does Froch needs to retire after last night

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stevedoc
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does Froch needs to retire after last night

Post by stevedoc »

first off what a bloody rip off that stoppage was , Froch was taking so many big right hands and looked slow against a young fresh fighter all froch had was a tough chin , a couple more fights like that and froch will end up a cabbage .i hope froch hangs up his gloves rather than fight groves again .....
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he's got his money and had some big wins. I don't like using the phrase what he should do but I think he should go off and be a family man. He's got a baby, does he really need 12 rounds of sheer hell with a man (Groves/ Ward etc) who can hit him cleanly and often?
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He could retire but he wont

To answer the OP; I reckon Carl has one or two left in him.

Then he should bow out.
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Of course not. Froch has a couple more fights in him and he has the titles, so no.

Bar Ward, I'd still favour in most fights at SMW.
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i would say hang em up but that wasnt a rip off last night,it was a rip of to froch for not being able to really put groves to sleep but c'mon people the way were talkin here is like froch hit groves with one shot and foster jumped in,froch snapped groves head back with two clean shots and groves bent over and turned his back on froch before foster jumped in so to me if foster didnt jump in it could of been groves who wer all praying for this morning. as a fight fan we all wanna see a clear winner but i dont wanna see a fighter end up like watson,mclellan,oliver or ingle,the ref's job is a hard one,he has to act on what he see's and from what i seen was groves shy away from the fight after getting hit with 2 clean shots after a few cuffing shot's and was open to be hit again. for the record groves had the chance to put it on carl and didnt so if he wants to blame anyone for getting stopped blame himself.
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fasteddie wrote:i would say hang em up but that wasnt a rip off last night,it was a rip of to froch for not being able to really put groves to sleep but c'mon people the way were talkin here is like froch hit groves with one shot and foster jumped in,froch snapped groves head back with two clean shots and groves bent over and turned his back on froch before foster jumped in so to me if foster didnt jump in it could of been groves who wer all praying for this morning. as a fight fan we all wanna see a clear winner but i dont wanna see a fighter end up like watson,mclellan,oliver or ingle,the ref's job is a hard one,he has to act on what he see's and from what i seen was groves shy away from the fight after getting hit with 2 clean shots after a few cuffing shot's and was open to be hit again. for the record groves had the chance to put it on carl and didnt so if he wants to blame anyone for getting stopped blame himself.
i can't believe you watched the whole fight , groves won 8 rds and froch had a good 15 seconds in the whole fight and groves took 2 shots but he was defending himself and weaving away from the punches and he was 100% fine when the ref stopped it .
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He said in the after fight interview he hurt him so how's that 100 percent fine? Thank god you don't ref if you think that's 100 percent fine!! Yes we were robbed of a proper ending-would groves of survived or would froch have stopped him? Wel never know but 100 percent fine???
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Froch has 3 fights left in him max,and i dont think he,s got the skills left to beat the type of opponents he,ll want to face for his swansong,whether it be Ward,Golovkin or maybe even Groves
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Look at Groves face ffs, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXw3oYKKN3A

Froch boxed how he always has, we all knew he wasn't going to outbox GG and instead look to wear him down, everyone needs to calm down, we were robbed of a definitive ending, that is all.
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I don't he should retire just yet.

He must have a rematch with Groves & then see where he is before thinking about quitting.

If Groves hands him his backside again, then he should think about hanging up his gloves.

Outside of rematching Groves, he has nothing to prove & he would lose to Andre Ward 10 times out of 10, so it's not worth seeking a rematch with him.
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Froch I feel will retire when he loses. I can't imagine
Mcracken letting him continue if he has nights like last night. Froch took some sickening punishment & @ 36 years of age plus the wars he has had, it would be detrimental to his health & he has a family to look after.i don't see it being marketable him boxing Hopkins or a return with ward as groves was a step back & he was getting owned against him pretty convincingly
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mchuffy wrote:Look at Groves face ffs, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXw3oYKKN3A

Froch boxed how he always has, we all knew he wasn't going to outbox GG and instead look to wear him down, everyone needs to calm down, we were robbed of a definitive ending, that is all.
what has groves face got to do with anything ,that's something my wife would say because she knows nothing about boxing ,if letting someone floor you and beat you up non stop is wearing someone down then froch is the man at it :lol: :lol: :lol:
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stevedoc wrote:
mchuffy wrote:Look at Groves face ffs, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXw3oYKKN3A

