Thomas Hearns Versus

[Vladimir5555]

Carlos Monzon
Chris Eubank
Jose Luis Lopez
Terry Norris
Winky Wright

[gilgamesh]

He knocks out Terry Norris, outboxes Winky Wright, and gets knocked out by Carlos Monzon. I don't know enough about the other two to comment.

[Vladimir5555]

Lopez showed good fight against Quartey.He drops Bazooka two times in match;-)

[dr_devious]

Carlos Monzon - loses mid-late rounds TKO
Chris Eubank - wins wide points decision
Jose Luis Lopez - wins by stoppage
Terry Norris - wins by early ko
Winky Wright - wins on points

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Monzon by close decision
Eubank close decision for Hearns.
He would shut out Wright and destroy Lopez & Norris early.

[Bobbyptsd]

I only see Monzon beating him out of that list, and I'm not even sure about that.

[BoxBuzz]

Monzon is the only one that has a lock on a win.

And Carlos would beat him soundly, and based on Monzon's accuracy and Hearns Chin...I'm thinkin' it won't go the distance. That does not mean by any stretch that this would be anything less than an outstanding warriors exchange of weaponry. As well as a good test of Monzon's ability to stay verticle.

I think the Norris fight could be more interesting than what a first impression might evoke. But it only has one outcome....

Hearns will be safe from Eubank, as long as Chris doesn't call upon his 90 degree uppercuttish punch of death. However I think Eubank would choose not to use such deadly artillery...as he was always wary of it's devastating affect on his opponents, and did not want to be saddled with the consequences.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The 154 pound Thomas Hearns was greater than anyone Monzon ever faced. He'd have a world of trouble in that fight.

[BoxBuzz]

I agree, but he had a pretty granite chin, and a way of taking the steam out of the big incoming, which would be just what he would need. Hey I fully understand that if Thomas Hearns, gets a full shot at you, and you don't see it coming.....you'll get to go home early. And though Carlos MAY not have had quite the chin Hagler had, (debateable) he was not far from that class, and I think he was a quicker thinker when it came to compromising the strongest of incoming shots.

Hearns is a guy who can NEVER be underestimated. He could outbox you and/or he could put you to sleep. And as you have pointed out in the past, Monzon's ability to fight an equally tall opponent is at least open to speculation.

I'd put my money on Escopeta.....and be very nervous. I think it could turn out to be a longer more drawn out and more measured brutality than the Hagler Hearns affair.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I think it would be largely tactical. Tommy had the better jab and a big edge in speed. Carlos was obviously more durable. He's my favorite fighter and all, but I'm comfortable saying that no fighter from 147-160 is a 'lock' over a peak Hearns.

[Vladimir5555]

Hearns W 12 Wright
Hearns KO 4 Norris
Hearns TKO 3 Lopez
Hearns SD 12 Monzon
Hearns W 12 Eubank

[Ambling Alp II]

Carlos Monzon - loses mid-late rounds TKO
Chris Eubank - wins wide points decision
Jose Luis Lopez - wins by stoppage
Terry Norris - wins by early ko
Winky Wright - wins on points

That's about how I see it as well; he might stop Eubank as well. Assuming Hearns is at his best, Monzon is the only one who would beat him. Wright may make it interesting in a tactical battle.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

How would Winky do that? He would have the least chance in my estimation. Is he going to out-jab Tommy? Hurt him? That's like a 100 out of 100 fight.

[BoxBuzz]

Well when Winky can't win, he usually at least frustrates his opponent, and hangs in there.

But the ol' "I'll block 90% of your punches and accept 75% of their power could fail him with Tommy. lol. He'll have some pretty banged up hands and arms, as well as a well shaken noggin.

[Ambling Alp II]

He had a really good defense which would limit Hearns ability to score. Wright could land enough combinations to be competitive. He certainly isn't going to get shutout.

[BoxBuzz]

But alp....that just gets him to the finish line. Not sure he gets the checkered flag that way.

[gilgamesh]

I don't see anything Wright could do win, I think he could have his moments and survive the distance, but I don't see how he could ever pull ahead and win the fight.

I see him losing 9 rounds to 3 or something like that, every time.

[BoxBuzz]

Although Hearns was not intimidated by Duran, I do think that a Wright or a Whitaker could get under his skin.....and that is there only hope...to take him off his game in frustration.


And that....I have to say...is a very thin possibility.


The only assured way to beat Tommy....is to....well.....beat Tommy.

And I think Monzon could actually accomplish it. He had the right stuff. The rest...have to hope for a hail Mary plan (and for the names listed it would require a psyche plan, not a KO plan)........and honestly....Mary don't answer many of those calls.

[King Carlos]

Monzon beats him. I see it more like Saad said, but with Monzon eventually stopping him down the stretch. He'd have a lot of trouble gaging Hearns, and may very well be behind on points leading to the stoppage.

Hearns beats all the others comfortably. Lopez had a granite chin, though, so I don't see him going out early. Maybe not even at all. Then again given his lackadaisical nature it's possible the ref might just see fit to put an end to it if Lopez wasn't offering much return fire.

[polecateddy]

Loses to Monzon in 9-12 rounds, Norris surprises Hearns with a comeback KO in 3, he split decisions a very strong Eubank and wins wide against Lopez. Wright fight ends in a draw.

[Vladimir5555]

At 154 Hearns destroyed Norris.

Norris not Iran Barkley.He has a Very weak jaw..))

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He had a really good defense which would limit Hearns ability to score. Wright could land enough combinations to be competitive. He certainly isn't going to get shutout.

Him being shut out is far and away the most likely scenario. Jermain Taylor forged through that defense, so did Fernando Vargas. I think his D would be enough for him to survive, but he would accomplish nothing offensively.

[Vladimir5555]

Hearns better boxer than Vazquez,Simon and Vargas,IMO..

[llabwons]

Wright - Hearns by wide UD
Eubank - Hearns by wide UD
Lopez - Hearns by KO
Norris - Hearns by KO in less than 5 rounds

Monzon- This is the toughest to call. Hearns was not chinny as many people seem to label him, his KO's to Hagler and Leonard were against two of the very best fighters of all time after gruelling wars. The Barkley hayemaker would've probably sparked almost any other middleweight that's lived, bar Hagler. Tommy himself is one of the best fighters ever to get in a ring and IMO isn't rated high enough on most lists. Fighters of that level don't get knocked out easily.

Hearns would enjoy height, reach, plenty of speed, and an edge in power advantage over Carlos which is some going. On top of all that his boxing ability was second to none when he chose to use it and that's exactly what he would need to do to win this one. I can see a couple of scenario's with these two and if they fought twice I think they'd each win one of them.

I can imagine Hearns using all of the aforementioned advantages to outbox Monzon by a split decision.

I can also see Tommy getting caught up mixing it up with Monzon and being ground down by his superior strength to lose a UD after some scary moments in the later rounds.

But if Valdes, Bouttier, Griffith and Briscoe can go the distance with Monzon, the legendary Hit Man definitely can.

[llabwons]

Loses to Monzon in 9-12 rounds, Norris surprises Hearns with a comeback KO in 3, he split decisions a very strong Eubank and wins wide against Lopez. Wright fight ends in a draw.

Does this guy even know who Hearns is!

I think he's getting mixed up with Keith Holmes lol.