World records that won't be broken

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 23 Nov 2005, 09:54

Here is a list of world records in boxing that probably will never be broken:

1. 230 wins by Willie Pep. I read a record of a fighter in this site that has more wins than he. Well, I say the record of a world champion with most wins. The Ring swears that Pep has the record of most professional victories tahn any other fighter in history.

2. 141 KO victories by Archie Moore

3. 166 fights without being stopped by Panama Al Brown

4. 11 title defenses in one year by Henry Armstrong

5. 5 times champion in one weight class by Sugar Ray Robinson

6. 466 total pro fights by Len Wickwar

7. 17 consecutive title defenses by the way KO by Wilfredo Gomez

8. Youngest champion in history at 17 by Wilfred Benitez

9. KOs at every round from 1 to 15 by Roberto Duran (Modern era record)

10. 25 title defenses by Joe Louis...This record could have been higher if not that Joe went to the army. Which record you guys think that could be broken...Other records to mention please, thanks

ShoeShine · Post by **ShoeShine** » 23 Nov 2005, 10:24

NONE, these are different times...U will never see anyone fight as many fights as the guys in the past did...most of the records set u would have to accomplish by having a lot of fights.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 23 Nov 2005, 10:38

I dunno, Buck Smith is only 40 and he might launch a comeback to challenge a few of these records.

barry · Post by **barry** » 23 Nov 2005, 11:13

Fight Fax, old Ring record books and others that state Archie Moore having 141 KO’s is incorrect as many of the knockouts counted in that stat were in fact amateur bouts. Currently Moore has around 130 verified knockouts, which I think is still tops, unless Sam Langford has it beat, but I would bet that if the research is ever done that “Tiger” Jack Fox will have around 150-175 actual knockouts.

It will be very, very, very rare for any fighters of this era to ever score 100 career knockouts…hell, 50 career knockouts would be stretching it nowadays!

The list that I have, which I need to go back over and edit, has both Langford and Fox already ahead of Moore.

Boxer KO Active
Sam Langford 137 1902-1925
“Tiger” Jack Fox 134 1925-1950
Archie Moore 128 1936-1963
W.L. “Young” Stribling 127 1921-1933
Billy Bird 124 1920-1950
Buck Smith 118 1987-2003
Alabama Kid 114 1928-1950
“Sugar” Ray Robinson 109 1940-1965
George Odwell 108 1930-1945
Sandy Saddler 103 1944-1956
George “KO” Chaney 102 1910-1925
Henry Armstrong 101 1931-1945
Jimmy Wilde 100 1910-1923

With all the various alphabet titles of today, which three, or four are supposedly legit, then it is very possible for a fighter to win one weight class title over five times, but I guess it would depend on the person putting the list together. Personally, I would put an asterisk beside any belt holder, unless he had unified the division!

Other than those two records I would say that the others that were mentioned are very safe from anyone breaking!

Another record that will be difficult to break is the number of title bouts that Julio Cesar Chavez has won.

cybox · Post by **cybox** » 23 Nov 2005, 11:47

Reggie Strickland, still active at 366 pro bouts and 37 yrs old only 104 bouts away from breaking that title. Reggie could possibly become the new record holder.

cybox · Post by **cybox** » 23 Nov 2005, 14:09

cybox wrote:Reggie Strickland, still active at 366 pro bouts and 37 yrs old only 104 bouts away from breaking that title. Reggie could possibly become the new record holder.

Healso has 81 consectutive bouts without being stopped as of current...86 more to go

hawaiianpunch · Post by **hawaiianpunch** » 23 Nov 2005, 14:54

I think Packy McFarland won something like 90 plus fights in a row without a loss???
Lamar Clark KO'ed 43? guys in a row. Sometimes two in the same night.

-KOKid- · Post by **-KOKid-** » 23 Nov 2005, 15:05

Battling Levinsky once fought three fight in one day. The first in Brooklyn, NY in the morning, the second in Manhattan in the afternoon and then he jumped on a train to Connecticut and fought there in the evening.

Another record that will never be broken is one set by Maxie Rosenbloom. In one year he fought 30 bouts, all of them going the distance.

-KOKid-

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 23 Nov 2005, 15:20

it looks like an easy record to break, but here we are 50 years later and no heavyweight champion has broken 49-0 marcianos record.

it loooked like foreman would do it, then he lossed to ali. then holmes was deathly close to at least tieing it, but couldnt manage it. then we all thought tyson was goingto do it but a man names buster douglas tamed mike tyson.

so here we are 50 years later and whos the closest to breaking it??

nicolay valuev!!!

barry · Post by **barry** » 23 Nov 2005, 19:14

Barney Ross---though it was 135, 140 and 147...he didn't drop the 135 & 140 titles until after he had won and lost the 147 title.

Cojimar 1945 · Post by **Cojimar 1945** » 23 Nov 2005, 19:38

Some champions have surpassed Marciano's undefeated streak. Although they were not heavyweights this still seems like a huge achievement.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 23 Nov 2005, 20:26

Cojimar 1945 wrote:Some champions have surpassed Marciano's undefeated streak. Although they were not heavyweights this still seems like a huge achievement.

yes of course, but im talking about the heavyweight champion record. this has yet to be surpassed and we have had a lot of heavyweight champions since marciano because of alhpa.

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 23 Nov 2005, 20:28

What about most low blows in a round?

Can anyone break Andrew Golota's record for this?

