who is most overrated on boxrec, who most underrated?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

What the fvck are you on?

Do you know why there are so few posters on BOTP?

I'm not strung out on pain killers. That would be you, junkie.

Ooh. Getting really personal now, with a hint of hatred. Is that the best you can come up with?

[keithmoonhangover]

And yet you obsess over my every word or emoticon.

What the fvck are you on?

Do you know why there are so few posters on BOTP?

I'm not strung out on pain killers. That would be you, junkie.

Great timing by the way. Just what I needed when I'm seeing a surgeon tomorrow to find out if they need to cut any more of my stomach out. Terrible Saad, even for you.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

What the fvck are you on?

Do you know why there are so few posters on BOTP?

I'm not strung out on pain killers. That would be you, junkie.

Great timing by the way. Just what I needed when I'm seeing a surgeon tomorrow to find out if they need to cut any more of my stomach out. Terrible Saad, even for you.

You're the one that can't carry on a conversation without being a dick. That's far more childish than I am. I certainly don't wish you any harm. You're meaningless to me.

[keithmoonhangover]

You're the one that can't carry on a conversation without being a dick. That's far more childish than I am. I certainly don't wish you any harm. You're meaningless to me.

Being a dick, is calling someone a junkie, without even the slightest provocation. You were out of order, simple as that. It's no wonder you've been banned from here before.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You're the one that can't carry on a conversation without being a dick. That's far more childish than I am. I certainly don't wish you any harm. You're meaningless to me.

Being a dick, is calling someone a junkie, without even the slightest provocation. You were out of order, simple as that. It's no wonder you've been banned from here before.

You asked me what the fornicate I was on and I responded in kind. I got banned for taking up for you. Obviously the truth hurts. Good luck with your surgery, junkie.

[keithmoonhangover]

What are you on, is a turn of phrase. What you wrote was something totally different. And to end your last post the way you did, just sums you up as a human being. Sad, very sad.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

What are you on, is a turn of phrase. What you wrote was something totally different. And to end your last post the way you did, just sums you up as a human being. Sad, very sad.

You're always trying to make things personal with me. It just doesn't bother me. Like I said, the truth hurts. Go pop some Codeine and make it all better.

[keithmoonhangover]

What are you on, is a turn of phrase. What you wrote was something totally different. And to end your last post the way you did, just sums you up as a human being. Sad, very sad.

You're always trying to make things personal with me. It just doesn't bother me. Like I said, the truth hurts. Go pop some Codeine and make it all better.

Dear SaadOffTheDeck,

Your childish bullying tactics have inspired me to write this.

You're always saying that it's not personal for you and you might genuinely believe it's not, but going from discussing Mike Tyson to telling me I'm a junkie is personal. Of course it is. If you can't see that, then you're not quite the smart arse know-it-all that you make out. Accusing me of being more childish than you, don't make me laugh, that statement in itself belongs in the schoolyard. Whether you like it or not, you are childish and you did make it personal - well as personal as someone can on an internet forum.

I say you're a bully and for good reason, you are. You belittle posters who disagree with you, mock them and yes, you do get personal. Do you know one of the reasons there are so few posters on BOTP? You scare them off. You're might read that and think, I'm wrong, but I've had quite a few private messages from posters telling me they won't be posting on here any more. I have a feeling you'll blame them, saying they are soft skinned and should ignore it as it's nothing personal. Newsflash Saad, YOU'RE ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE LEAVE, not the only reason, but one of them. Whether you like it or not, that's a fact. How does that make you feel? You'll probably find a way to blame other people, which is something you often do.

And as you made it personal, by calling me a junkie, because I take medication that was prescribed to me by the guy who cut me open last year and will cut me open again next year, I'm going to make it personal back. You are an arrogant, selfish and pompous individual. I hope you get some kind of pleasure from bullying people, and when I say that, I'm not the only person who thinks you're a bully. Plenty of current posters do as well. You might say it's light hearted and 'only a bit of fun' and people are 'too sensitive'. Well Mr Saad, people shouldn't have to justify themselves. The problem sir, is you.

I'm sure you'll want to post a retort, either saying you don't care or blaming me. That's what you usually do. So, the floor is yours for a little bit more of your childish personal bullying

Your best friend in the world,

Keith.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Don't start shit if you can't take it coming back at you. Don't talk jovially about how you do drugs everyday if you don't want it thrown back in your face. I usually just snore off your constant attempts at bickering, today I gave you a dose of your own medicine.

You're a typical pussy that can dish it out but you can't take it. In other words, you're a bully. The only thing that makes calling you a junkie personal is the fact that you're a junkie. How would you react if I called you a virgin? I'd be honored if you left BOTP over me. Anyone else that has left because of me makes me laugh. I couldn't care less.

Now buck up little trooper, they're slicing your fat ass up today and you need your strength. I must say, this sobby little post is much more believable than when you brag about your wonderful life and attempt to demean mine. The fact of the matter is you're a disabled junkie that sucks down pills and wine to try and make it through his useless days.

Don't die today buddy,

Saad

[keithmoonhangover]

Don't start poo if you can't take it coming back at you. Don't talk jovially about how you do drugs everyday if you don't want it thrown back in your face. I usually just snore off your constant attempts at bickering, today I gave you a dose of your own medicine.