Froch boxed how he always has, we all knew he wasn't going to outbox GG and instead look to wear him down, everyone needs to calm down, we were robbed of a definitive ending, that is all.
what has groves face got to do with anything ,that's something my wife would say because she knows nothing about boxing ,if letting someone floor you and beat you up non stop is wearing someone down then froch is the man at it :lol: :lol: :lol:
Have you watched Froch fight before? he clearly is the man at it. My point with Groves face is that people are making it out as if Froch was bullied and beaten into retirement, it's laughable, he got outboxed as he often does but he dished it out too, enough to convince the ref to stop it. I don't think he let him floor him either? He couldnt outbox him so survived and waited.
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I've heard Robert McCracken say, many times before that if he ever saw Froch slowing down, then he would be the first to all Carl to stop.

Well unless McCracken was watching the xfactor while that was on. Then he just saw his man not just slowing down, but out fought and beaten up.

I actually thought McCracken could have pulled Froch out after the 6th to be honest. He took some terrible punishment in there.

I'd fear for his safety in a rematch, Groves would be even more spiteful than he was last night. A brutal ko would ensue.

Bow out, get a nice job with matchroom and sky and look after his family. That's my opinion
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Post by reggaereggae »

Did anyone think it was weird the way Froch couldn't stop talking in the interview? Usually he's a man who uses few words
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What's with all the imbeciles on here today, Groove you've been spouting outlandish uneducated posts on here all day, I'm off until the boxing fans return or the jokers/trolls disappear. and Stevedoc this thread speaks more for your stupidity than I ever could.
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mchuffy wrote:What's with all the imbeciles on here today, Groove you've been spouting outlandish uneducated posts on here all day, I'm off until the boxing fans return or the jokers/trolls disappear. and Stevedoc this thread speaks more for your stupidity than I ever could.
:lol: :TU:
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Last night's fight was brilliant for so many reasons. It was the most exciting fight I have seen for years.

Groves was amazing and he looks a real star of the future. His speed, power and accuracy were top drawer.

As for Froch, he is just one hard bastard. Not many would have got up from that knockdown, or take thosenthunderous right hands he took throughout. However, he ground his man down, a man who was better than him in every depapartment apart from heart.

He refused to lose and he got to groves in the later rounds. It was a pathetic stoppage, Groves (and froch) deserved better than that. I think groves would have been done anyway, but at least given the chance to see it. This way questions are left hanging and froch is denied the plaudits for what was in my opinion an incredibly gutsy comeback by an iron chinned champ who refused defeat.
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stevedoc wrote:
fasteddie wrote:i would say hang em up but that wasnt a rip off last night,it was a rip of to froch for not being able to really put groves to sleep but c'mon people the way were talkin here is like froch hit groves with one shot and foster jumped in,froch snapped groves head back with two clean shots and groves bent over and turned his back on froch before foster jumped in so to me if foster didnt jump in it could of been groves who wer all praying for this morning. as a fight fan we all wanna see a clear winner but i dont wanna see a fighter end up like watson,mclellan,oliver or ingle,the ref's job is a hard one,he has to act on what he see's and from what i seen was groves shy away from the fight after getting hit with 2 clean shots after a few cuffing shot's and was open to be hit again. for the record groves had the chance to put it on carl and didnt so if he wants to blame anyone for getting stopped blame himself.
i can't believe you watched the whole fight , groves won 8 rds and froch had a good 15 seconds in the whole fight and groves took 2 shots but he was defending himself and weaving away from the punches and he was 100% fine when the ref stopped it .
go and watch it again mate obviously you were pissed when you watched it to say froch had a good 15 seconds.
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I believe the deal Froch has with McCracken is that one day he will tap him on the shoulder and say 'that's your lot' and Froch will retire, that day can't be far off now.
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Froch said straight after he wont retire. Perhaps pick Degale, that would generate some cash and be a very easy night for him. Although I want a rematch with Groves more than anything
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Post by tear up »

Do the best thing and give groves a rematch or retire as don't think he s the same fighter who beat bute and Kessler
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