Haye v Fury Off

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Horse wrote:
Finn wrote:Look mate i appreciate you trying to blindly back your man, but ill be proved right when fury steps in the ring with a genuine contender. I'm a fury fan but reality is reality, he's not that good. He has heart, he's entertaining, likes a fight, and has size as an ally but he's technically not that great, his defense is poor, he hasnt got great power, his chins not good at all, and he hasnt really faced a proper challange. Fury doesnt even believe his own talk, he quite blatantly poo his pants over fighting price as did his whole camp.

Make no mistake about it i would love to be proved wrong, i genuinely like fury, but its not going to happen, i honestly believe chisora would beat him in a rematch and i think that rematch will be coming soon.
You are the worst Fury fan in the world.
You can be a fan without being completely ignorant to their capabilities im a derek chisora fan too but i knew he was going to get blown out by haye. Im an amir khan fan but i know he cant beat mayweather and i know why.
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Finn wrote:Horse you just seem to have some mad love for fury which is making you view everything through rose tinted glassed, fury did not beat chisora easily, he outpointed him comfortably because chisora was so out of shape he could only throw punches in spurts so lost the rounds, but when he did throw he had fury hanging on at numerous occasions, there were point he was holding onto the ropes and leaning out of the ring to stop chisora hitting him whilst clearly hurt. Fury was also outboxed by cunningham (the poor mans david haye) and was put on his arse in the second round he then resorted to leaning, mauling and forearms to wear cunningham out.

In comparison haye destroyed chisora.
Fury lost 2 rounds against Cunningham, he was not getting outboxed.
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Tomasino wrote:He should have called it a day when he had that savage toe injury.
:OhYes: :shame: Oh Tom, you shouldn't have but I'm glad you did
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I made that error and lost my money and upteen calls and letters to Travelodge and insurance companies to get my money back which did not happen, now another £25. It all adds up. My loss could have been a night out on one of Bulls cards at Doncaster Dome supporting some kids who dont have millions and supporting the Dome by buying food and drinks.
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Finn wrote:You can be a fan without being completely ignorant to their capabilities im a derek chisora fan too but i knew he was going to get blown out by haye. Im an amir khan fan but i know he cant beat mayweather and i know why.
You seem to rate him less than the average person and talk down his achievements and abilities. You're a strange fan.
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All smells a bit dodgy to me, I've been a huge Haye fan over the years but even I'm starting to question whether his heart is really in this anymore. The foot, the cut, the hand (Charr) and now the shoulder.

The key question here is did he need this op before or after the fight, personally the fact it's around the time camp would be due to begin makes it stink.

Really glad I didn't invest in tickets for this fight.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:But he suffered a VERY heavy knockdown against a non puncher !
It wasn't a heavy knockdown, Fury was fine.
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palooka wrote:
Tomasino wrote:He should have called it a day when he had that savage toe injury.
:OhYes: :shame: Oh Tom, you shouldn't have but I'm glad you did
I find it ironic how he criticises me for saying Burns might of told a white lie but it's ok to do the same kind of thing with Haye.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
Horse wrote:Fury lost 2 rounds against Cunningham, he was not getting outboxed.
But he suffered a VERY heavy knockdown against a non puncher !

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columbo wrote:
palooka wrote:
Tomasino wrote:He should have called it a day when he had that savage toe injury.
:OhYes: :shame: Oh Tom, you shouldn't have but I'm glad you did
I find it ironic how he criticises me for saying Burns might of told a white lie but it's ok to do the same kind of thing with Haye.
it's not personal though columbo and the toe thing is dead funny
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Fcuk him he's cryed wolf too many times, he should fcuk off and not disgrace our screens again.

Only thing I think if missed is him on his back sparked out.
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It's a real shame the bout is off; |I imagine Tyson Fury is devastated, all that work and money down the drain. I also think Haye will be gutted too - if he's to retire then he's not set out what he aimed to do. Welcome to Grafton :wave: it's nice to see a new face and someone who doesn't mind upsetting as many people as possible in a couple of hours is rare to find.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
Horse wrote:
Grafton Acrylic wrote:But he suffered a VERY heavy knockdown against a non puncher !
It wasn't a heavy knockdown, Fury was fine.
Do you know what constitutes a "heavy knockdown" Horse? (do you know what constitutes "fine" in fact"?) he was almost decapitated. :lol:

Glad I have worked for the NHS for 23 years as I can have my say in this issue.