You're a typical pussy that can dish it out but you can't take it. In other words, you're a bully. The only thing that makes calling you a junkie personal is the fact that you're a junkie. How would you react if I called you a virgin? I'd be honored if you left BOTP over me. Anyone else that has left because of me makes me laugh. I couldn't care less.

Now buck up little trooper, they're slicing your fat ass up today and you need your strength. I must say, this sobby little post is much more believable than when you brag about your wonderful life and attempt to demean mine. The fact of the matter is you're a disabled junkie that sucks down pills and wine to try and make it through his useless days.

Don't die today buddy,

Saad

Does it actually make you happy to write a post like that?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Don't start poo if you can't take it coming back at you. Don't talk jovially about how you do drugs everyday if you don't want it thrown back in your face. I usually just snore off your constant attempts at bickering, today I gave you a dose of your own medicine.

You're a typical pussy that can dish it out but you can't take it. In other words, you're a bully. The only thing that makes calling you a junkie personal is the fact that you're a junkie. How would you react if I called you a virgin? I'd be honored if you left BOTP over me. Anyone else that has left because of me makes me laugh. I couldn't care less.

Now buck up little trooper, they're slicing your fat ass up today and you need your strength. I must say, this sobby little post is much more believable than when you brag about your wonderful life and attempt to demean mine. The fact of the matter is you're a disabled junkie that sucks down pills and wine to try and make it through his useless days.

Don't die today buddy,

Saad

Does it actually make you happy to write a post like that?

It's just a post, I enjoy talking on here. If you feel the need to bicker for days, so be it. If you weren't such a child we could treat each thread differently, but that's not you.

[keithmoonhangover]

Don't start poo if you can't take it coming back at you. Don't talk jovially about how you do drugs everyday if you don't want it thrown back in your face. I usually just snore off your constant attempts at bickering, today I gave you a dose of your own medicine.

You're a typical pussy that can dish it out but you can't take it. In other words, you're a bully. The only thing that makes calling you a junkie personal is the fact that you're a junkie. How would you react if I called you a virgin? I'd be honored if you left BOTP over me. Anyone else that has left because of me makes me laugh. I couldn't care less.

Now buck up little trooper, they're slicing your fat ass up today and you need your strength. I must say, this sobby little post is much more believable than when you brag about your wonderful life and attempt to demean mine. The fact of the matter is you're a disabled junkie that sucks down pills and wine to try and make it through his useless days.

Don't die today buddy,

Saad

Does it actually make you happy to write a post like that?

It's just a post, I enjoy talking on here. If you feel the need to bicker for days, so be it. If you weren't such a child we could treat each thread differently, but that's not you.

The child is you.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Does it actually make you happy to write a post like that?

It's just a post, I enjoy talking on here. If you feel the need to bicker for days, so be it. If you weren't such a child we could treat each thread differently, but that's not you.

The child is you.

At least I don't need codeine to make it through a day.

[keithmoonhangover]

At least I don't need codeine to make it through a day.

No, you just need bitterness. At least I can stop taking codeine. You'll always be bitter.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

At least I don't need codeine to make it through a day.

No, you just need bitterness. At least I can stop taking codeine. You'll always be bitter.

You're the bitter one and it would good if you stopped taking Codeine. You might be half a man without your addiction.

[macaca]

If in this hypothetical situation they have the same exact boxing style and the same exact personality then it would not be well received by the American culture. And they would generate less income.

What a load of bollocks.

x10

They would be marketed as brothers, brothers in arms, double trouble, star and stripe etc etc blah blah blah, the indestructible untouchables, they would be on every TV advert, on every talk show, the guys that redefined boxing, the true boys next door american dream pugilists, have the biggest fornicating razzamatazz vegas entrances, no american would not get behind title defence after defence performances. The less income part is totally ridiculous! Oh and whatever you say before you thik I am anti American, I am not but there would also be a 99% chance that at least one of them would have some personality and appeal, it is the american way.
By american I mean North America and specifically that bit between canada and mexico, other bits exist but not as relevant

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Americans embrace fighters of all nationalities. Vitali had quite a following building when he retired.

[macaca]

Americans embrace fighters of all nationalities. Vitali had quite a following building when he retired.

Has he confirmed this, I know he wants to be president in 2015 but I thought he was still well and truely playing the WBCs fiddle through injury and other bollocks

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Americans embrace fighters of all nationalities. Vitali had quite a following building when he retired.

Has he confirmed this, I know he wants to be president in 2015 but I thought he was still well and truely playing the WBCs fiddle through injury and other bollocks

I mean after the Williams fight. By the time he came back his brothers boring nature had already put off the fans and networks. Not to mention, his entire comeback has been filled with joke fights.

[Crease]

Overrated: Floyd Mayweather Jr
(Just because I'm sick of people - who know that I like boxing - asking me if he is the best of all time...
My answer always is, "maybe, outside of the top 50")

Underrated: Well there's a few who i would maybe put in here, Oscar De La Hoya or Eusebio Pedroza or maybe even Ricky Hatton to a lesser degree.

[Crease]

Actually I was going to edit my post and take Ricky Hatton out of it as I don't think he deserves it as much as DLH or Pedroza.
But the kid was really good and now I'm torn on the issue....

[keithmoonhangover]

Actually I was going to edit my post and take Ricky Hatton out of it as I don't think he deserves it as much as DLH or Pedroza.
But the kid was really good and now I'm torn on the issue....

To this day, I don't understand how DLH and Hatton didn't fight. I would have been one of the biggest fights in history.