Froch dismisses Groves rematch

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mikiesb wrote:If i was groves I would start making plans to fight someone else - the ringside on skysports interview this week said it all
Anyone know if this weeks Ringside is available to watch online somewhere, or if the Froch interview from Ringside is available online?

No trace of it on YouTube.
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By the looks of it I reckon Froch will fight Chavez and then finish he's career fighting andre ward
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Froch is great to watch but he knows the score no matter what his family tell him.

Everytime Groves touched him he was buzzed like never before.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Final round wrote:Carl is desperate for a rematch with Andre Ward but who lost the more clearly?
George or Carl ?
There was clear daylight between the Ward/Froch on the cards why does he think he deserve's a rematch but Groves who was winning on everyone cards up to the ref stepping in does not.
Andre Ward owes him nothing
Froch doesn't owe Groves anything. .
Er yes he does, a rematch.
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Froch has now lost his bottle, he knows a Groves rematch would earn him a ton of cash, (and BTW probably get picked up by HBO or Showtime.) but he also knows that EVEN (and I think he wouldnt) IF he wins the ginger will punish him and take him somewhere he doesen't wanna go anymore.

Conclusion? = his arse has colapsed.
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Jon Saxon wrote:Froch has now lost his bottle, he knows a Groves rematch would earn him a ton of cash, (and BTW probably get picked up by HBO or Showtime.) but he also knows that EVEN (and I think he wouldnt) IF he wins the ginger will punish him and take him somewhere he doesen't wanna go anymore.

Conclusion? = his arse has colapsed.
I can't take you seriously anymore Mr Saxon, since you said Carl Froch could not beat Bute and then went into hiding when he won.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Jon Saxon wrote:Froch has now lost his bottle, he knows a Groves rematch would earn him a ton of cash, (and BTW probably get picked up by HBO or Showtime.) but he also knows that EVEN (and I think he wouldnt) IF he wins the ginger will punish him and take him somewhere he doesen't wanna go anymore.

Conclusion? = his arse has colapsed.
I can't take you seriously anymore Mr Saxon, since you said Carl Froch could not beat Bute and then went into hiding when he won.

Good win for Froch no doubt, he really impressed me that night Keith.

But the facts remain, his arse has collapsed.
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Jon Saxon wrote:Good win for Froch no doubt, he really impressed me that night Keith.

But the facts remain, his arse has collapsed.
Bollocks. Froch hasn't ducked anyone yet, it's all just talk.
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mikiesb wrote:Depends what's in froch's head imo.

Does he want to take a gamble on maybe his last fight and try and avenge a loss to Ward - which to be honest I doubt
he would win and Ward in my opinion is the best super middle and I reckon maybe could also clean up the light heavy's too.

or Froch do the right thing and fight George Groves again but like he said he has nothing to gain from it...

So if I was a boxer with maybe 1 fight left in the tank avenge a loss or do the right thing ?? or am I bothered only about the cash..??

Do I want to just think about the money I think froch has enough cash now so he isn't too bothered about that either..

Key question where would he make more money rematching Groves or Ward?

He has also said he would not fight Stephenson - ringside on skysports this week correct me if I am wrong about that.

Personally I think it's going to be either a rematch with Ward or someone random - but not Groves.

If i was groves I would start making plans to fight someone else - the ringside on skysports interview this week said it all - again correct me if i am wrong.
Thing is, don't see how Ward makes him more money than Groves - Ward isn't very popular outside of his hometown, which is why he always fights there, nobody else gives a toss about him in the states.

I think a Groves rematch, with all the grudge involved, would definitely be picked up on an American network, they could fight at 2.00 A.M, maybe a football ground - I reckon if it was promoted right, they could sell absolutely shed loads of tickets for this one - not sure Nottingham is a big enough place though, would people travel there, would have to probably be a big indoor arena - and with the PPV money here, and possibly PPV money (or if not, at least network TV money) from the US - it would be humungous.

However, Carl isn't probably that bothered about the money, I think he'd like a big fight in the Vegas - I think it may be Chavez, maybe a Cinco de Mayo fight? Big business, but not a great fight really on paper.

I don't think his arse has gone, I think it's more 'Screw George Groves, I don't like him, and he had his chance.'
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Jon Saxon wrote:Good win for Froch no doubt, he really impressed me that night Keith.

