If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
I really do believe adam will be there & I think it makes Hayes case look very shady!!
Everything groves does is scripted. Him telling froch tactics has been done before & Ali used to say tell them one thing do another. Booth is a historian & loves this sh1t.groves don't need to help Carl out in order for him to win its funny.
Everything groves does is scripted. Him telling froch tactics has been done before & Ali used to say tell them one thing do another. Booth is a historian & loves this sh1t.groves don't need to help Carl out in order for him to win its funny.
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MightyWarrior
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
Booth won't be in the corner, it's pretty obvious that they have split, although the conspiracy theorists will probably bang on about this until they see he is not in the corner on Saturday night.
Because if this is a bizarre hoax imagine how dumb they will look when groves gets knocked out - laughable really.
Booth will not be there. I do however believe that he shot JFK
Because if this is a bizarre hoax imagine how dumb they will look when groves gets knocked out - laughable really.
Booth will not be there. I do however believe that he shot JFK
Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
He can't of as my nan did it...MightyWarrior wrote:Booth won't be in the corner, it's pretty obvious that they have split, although the conspiracy theorists will probably bang on about this until they see he is not in the corner on Saturday night.
Because if this is a bizarre hoax imagine how dumb they will look when groves gets knocked out - laughable really.
Booth will not be there. I do however believe that he shot JFK
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Lol!!! When kugz asked paddy in his interview it seemed like he almost gave it away??
Look if booth & George have split over money adam surely wouldn't want to be in the same vicinity as groves surely & it seems paddy & andy lee are tight.
If this case has been brought up by the board surely booth should be banned from his corner?? Frochs management should of looked into that & through a spanner in the works if there was a plan.
Froch seems to think he knows everything because he foolishly trusts haye who has invested in groves & would sell his own nan!
However it's been great to follow for us drama biatches
I wouldn't mind groves winning but I'd rather he lose & degale beat froch & then the return!! If groves win he don't need degale
Look if booth & George have split over money adam surely wouldn't want to be in the same vicinity as groves surely & it seems paddy & andy lee are tight.
If this case has been brought up by the board surely booth should be banned from his corner?? Frochs management should of looked into that & through a spanner in the works if there was a plan.
Froch seems to think he knows everything because he foolishly trusts haye who has invested in groves & would sell his own nan!
However it's been great to follow for us drama biatches
I wouldn't mind groves winning but I'd rather he lose & degale beat froch & then the return!! If groves win he don't need degale
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danconnollyeire
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
hurlock wrote:I really do believe adam will be there & I think it makes Hayes case look very shady!!
Everything groves does is scripted. Him telling froch tactics has been done before & Ali used to say tell them one thing do another. Booth is a historian & loves this sh1t.groves don't need to help Carl out in order for him to win its funny.
I don't get this 'so-called plan'.
"Hey George, I tell you what will 100% win this fight for us. I'll sue you, give you the money back. That will put Froch right off. Oh, also... put a paddy in your corner. Carl can't function with Irish accents"
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danconnollyeire
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
Maybe Froch doesn't give a sh1t as he's likely to win either wayhurlock wrote:Lol!!! When kugz asked paddy in his interview it seemed like he almost gave it away??
Look if booth & George have split over money adam surely wouldn't want to be in the same vicinity as groves surely & it seems paddy & andy lee are tight.
If this case has been brought up by the board surely booth should be banned from his corner?? Frochs management should of looked into that & through a spanner in the works if there was a plan.
Froch seems to think he knows everything because he foolishly trusts haye who has invested in groves & would sell his own nan!
However it's been great to follow for us drama biatches![]()
I wouldn't mind groves winning but I'd rather he lose & degale beat froch & then the return!! If groves win he don't need degale
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Counter-puncher
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
danconnollyeire wrote:
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I don't get this 'so-called plan'.
"Hey George, I tell you what will 100% win this fight for us. I'll sue you, give you the money back. That will put Froch right off. Oh, also... put a paddy in your corner. Carl can't function with Irish accents"
good form, Dan
Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
Didn't it end up in court? I'm sure the courts and the British board would be well chuffed if it was all for nothing. Not going to happen move on
Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
Don't think so. They had an initial meeting at the board the other week, nothing more than that so far.
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Danny stop picking in me you passive aggressive!
I really find it strange the split has come at this crucial stage.groves & the mind games are never ending! Froch suffers badly from nerves & haye alongside audley know on how Carl sufferd at England camps reading confidence books etc. & George has been fed plenty of details & I think he has froch truly rattled. The last press conference was the first time George showed weakness & the mask has slightly dropped.
Booth has done great got George he's built him physically & mentally, while securing him a great route in changing promoters at the right time.
If it is legit I feel George aint as confident as he comes across if he wants to cling onto this purse because if he wins he is a major player in the sport hitting jackpot.
Do you agree with any of that??
I really find it strange the split has come at this crucial stage.groves & the mind games are never ending! Froch suffers badly from nerves & haye alongside audley know on how Carl sufferd at England camps reading confidence books etc. & George has been fed plenty of details & I think he has froch truly rattled. The last press conference was the first time George showed weakness & the mask has slightly dropped.
Booth has done great got George he's built him physically & mentally, while securing him a great route in changing promoters at the right time.
If it is legit I feel George aint as confident as he comes across if he wants to cling onto this purse because if he wins he is a major player in the sport hitting jackpot.
Do you agree with any of that??
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I dont think Froch is the same fighter mentally that he was when he was an amateur. McCracken has worked on the confidence in quite a big way. Also I imagine training with the GB set up, he has access to sports psychologists, etc if he wants it.hurlock wrote:Danny stop picking in me you passive aggressive!
