puncher.
Fury is better than Wilder.
MR T wrote:I appreciate people are frustrated with haye but let's not start being unrealistic and making out haye was worried about fury.
Fury is better than Valuev and Chisora. Haye realised that and got scared.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:So does this mean that Vitali was faking his 'injuries' (and his knee and back surgery) when he pulled out of his fight with Rahman FIVE times (eventually announcing his retirement) ?

INCREDIBLE it all makes sense now :doh:

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Re: Haye v Fury Off

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3 pages of utter s**t. If the man has a shoulder injury and has to have surgery what the f**k is he supposed to do?

Its obviously frustrating, especially for those that bought tickets, but there is not a lot that can be done in these situations. It happens all the time in boxing. The conspiracy theorists and people accusing him of ducking Tyson Fury of all people are talking nonsense.

Its not a great disappointment to me, because Haye is basically semi retired anyway, so what was he gonna do for the heavyweight division?

He would have likely beaten Fury and then pissed off into the sunset. That does no good for the sport. Haye should have stuck to his word originally. Fighters who fight once in a blue moon are a waste of time.

Fury should get on with his career now. Fight someone who still has aspirations other than just picking up another paycheck.
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Finn wrote:Look mate i appreciate you trying to blindly back your man, but ill be proved right when fury steps in the ring with a genuine contender. I'm a fury fan but reality is reality, he's not that good. He has heart, he's entertaining, likes a fight, and has size as an ally but he's technically not that great, his defense is poor, he hasnt got great power, his chins not good at all, and he hasnt really faced a proper challange. Fury doesnt even believe his own talk, he quite blatantly poo his pants over fighting price as did his whole camp.

Make no mistake about it i would love to be proved wrong, i genuinely like fury, but its not going to happen, i honestly believe chisora would beat him in a rematch and i think that rematch will be coming soon.
You are the worst Fury fan in the world.
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Horse wrote:
Finn wrote:I would buy that if you can demonstrate one example of something fury has done that would trouble a fighter like haye. He's been put on his arse by light hitters, he lost to McDermott, he was hurt a few times by a fat out of shape unmotivated chisora who haye fought in shape and annihilated, he clearly clucked it and vacated a belt to avoid price, fury hasnt proved he's the best in Britain or Europe never mind world class.
Fury beat Chisora and Cunningham fairly easily and was going to be much better against Haye.
Finn wrote:Why would haye fight chisora and duck fury when the he stood to be humiliated if he lost to chisora and make more money against fury?
Because it was an easier fight.
Horse you just seem to have some mad love for fury which is making you view everything through rose tinted glassed, fury did not beat chisora easily, he outpointed him comfortably because chisora was so out of shape he could only throw punches in spurts so lost the rounds, but when he did throw he had fury hanging on at numerous occasions, there were point he was holding onto the ropes and leaning out of the ring to stop chisora hitting him whilst clearly hurt. Fury was also outboxed by cunningham (the poor mans david haye) and was put on his arse in the second round he then resorted to leaning, mauling and forearms to wear cunningham out.

In comparison haye destroyed chisora.
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Horse wrote:
MR T wrote:Haye would never ever be scared of facing fury, there are some ridiculous comments on this thread. It is very unlikely haye would lose to fury - the bookies odds could tell you that.
3/1 or so.
MR T wrote:He was sparring wilder in the build up ffs who is a much more daunting prospect than fury who would not really be considered a puncher.
Fury is better than Wilder.
MR T wrote:I appreciate people are frustrated with haye but let's not start being unrealistic and making out haye was worried about fury.
Fury is better than Valuev and Chisora. Haye realised that and got scared.
Id argue that fury is not better than valuev or wilder and would struggle if not lose a rematch against an inshape chisora.
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