What was it like 10?

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 23 Nov 2005, 20:48

Julio Cesar Chavez going 88-0 and 90-0-1, even if he deserved a definite loss to Whitaker and a possible loss to Lockridge.

Irish · Post by **Irish** » 23 Nov 2005, 21:35

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:it looks like an easy record to break, but here we are 50 years later and no heavyweight champion has broken 49-0 marcianos record.

it loooked like foreman would do it, then he lossed to ali. then holmes was deathly close to at least tieing it, but couldnt manage it. then we all thought tyson was goingto do it but a man names buster douglas tamed mike tyson.

so here we are 50 years later and whos the closest to breaking it??

nicolay valuev!!!

If Valuev beats the record I will be pissed

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 24 Nov 2005, 02:20

...ezzard charles holds the record for heavyweight champions total number of fights.....122. i doubt that it will be broken. actually, it's kind of shame that ezzard himself holds the record, as he fought for so long after he should have. was through when he retired...then came back because he was dead broke.

unlikely that joe louis' record of seven title defenses in one year ...1941...will be broken by any heavyweight champion....and i mean real champion....though i don't think even the alphabet boys will come close either.

one reason barney ross doesn't get credited with the three title record is that the junior titles didn't have total acceptance then.

i am not saying they shoudn't have....i'm just saying that in many circles they didn't have.

....and...by my not SAYING they shouldn't have doesn't mean that i think they should have. 8)

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 24 Nov 2005, 03:22

after marciano II fight, charles fought one last good preformance vs danny nardico then he terribly plunged.

barry · Post by **barry** » 24 Nov 2005, 09:06

No, Barney Ross did not drop the lightweight and jr. welterweight titles until 1935, so at one time he still held the three titles at once. Women don't count!

1933
Jan 20 Johnny Datto Pittsburgh KO 2
Feb 22 Tommy Grogan Chicago W 10
Mar 22 Billy Petrolle Chicago W 10
Mar 26 Tony Canzoneri Chicago W 10
(Wins World Lightweight and World Jr. Welterweight Titles)
May 4 Joe Ghnouly St. Louis W 10
Jul 26 Johnny Farr Kansas City TKO 6
Sep 12 Tony Canzoneri New York W 15
(Retains World Lightweight and World Jr. Welterweight Titles)
Nov 17 Sammy Fuller Chicago W 10
(Retains World Jr. Welterweight Title)

1934
Jan 24 Billy Petrolle New York W 10
Feb 7 Pete Nebo Kansas City W 12
(Retains World Jr. Welterweight Title)
Mar 5 Frankie Klick San Francisco D 10
(Retains World Jr. Welterweight Title)
Mar 14 Kid Moroo Oakland W 10
Mar 27 Bobby Pacho Los Angeles W 10
May 28 Jimmy McLarnin New York W 15
(Wins World Welterweight Title)
Sep 17 Jimmy McLarnin New York L 15
(Loses World Welterweight Title)
Dec 10 Bobby Pacho Cleveland W 12
(Retains World Jr. Welterweight Title)

1935
Jan 28 Frankie Klick Miami W 10
(Retains World Jr. Welterweight Title)
Apr 9 Henry Woods Seattle W 12
(Retains World Jr. Welterweight Title)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apr Abandons Lightweight and Jr. Welterweight Titles
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

May 28 Jimmy McLarnin New York W 15
(Regains World Welterweight Title)
Sep 6 Baby Joe Gans Portland, OR TKO 2
Sep 13 Ceferino Garcia San Francisco W 10
Nov 29 Ceferino Garcia Chicago W 10

iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 24 Nov 2005, 15:05

elmersalsa wrote:Here is a list of world records in boxing that probably will never be broken:

1. 230 wins by Willie Pep. I read a record of a fighter in this site that has more wins than he. Well, I say the record of a world champion with most wins. The Ring swears that Pep has the record of most professional victories tahn any other fighter in history.

According to BoxRec, Young Stribling had 245 career victories at the time of his death...at age 28!

He nearly won the Light Heavyweight title on two occasions and gave Max Schmeling a good fight right up until Schmeling stopped him in the final round.

Stribling was also stopped just one time in, I believe 274 career bouts (off the top of my head)...which arguably is just as impressive as Panama Al Brown's 166 fights without being stopped.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 24 Nov 2005, 15:21

How about most title rounds fought - Emile Griffith 339? I can't see that many guys coming close.

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 24 Nov 2005, 15:26

yeah wow..i knew it was alot but i didnt know it was that many rounds. very impressive.

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 27 Nov 2005, 11:50

No one has broken Tommy Burns' record of 8 consecutive KOs in title defences either. I'm talking the undisputed world heavyweight title, of course.

Cap

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 27 Nov 2005, 11:57

i could see that being broken

barry · Post by **barry** » 27 Nov 2005, 12:05

I figured for sure that Louis had beat Burns' record of eight KO's, but he didn't, though he did have seven consecutive knockouts on three different occasions in title defenses!

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 27 Nov 2005, 15:01

Burns gets a lot of bad press and no respect really but I think he should be regarded as an all time great, he was barely a light-heavyweight yet beat very good heavyweights... if he had stuck at 175 he'd be talked of as one of the best imo...

World records that won't be broken

World records that won't be broken

re

re

Marciano's record beaten

Re: Marciano's record beaten

re

Re: World records that won't be broken

re