Who Would You Bet A Months Wages On To Beat Ali?

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A motivated Lennox Lewis.

And I'd bet 3 months wages on it.
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DaveK wrote:A motivated Lennox Lewis.

And I'd bet 3 months wages on it.
Do you make a paltry sum, and feel the need for a "hail Mary"?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
ThatOne wrote:No one...

But there are a few fighters I wouldn't bet a month's wages a presumably prime Ali would beat.
I'm interested, who?

I think he could have trouble against Jack Johnson, Holmes and Lennox on his best night. I'll probably get shot for saying this, but I think Louis is an easy night for Ali.
I thought I was alone, I too think Louis style would very good for a Ali win
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Lewis.
Bowe.
Vlad.
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I wouldn't necessarily put a months wages on anybody but I would favor prime Frazier to beat him. As for other fighters, I find it strange that nobody is mentioning Norton. Ali had major problems with Norton in all three fights and those actual fights should count for more than hypothetical match-ups imo.
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I would never bet a months wages, but i'd certainly be tempted to have a dabble on frazier, Bowe & Holmes.
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A lot of the big guys with real athletic talent. Wlad, Vitali, Lewis. Holmes was a bit of an Ali clone. And Tyson could be defused. Holyfield would get the win I think. As would a peak Bowe.
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........ I am reading all of this insight and all I keep thinking is, you cnuts getting paid in real dollars, pounds, euros per month, not fornicating pesos
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macaca wrote:........ I am reading all of this insight and all I keep thinking is, you cnuts getting paid in real dollars, pounds, euros per month, not effing pesos
That makes about as much bogging sense as going to a crack-house for vitamins!
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Il Duce wrote:James J. Jeffiries 'busts up' Muhammad Ali in Round 23.

No way Muhammad Ali could go '25-Rounds' with this 'Hay Baler'.
There's no way Ali lets it get anywhere near round 23. Jeffries wasn't difficult to hit and Ali was supremely accurate. Add to that the fact that Jeffries didn't throw a lot of punches and didn't have great foot speed. How exactly is he going to land telling blows on Ali?
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THESE GUYS COULD HAVE BEATEN ALI:
Evander Holyfield
Joe Frazier
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes
Jack Johnson
Jimmy Young

The ones that would have never beat him:
Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
George Foreman
Rocky Marciano
Joe Louis
Sonny Liston

I am talking prime Ali 1965-67
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Another one that could have beaten him: Ezzard Charles....IF, A BIG IF, he comes with the same speed and 20 pounds heavier. He was a complete fighter.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Prime Frazier is the only one I'd wager that much on. That night in MSG he beats any Ali you want to throw at him. Though Joe was even better in 69.
I probably would wager that much myself.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Prime Frazier is the only one I'd wager that much on. That night in MSG he beats any Ali you want to throw at him. Though Joe was even better in 69.
And Ali was better before three years he had three years without a fight.
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Il Duce wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Prime Frazier is the only one I'd wager that much on. That night in MSG he beats any Ali you want to throw at him. Though Joe was even better in 69.
And Ali was better before three years he had three years without a fight.
Just how do you know this...........Based upon your eyewitness account.
How do you know Dempsey would beat Ali?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Prime Frazier is the only one I'd wager that much on. That night in MSG he beats any Ali you want to throw at him. Though Joe was even better in 69.
And Ali was better before three years he had three years without a fight.
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Re: Who Would You Bet A Months Wages On To Beat Ali?

Post by man »

no one.

coming closest:
.early twenties mike tyson. very fast, very
hard to hit.
.larry holmes. had it all & could dig deep.
.vitali. due to his physicality and tenacity,
which IMO is underrated.

next in line:
.prime evander gives everyone a difficult fight.
.louis i think is not flexible enough overall to
avoid ali and still get something landing by himself.
.the lean (golota) version of lewis.

.bowe's prime was too short and untested to make
a judgement. tunney is too small and has no speed
advantage. dempsey is overrated. jack johnson i don't
know. seen too little footage. but he seems to be
competitive with everyone in history. jeffries: totally
easy fight for ali.
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