Off Topic - Bye Bye Bestie

The Hawk · Post by **The Hawk** » 25 Nov 2005, 13:34

Some great footage and tributes to George Best on the Northern Ireland News there. Most of them from "Joe" public and how they interacted with him when he lived here with Alex Best.

He's to be brought home to Belfast to rest.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 25 Nov 2005, 13:39

silkov wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:RIP but he wasted a good liver that would of went to someone who needed it and didn't want to drink it away.
The majority of people who have liver transplants do so because of drink related illness and many of them start drinking again after the transplant. Best was certainly not the only person to start drinking again after a transplant.

Just to add my tuppence. Yes, you could argue Best did waste his new liver by going on the sauce again. But I think it's only fair that you give these people (if their need for a new liver is down to drink) a chance. There was a Scottish artist called John Bellamy, who drunk his liver to shreds. He was given a liver transplant, and has never drunk a drop of alcohol since. Sadly, for whatever reason, George couldn't do the same.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 25 Nov 2005, 16:46

RIP George Best, United's & Britain's greatest ever footballer. :(

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 26 Nov 2005, 07:28

jomothepure wrote:
silkov wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:RIP but he wasted a good liver that would of went to someone who needed it and didn't want to drink it away.
The majority of people who have liver transplants do so because of drink related illness and many of them start drinking again after the transplant. Best was certainly not the only person to start drinking again after a transplant.
Just to add my tuppence. Yes, you could argue Best did waste his new liver by going on the sauce again. But I think it's only fair that you give these people (if their need for a new liver is down to drink) a chance. There was a Scottish artist called John Bellamy, who drunk his liver to shreds. He was given a liver transplant, and has never drunk a drop of alcohol since. Sadly, for whatever reason, George couldn't do the same.

He was given a chance but he messed he it up.

Credit to John Bellamy.

His liver didn't fail, it was the anti-rejection drugs which did him in, they caused complications because they weaken the immune system, that is why he couldn't fight off the infection

Isn't their any other drugs that wouldn't cause infection? Do all patients who have transplants need em or is it only when the body rejects it?

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 26 Nov 2005, 11:09

RIP GEORGE

The Hawk · Post by **The Hawk** » 02 Dec 2005, 18:32

George Bests funeral is in Belfast Saturday, its a couple of miles from me so will be able to get up early to go to it.

There was a great couple of interviews on Northern Ireland TV last couple of days, Barry McGuigan was in Belfast and he spoke in great detail on Best, his skills as a sportsman and how he got to know him as a person. I thought McGuigan carried himself very well in the detail in which he spoke about him.

This will be a State funeral that Northern Ireland has never seen. RIP George Best.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 03 Dec 2005, 15:28

It's hard to believe that Bestie is gone.

It's even more poignant, when you see clips of the 1968 United team winning the European Cup & he was the baby of that side & yet he's gone.

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 03 Dec 2005, 22:31

Having caused a bit of a kerfuffle last week with a joke (which I still think ain't that bad) that was cracked at an extremely insensitive time, I feel I should put my bit in:

I told my mum about my remark on this forum and she gave me a bit of a roasting for that. Speaking to other people, it seems that alcoholism is a pretty nasty ILLNESS, not something that they choose to do. I didn't feel much sympathy for Bestie at first, but having delved into the subject a bit more, it seems much worse than previously thought.
Bestie left NI at 15, a very young age to go off into the big wide world and to be thrust into a team such as Man Utd, where things were expected of him anyway. Having proved that he was a bit special, he was then thrust into the limelight and became the legend that we all came to know and love. All this pressure and all this expectation of him was enormous and with the stuff he did on the pitch, people the world over came to idolise him. Having folk come up to you all the time to say their piece, either positive or negative can probably make you wonder whether you'll ever get any peace and quiet ever. What with all the media on your back, it's no wonder he was driven to drink. His mother, who didn't touch a drink until she was 40, died of alcoholism too. To see your mother dying like that would destroy me, let alone GB.
So now, as we look back on the good and bad of GB, there's two clear things we know: 1) he was a genius, a true genius and awesome talent on the football pitch revered by the whole sporting world and 2) from all accounts he was a brilliant bloke to meet and know.

Let's remember him as he should be remembered. We'll probably never see anyone like him ever again.

RIP George Best.

The Hawk · Post by **The Hawk** » 04 Dec 2005, 06:18

Boxingmad wrote:Having caused a bit of a kerfuffle last week with a joke (which I still think ain't that bad) that was cracked at an extremely insensitive time, I feel I should put my bit in:

I told my mum about my remark on this forum and she gave me a bit of a roasting for that. Speaking to other people, it seems that alcoholism is a pretty nasty ILLNESS, not something that they choose to do. I didn't feel much sympathy for Bestie at first, but having delved into the subject a bit more, it seems much worse than previously thought.
Bestie left NI at 15, a very young age to go off into the big wide world and to be thrust into a team such as Man Utd, where things were expected of him anyway. Having proved that he was a bit special, he was then thrust into the limelight and became the legend that we all came to know and love. All this pressure and all this expectation of him was enormous and with the stuff he did on the pitch, people the world over came to idolise him. Having folk come up to you all the time to say their piece, either positive or negative can probably make you wonder whether you'll ever get any peace and quiet ever. What with all the media on your back, it's no wonder he was driven to drink. His mother, who didn't touch a drink until she was 40, died of alcoholism too. To see your mother dying like that would destroy me, let alone GB.
So now, as we look back on the good and bad of GB, there's two clear things we know: 1) he was a genius, a true genius and awesome talent on the football pitch revered by the whole sporting world and 2) from all accounts he was a brilliant bloke to meet and know.

Let's remember him as he should be remembered. We'll probably never see anyone like him ever again.

RIP George Best.

Well said Boxingmad!

I went yesterday to Stormont buildings, I think there was around 16,000 in the grounds there alone (Most of the time in the lashing rain

not had a soaking like that in years

) We got to see it all on big screens as it made it's way from Best's Dad's home.

There's a sense of pride here when you take away his troubles and look at the man, I know the estate well were Best is from, his Dad still lives there and they are a family who know their roots. Its 2 miles from me and to think of a boy coming from there and having done what he did in the world is sport is special. I'm not a football fan, I'm a Boxing fan through and through but in sporting talent he was something else.

It was a sent off like no other I have ever seen in a small country like Northern Ireland.