He's back in action tonight, almost two years after losing to Brandon Rios for the WBA lightweight title. I've always enjoyed watching him and happy he's back. Hoping he will get in the mix in the domestic lightweight scene.
Could see him having some good scraps with the likes of Crolla/Rees/Mathews and maybe pushing on to another world title shot if he can find his best form again, but time will tell.
How far do you think he can go?
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Terry did a good piece on BS yesterday on him actually.
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Who is training him now?Bohrsy wrote:He's back in action tonight, almost two years after losing to Brandon Rios for the WBA lightweight title. I've always enjoyed watching him and happy he's back. Hoping he will get in the mix in the domestic lightweight scene.
Could see him having some good scraps with the likes of Crolla/Rees/Mathews and maybe pushing on to another world title shot if he can find his best form again, but time will tell.
How far do you think he can go?
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not sure whos training him, but know a few people who have sparred him whilst hes been getting ready but not heard great things, apparently Joe dropped him a few weeks ago in sparring with a body shot and the same from another lad the week before, rumouors i know i hope hes coming back fr the love of boxing and not for money though
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Joe who?Rogers21 wrote:not sure whos training him, but know a few people who have sparred him whilst hes been getting ready but not heard great things, apparently Joe dropped him a few weeks ago in sparring with a body shot and the same from another lad the week before, rumouors i know i hope hes coming back fr the love of boxing and not for money though
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It seems money is a big factor http://www.BS.com/john-murray- ... own--71935Rogers21 wrote:not sure whos training him, but know a few people who have sparred him whilst hes been getting ready but not heard great things, apparently Joe dropped him a few weeks ago in sparring with a body shot and the same from another lad the week before, rumouors i know i hope hes coming back fr the love of boxing and not for money though
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His brother i'd imagine.Counter-puncher wrote:Joe who?Rogers21 wrote:not sure whos training him, but know a few people who have sparred him whilst hes been getting ready but not heard great things, apparently Joe dropped him a few weeks ago in sparring with a body shot and the same from another lad the week before, rumouors i know i hope hes coming back fr the love of boxing and not for money though
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Yeah Joe Murraycolumbo wrote:His brother i'd imagine.Counter-puncher wrote:Joe who?Rogers21 wrote:not sure whos training him, but know a few people who have sparred him whilst hes been getting ready but not heard great things, apparently Joe dropped him a few weeks ago in sparring with a body shot and the same from another lad the week before, rumouors i know i hope hes coming back fr the love of boxing and not for money though
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I think that he has peaked in terms of the level he has boxed at - but that is in no way a criticism !Bohrsy wrote:He's back in action tonight, almost two years after losing to Brandon Rios for the WBA lightweight title. I've always enjoyed watching him and happy he's back. Hoping he will get in the mix in the domestic lightweight scene.
Could see him having some good scraps with the likes of Crolla/Rees/Mathews and maybe pushing on to another world title shot if he can find his best form again, but time will tell.
How far do you think he can go?
He has a couple of years out and if rumours are to be believed he hasn't exactly lived the lifestyle of an athlete.
As you say, there are some great domestic fights out there with the 3 you mention. Hopefully all the boxers will want to fight each other rather than going for some spurious title against some unknown.
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He's only 28 though which in boxing terms isnt that old.Dead Mouse wrote:http://www.BS.com/john-murray- ... own--71935
Here's a recent interview, he knows he's running out of time so wants to move on ASAP.
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Is it more the wear and tear aswell do you think?Dead Mouse wrote:It depends. It's all relative.columbo wrote:He's only 28 though which in boxing terms isnt that old.Dead Mouse wrote:http://www.BS.com/john-murray- ... own--71935
Here's a recent interview, he knows he's running out of time so wants to move on ASAP.
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thats whats he means, I think, IE relative to the fact that Murray ended up eating a lot of punches?
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Who promotes him now?
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is he not still signed to allegedly
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Warren. He is letting him fight on Coldwells show tonight thats why.
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He got the win last night, stopped his opponent in four. Called out Derry after the fight, think he could do with a few more rounds under his belt before that fight to be honest. Derry is on a bit of a run at the moment, which will continue if he beats Ormond which I think he will.
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How did he look?Bohrsy wrote:He got the win last night, stopped his opponent in four. Called out Derry after the fight, think he could do with a few more rounds under his belt before that fight to be honest. Derry is on a bit of a run at the moment, which will continue if he beats Ormond which I think he will.
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Took a few too man off a smaller many in the first few, but after 2 years out he will be rusty. Then slowly got better as the fight went on.
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Makes sense! To be fair he's never been a slickster either though so with two years out on top it's natural really.pyenest77 wrote:Took a few too man off a smaller man in the firs fewt, but after 2 years out he will be rusty. Then slowly got better as the fight went on.
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is he trained by arnie now might be wrong but sure i read something a few months ago totally forgot about the show last night wanted to watch it on the app 
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Fixed that for youDead Mouse wrote:Escobar was 10lbs heavier on the night. Mostly Lard, but still.pyenest77 wrote:Took a few too man off a smaller man in the first few, but after 2 years out he will be rusty. Then slowly got better as the fight went on.
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Great piece Terry.
I worry about the amount of shots he takes, he took a lot of punishment from Mitchell and particularly Rios. He seems a good guy and I hope things work out well for him.
He gives a very good insight into the reality of being a pro boxer, and the comparison to football and the PFA's role was interesting. Barry McGuigan said in his book of the Professional Boxers' Association that he set up, that in the end there's only so much you can do to help people who won't help themselves. I reckon plenty of boxers are advised by people close to them, whether that be family or friends, to look after their money and to think about what they will do after boxing, but like a lot of young people I expect most would have a generally short-term view of their futures and don't have the realisation of just how quickly you get older and can't do the things that you used to anymore.
I worry about the amount of shots he takes, he took a lot of punishment from Mitchell and particularly Rios. He seems a good guy and I hope things work out well for him.
He gives a very good insight into the reality of being a pro boxer, and the comparison to football and the PFA's role was interesting. Barry McGuigan said in his book of the Professional Boxers' Association that he set up, that in the end there's only so much you can do to help people who won't help themselves. I reckon plenty of boxers are advised by people close to them, whether that be family or friends, to look after their money and to think about what they will do after boxing, but like a lot of young people I expect most would have a generally short-term view of their futures and don't have the realisation of just how quickly you get older and can't do the things that you used to anymore.