The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

Quix
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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crusader wrote:
oh its trolling now lol
i seem to be doing a good job in winding youp lol. maybe because you know i have a point
Or because you've repeatedly tried to tell me who I'm a fan of while spending less time arguing more substantive points I've made.
Like i say, i must be doing a great job of winding you up lol
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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Quix wrote:
ALI wrote:
Quix wrote:On the dailymotion video, Groves clearly slumps forward and drops his hands on 49 seconds !! It's quite clear.............
You've got the nerve to call me a prick yet your still banging on when your so far of rhe mark I'm actually embarrassed for you.

Let me spell it out, Groves was fighting back, swinging almost as frequently as Froch. Froch, in this exchange, and for the first time since the opening bell landed his first real clean telling punches, he got the better of tbis exchange but Groves was defending, was fighting back and was landing his own shots. There is no indication he was in any serious trouble.

Now, here is where you go wrong. Froch grapples with Groves and at the end of the exchange puts his right arm over and around Groves head pulling him forward and down, Groves goes with it and this is exactly when the ref steps in to stop it. Groves obviously thinks the ref is breaking them up again as Froch has been fighting dirty all night and the ref breaking up the grappling every round. THATS WHY GROVES DROPPED HIS HANDS, BECAUSE THE REF STEPPED IN TO SEPERATE THEM.

As it turned out the fool was actually stopping the fight.

You still dont get it though, do you.
Yes you are a prick, just read back your post to me initially about wasting five minutes of your life and that my post should be deleted etc. Childish in the extreme, but your one of a number of people on sites like this that have issues in real life and so come on a site like this looking for an argument. In the real world people have opinions, but on here you aren't allowed to have that. If you take an opposing view, you are a moron by default according to you lol. The fact that you take it so seriously say's a lot. Your view is no more correct than mine or anyone else's, including the referee, who was in the ring, unlike you. Yet you are so sure of what happenned and everyone who doesn't agree with you is completely and utterly wrong. Don't be embarressed for me, be embaressed for yourself, that you actually come on a site like this on a regular basis, trying to pass yourself off as a boxing genius lol.

You see it differently to me. I see Groves momentarily stunned dropping his hands and leaning forward. You describe events that are slowed down to milli seconds. You wouldn't have been able to describe what you did on the night of the fight and when it happenned and that is my point. Foster didn't have any hindsight, any slowed down camera footage. He saw what he thought was Groves in serious trouble, with his hands dropped etc and made the decision in a split second. However, YOU STILL DON'T GET IT DO YOU !! My point is that i didn't agree with the stoppage. I merely said that seeing this footage could PERHAPS make Foster's decision more understandable and that being from Foster's point of view. Ask a thousand people and they will all say something different. You however, can't just say that you disagree. Oh no, you have to go on about post deletion and wasting five minutes of your life. You HAVE to be derogatory. Why ? Because you probably aren't that happy in real life, have issues and so are looking for a ruck with someone on a naff boxing website !! Now, that is embarressing lol
Take it easy, stop winding yourself up.

I will tell you one thing about me, i'm man enough to admit when i'm wrong. I told the world Froch would hammer Groves, yet the exact opposite happened. I'm not daft enough to deny it because ITS ON FILM for everyone to see.

I went to specsavers :DD
Quix
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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Touche my friend :TU:

I also thought Froch would beat Groves in an easier fashion...................

Take you specs back, you need another pair :TU:
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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Take it easy, stop winding yourself up.

I will tell you one thing about me, i'm man enough to admit when i'm wrong. I told the world Froch would hammer Groves, yet the exact opposite happened. I'm not daft enough to deny it because ITS ON FILM for everyone to see.

I went to specsavers :DD[/quote]


:bow: well done that man; I bet on Groves winning and thought he had Frochs number - I was right and I was wrong :( hopefully Groves will prosper on the back of his showing and I hope Froch rematches him, that would be a really big money fight.
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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palooka wrote:I bet on Groves winning and thought he had Frochs number - I was right and I was wrong
That must have been hard to stomach. Results like that would put anyone of betting on boxing for life.
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That stoppage just gets worse with every viewing, the shot that makes Foster panic is just a short but sharp left hook, Groves automatically reverts to his high right hand defensive shape, it's a punch he recovered from in seconds.


Foster was out his depth, we'd barely hear a final bell if this was the standard for a stoppage.
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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Quix wrote:
crusader wrote:
oh its trolling now lol
i seem to be doing a good job in winding youp lol. maybe because you know i have a point
Or because you've repeatedly tried to tell me who I'm a fan of while spending less time arguing more substantive points I've made.
Like i say, i must be doing a great job of winding you up lol
You're not winding me up at all and I've actually enjoyed posting in this thread.

Give yourself credit for something if it makes you feel better though :TU:
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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Quix wrote:On the dailymotion video, Groves clearly slumps forward and drops his hands on 49 seconds !! It's quite clear.............

That video was in slow motion and so the referee doesn't have that advantage. I say again, that it doesn't justify the decision, but IT DOES make it more understandable. If people are saying he wasn't slumped slightly forward and dropped his hands on 49 seconds, even if its for a short period of time, then they have other agenda's lol. Anyway, it's getting boring now, so if people tthink Groves wa s 100% ok, was going to win the fight, knock Froch out and Foster was crap or paid off, great stuff, all power to you.

nonsense - he follows the momentum of his movement and only lowers his hands as the ref interjects. Presumably thinking that the ref was moving them apart again. I have no 'other agenda' whatever that is supposed to mean - I believe Groves was robbed of his opportunity, and we as fans were robbed of a wonderful true ending (however that may have been) to a great fight.
I find the judges scorecards sinister - I find the ref's decision wrong - albeit a mistake and not malicious.
Quix
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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To Crusader :

lol...fair enough,

I can see all sides of the argument, but was just trying to make sense of what Foster did. I quite like the odd verbal :TU:
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Re: The crucial moment the referee stops the fight : Video

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davidas wrote:
Quix wrote:On the dailymotion video, Groves clearly slumps forward and drops his hands on 49 seconds !! It's quite clear.............

That video was in slow motion and so the referee doesn't have that advantage. I say again, that it doesn't justify the decision, but IT DOES make it more understandable. If people are saying he wasn't slumped slightly forward and dropped his hands on 49 seconds, even if its for a short period of time, then they have other agenda's lol. Anyway, it's getting boring now, so if people tthink Groves wa s 100% ok, was going to win the fight, knock Froch out and Foster was crap or paid off, great stuff, all power to you.

nonsense - he follows the momentum of his movement and only lowers his hands as the ref interjects. Presumably thinking that the ref was moving them apart again. I have no 'other agenda' whatever that is supposed to mean - I believe Groves was robbed of his opportunity, and we as fans were robbed of a wonderful true ending (however that may have been) to a great fight.
I find the judges scorecards sinister - I find the ref's decision wrong - albeit a mistake and not malicious.
Fair enough fella, you think one thing and i think another, no big deal. I too think it was a premature stoppage and i also think that the scorecards where way off
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