I really find it strange the split has come at this crucial stage.groves & the mind games are never ending! Froch suffers badly from nerves & haye alongside audley know on how Carl sufferd at England camps reading confidence books etc. & George has been fed plenty of details & I think he has froch truly rattled. The last press conference was the first time George showed weakness & the mask has slightly dropped.
Booth has done great got George he's built him physically & mentally, while securing him a great route in changing promoters at the right time.
If it is legit I feel George aint as confident as he comes across if he wants to cling onto this purse because if he wins he is a major player in the sport hitting jackpot.
Do you agree with any of that??
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I don't understand where your drawing this win 100% from & I'll give you the money back???Counter-puncher wrote:danconnollyeire wrote:
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I don't get this 'so-called plan'.
"Hey George, I tell you what will 100% win this fight for us. I'll sue you, give you the money back. That will put Froch right off. Oh, also... put a paddy in your corner. Carl can't function with Irish accents"![]()
good form, Dan
Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
"Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate"
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Well they've gone about it back to front then huh!Junker wrote:"Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate"
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handsofstone
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
Surely its a better headfvck for Carl if he thought Booth would be n the corner from the get go as Adam is a very strong asset of Georges,so as for Froch taking his foot of the gas i dont know,i reckon all that would do is fill Carl with more confidence if anything if he thought he wouldnt be there,and say Booth does turn up come fight night(which he wont) i reckon Froch,s prep will be too far on to have much of an affect
McCracken= "theres Adam in the ring with George"
Froch= "so it is,no matter"
What a waste of time that stunt was
Does anyone really believe Adam Booth is capable of a stunt like this? i know he,s clever and big on phsycolagy but is this really that strong a tactic?
McCracken= "theres Adam in the ring with George"
Froch= "so it is,no matter"
What a waste of time that stunt was
Does anyone really believe Adam Booth is capable of a stunt like this? i know he,s clever and big on phsycolagy but is this really that strong a tactic?
Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
hurlock wrote:I really do believe adam will be there & I think it makes Hayes case look very shady!!
Everything groves does is scripted. Him telling froch tactics has been done before & Ali used to say tell them one thing do another. Booth is a historian & loves this sh1t.groves don't need to help Carl out in order for him to win its funny.
Yeah Booth is definitely Illuminati!!
Anybody else noticed his eyelids blink horizontally rather than vertically?
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its from Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War' which apparently is Booth's favourite book. He used it a lot prior to Haye's fights with Maccarenelli and Barrett to unsettle the opposition. Its an interesting read, lots of stuff about deception and what-not...columbo wrote:Well they've gone about it back to front then huh!Junker wrote:"Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate".... ps where's the quote from?
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I know the book in question although havent read it. I'm not sure the psychological warfare has really worked this time. I thought it had prior to the final press conference yesterday but not now.Junker wrote:its from Sun Tzu's 'The Art of War' which apparently is Booth's favourite book. He used it a lot prior to Haye's fights with Maccarenelli and Barrett to unsettle the opposition. Its an interesting read, lots of stuff about deception and what-not...columbo wrote:Well they've gone about it back to front then huh!Junker wrote:"Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate".... ps where's the quote from?
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Carl froch believes it & has been duped. He thought he knew from so called buddy haye confirming split , he's openly said he's spoke to people & it's the truth, which don't sound like a man who don't care regardless, as he has stated.
Knowbody likes being dumbfounded & he has paid attention.
Once the bell goes it doesn't really matter but mind frame is very important & groves has gone out on a limb to upset & thrustrate froch & it's worked & froch not looking at him & sighing shows he is abit burnt out by it all & he hasn't dealt well imo
Knowbody likes being dumbfounded & he has paid attention.
Once the bell goes it doesn't really matter but mind frame is very important & groves has gone out on a limb to upset & thrustrate froch & it's worked & froch not looking at him & sighing shows he is abit burnt out by it all & he hasn't dealt well imo
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danconnollyeire
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
What if Booth is in Froch's corner? That would really fvck with your head
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
danconnollyeire wrote:What if Booth is in Froch's corner? That would really fvck with your head
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Happy Slapper
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
The fact that Andy Lee has been added to the bill meaning Booth will definitely be in the arena has made me think that perhaps he will turn up in Groves corner.
Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
Booth is defiantly a Reptilian for me. Just into his eyes and you can see he is a shapeshifter.Chambers2 wrote:hurlock wrote:I really do believe adam will be there & I think it makes Hayes case look very shady!!
Everything groves does is scripted. Him telling froch tactics has been done before & Ali used to say tell them one thing do another. Booth is a historian & loves this sh1t.groves don't need to help Carl out in order for him to win its funny.
Yeah Booth is definitely Illuminati!!
Anybody else noticed his eyelids blink horizontally rather than vertically?
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Monte Fisto
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Re: If the dark lord has deceived the public,is it the first ?
people aren't saying its a master plan. However it could be enough to just give carl something else to think about come fight time. I still think Carl in 6, but if he is there and groves pulls off the upset they look like a genius in the mind games, if he loses its just what the majority expects.danconnollyeire wrote:hurlock wrote:I really do believe adam will be there & I think it makes Hayes case look very shady!!
Everything groves does is scripted. Him telling froch tactics has been done before & Ali used to say tell them one thing do another. Booth is a historian & loves this sh1t.groves don't need to help Carl out in order for him to win its funny.![]()
I don't get this 'so-called plan'.
"Hey George, I tell you what will 100% win this fight for us. I'll sue you, give you the money back. That will put Froch right off. Oh, also... put a paddy in your corner. Carl can't function with Irish accents"
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I would rename him lucifer!danconnollyeire wrote:What if Booth is in Froch's corner? That would really fvck with your head