After viewing the youtube clip I can categorically say that is not the case. His spinal column was not effected and no concussion was caused. He got up and his neck was ok no obvious bruising or internal injury which I would have expected in seeing a male almost decapitated.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
80/20 wrote:I dont think Haye ever really fancied the job in his heart of hearts
Why wouldn't he 'fancy the job' against a man he'd have flattened inside two rounds ?

That we will never know
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mrpedigree chump your ridiculous.
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mimmy123 wrote:Glad I have worked for the NHS for 23 years as I can have my say in this issue.

After viewing the youtube clip I can categorically say that is not the case. His spinal column was not effected and no concussion was caused. He got up and his neck was ok no obvious bruising or internal injury which I would have expected in seeing a male almost decapitated.
:TU:
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
Horse wrote:It wasn't a heavy knockdown, Fury was fine.
Horse says "Fury was fine" Image
You've been on BoxRec before and your name will come to me soon; are you spud wilson?
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palooka wrote:
Grafton Acrylic wrote:
Horse wrote:It wasn't a heavy knockdown, Fury was fine.
Horse says "Fury was fine" Image
You've been on BoxRec before and your name will come to me soon; are you spud wilson?
No its just another troll waiting to see more oysters
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I find it highly implausible that Haye is ducking Fury, who he is confident he would beat.

It is either.

1 - He is genuinely injuried.
2 - He's had an offer to fight Vitali.

Haye would have made a fortune for this fight, would very likely have smashed Fury into oblivion inside 6 rounds, and would have probably converted that to a shot at the title again.

Why on earth would he both destroy his reputation, and turn out a massive payday, against someone he has virtually every advantage over - experience, power, technique, - all Fury has is size and youth on his side.

Although this is frustrating, the suggestion Haye is scared of Fury, is frankly, ludicrous.

This will be borne out when Fury gets obliterated when he steps up against genuine heavyweights with talent and ambition.
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Horse says "Fury was fine" Image[/quote]

You've been on BoxRec before and your name will come to me soon; are you spud wilson?[/quote]

No its just another troll waiting to see more oysters[/quote]

Have you got a picture of an oyster? I've heard about them but never seen one, living in a land locked county.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
So you also don't regard the knockdown as "heavy" ?

Thus far you've denounced me as a "Spin Doctor" and now a "Troll" are you really so insecure about someone having an opposing opinion to yours?

Get your trolling gear around this summer 2013 photo

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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
palooka wrote:Welcome to Grafton :wave: it's nice to see a new face and someone who doesn't mind upsetting as many people as possible in a couple of hours is rare to find.
Thank you :wave:

I think it's only The Mimm I've "upset" . . . that doesn't worry me unduly though as he's clearly a moron (no disrespect intended)
an employed moron, come on now get the facts right.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:So you also don't regard the knockdown as "heavy" ?
Fury being badly affected by it would be a start.

Fury wasn't badly hurt, he was solid legged and his head seemed clear.
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Grafton Acrylic wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Glad I have worked for the NHS for 23 years as I can have my say in this issue.

After viewing the youtube clip I can categorically say that is not the case. His spinal column was not effected and no concussion was caused. He got up and his neck was ok no obvious bruising or internal injury which I would have expected in seeing a male almost decapitated.
Obtuse . .
Ive learned enough over my 45 years, also know a troll when I see one. Also yes insensitive, thats my depression

Actually 45 =45 degrees, so obtuse in other ways
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:I find it highly implausible that Haye is ducking Fury, who he is confident he would beat.

It is either.

1 - He is genuinely injuried.
2 - He's had an offer to fight Vitali.

Haye would have made a fortune for this fight, would very likely have smashed Fury into oblivion inside 6 rounds, and would have probably converted that to a shot at the title again.

Why on earth would he both destroy his reputation, and turn out a massive payday, against someone he has virtually every advantage over - experience, power, technique, - all Fury has is size and youth on his side.

Although this is frustrating, the suggestion Haye is scared of Fury, is frankly, ludicrous.

This will be borne out when Fury gets obliterated when he steps up against genuine heavyweights with talent and ambition.
The other point is fury is pretty much taylor made for haye and was a cherry picked opponent, he comes forward his defense isnt great and he likes a tear up. Wlad has great defensive work, a massive KO ratio, brilliant technique, and doesnt engage, he also leans all over his opponents as fury resorted to doing, thats the same wlad that couldnt put haye away. Why would haye be worried about facing fury?
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