But the facts remain, his arse has collapsed.
Bollocks. Froch hasn't ducked anyone yet, it's all just talk.
Correct Keithy but he's defo sendin out em smoke signals and they have a stong wif of duck.
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Jon Saxon wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Jon Saxon wrote:Good win for Froch no doubt, he really impressed me that night Keith.

But the facts remain, his arse has collapsed.
Bollocks. Froch hasn't ducked anyone yet, it's all just talk.
Correct Keithy but he's defo sendin out em smoke signals and they have a stong wif of duck.
All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.
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.[/quote]

Correct Keithy but he's defo sendin out em smoke signals and they have a stong wif of duck.[/quote]

All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.[/quote]


Well at least we want the same thing :-)
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I think hell take a fight in the states next. If he rematches groves next and loses those big fights may be harder to make. In fact Groves would probably get them instead of Froch.

Hell fight Ward/GGG next, get beat up then come back and fight Groves if at all
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Jon Saxon wrote:.
Correct Keithy but he's defo sendin out em smoke signals and they have a stong wif of duck.[/quote]

All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.[/quote]


Well at least we want the same thing :-)[/quote]

Absolutely mate. There's nowt wrong with them fighting someone else first. If I was Froch I'd love to fight Chavez. It's a big fight in the states and here. Groves should fight Robert Stieglitz.
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Why is Chavez Jr a big fight here?

Does anyone really care about it?
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SNG wrote:Why is Chavez Jr a big fight here?

Does anyone really care about it?
Yes. Froch is a big attraction now, despite the 'fans' that don't like him because of what he says and a referee's actions.
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jamesmcdonnell - 2 points you make I agree with : -

"However, Carl isn't probably that bothered about the money, I think he'd like a big fight in the Vegas - I think it may be Chavez, maybe a Cinco de Mayo fight? Big business, but not a great fight really on paper . - Vegas - nice place to fight - decent money

I don't think his arse has gone, I think it's more 'Screw George Groves, I don't like him, and he had his chance.'" - agree Froch probably thinking u had the chance and I aint going to put anymore money in your pocket - even if I am shooting myself in the foot financially wise.
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All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.[/quote]

You were more than convinced that Povotkin would beat Wlad (in fact you convinced me to put a tenner on Povotkin)
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palooka wrote:All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.
You were more than convinced that Povotkin would beat Wlad (in fact you convinced me to put a tenner on Povotkin)[/quote]

He convinced his wife to let him bet a grand, he's got powers of persuasion
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palooka wrote:All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.
You were more than convinced that Povotkin would beat Wlad (in fact you convinced me to put a tenner on Povotkin)[/quote]

I know. :doh: I apologised for the tenner. I'd pay you back myself, but I'm skint, unless you can think of another way for me to 'pay' for it. :o
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Final round wrote:
palooka wrote:All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.
You were more than convinced that Povotkin would beat Wlad (in fact you convinced me to put a tenner on Povotkin)
He convinced his wife to let him bet a grand, he's got powers of persuasion[/quote]

The powers are failing me, she's watching the X-Factor and I'm a Celeb and I'm relegated to the laptop.
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I'd be happy enough to see Groves in against Bika or Steiglitz.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Final round wrote:
palooka wrote:All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.
You were more than convinced that Povotkin would beat Wlad (in fact you convinced me to put a tenner on Povotkin)
He convinced his wife to let him bet a grand, he's got powers of persuasion
The powers are failing me, she's watching the X-Factor and I'm a Celeb and I'm relegated to the laptop.[/quote]

And you'll never convince me that Groves was stopped necessarily or that he doesn't deserve a rematch :)
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
Final round wrote:
palooka wrote:All talk mate, all talk. I'm convinced the rematch will happen.
You were more than convinced that Povotkin would beat Wlad (in fact you convinced me to put a tenner on Povotkin)
He convinced his wife to let him bet a grand, he's got powers of persuasion
The powers are failing me, she's watching the X-Factor and I'm a Celeb and I'm relegated to the laptop.[/quote]

To generous! Cut a deal one or t'other
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To be perfectly honest, I would rather see Groves in with Ward than see Froch in with him again.
The gulf in glass was just far too big between Froch and Ward to make me even remotely interested in watching it again.

At least seeing Groves in with Ward would bring something new and different. Im not saying he would win but it would be interesting.
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