Tony Bellew at CW
Tony Bellew at CW
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Good luck to him, I think it is the right move myself.
Good luck to him, I think it is the right move myself.
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keithmoonhangover
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Isn't there already a thread about this?taffytoon wrote:http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/3107 ... Rw.twitter
Good luck to him, I think it is the right move myself.
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If there is and it is directly underneath this one " I deserve a Ban"keithmoonhangover wrote:Isn't there already a thread about this?taffytoon wrote:http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/3107 ... Rw.twitter
Good luck to him, I think it is the right move myself.
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There's plenty of water treading fights for him in this division.camacho,China Clarke, men's au, conquest etc. my only concern is his strength after the boiling down I expect him to not look great instantly but I think he will do well & the comfort of doing cruiser may make him lazy. I'd say he needs a great conditioning coach & adam booth would be the best man for him in this department, him & bobby rich are easily the most advanced & proven in this country hands down
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1 nut
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I don't like boxers moving up I think it is a possibility they become lazier
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I'm not sure that Booth would want to work purely as a conditioning coach for Bomber lol.hurlock wrote:There's plenty of water treading fights for him in this division.camacho,China Clarke, men's au, conquest etc. my only concern is his strength after the boiling down I expect him to not look great instantly but I think he will do well & the comfort of doing cruiser may make him lazy. I'd say he needs a great conditioning coach & adam booth would be the best man for him in this department, him & bobby rich are easily the most advanced & proven in this country hands down
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I think if it's possible for you to make light heavy then the chances are your too small for cruiser adamek being the one exception that i can think of.
Can you imagine huck,hernandez,cunningham or david haye making 12,7?
Think bellews going to look small no matter how many weights he lifts.
Can you imagine huck,hernandez,cunningham or david haye making 12,7?
Think bellews going to look small no matter how many weights he lifts.
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I know! I'm just saying some of Adams main strengths.i don't think people are aware of booths academics in sports science & nutrition & has the psychology down to a tee.columbo wrote:I'm not sure that Booth would want to work purely as a conditioning coach for Bomber lol.hurlock wrote:There's plenty of water treading fights for him in this division.camacho,China Clarke, men's au, conquest etc. my only concern is his strength after the boiling down I expect him to not look great instantly but I think he will do well & the comfort of doing cruiser may make him lazy. I'd say he needs a great conditioning coach & adam booth would be the best man for him in this department, him & bobby rich are easily the most advanced & proven in this country hands down
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squared circle
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How much of it is booths skill or Hayes freak genetics though?
And although he's always ripped, there have long been doubts over his stamina - well founded or not
And although he's always ripped, there have long been doubts over his stamina - well founded or not
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To circle round men like wlad & valuev giving away a massive weight defecit determines Hayes stamina over 12 rds each occasion, I'm suprised your questioning his stamina, it's more his durability but he boxes to a plan devised by himself & booth which is well thought out & plays to his strengths & away from his weaknesses which is key to his success, I'm not a fan but I give him credit where it's due & respect the fact he never sighned up to anybody & rolled the dice going Paris & Germany & he reaped the benefits because no promoter would of allowed to risk his stock. He did make me feel proud wearing the Union Jack shorts in the heart of France picking himself off the canvas were many would of swallowedsquared circle wrote:How much of it is booths skill or Hayes freak genetics though?
And although he's always ripped, there have long been doubts over his stamina - well founded or not
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black panther
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hurlock wrote:To circle round men like wlad & valuev giving away a massive weight defecit determines Hayes stamina over 12 rds each occasion, I'm suprised your questioning his stamina, it's more his durability but he boxes to a plan devised by himself & booth which is well thought out & plays to his strengths & away from his weaknesses which is key to his success, I'm not a fan but I give him credit where it's due & respect the fact he never sighned up to anybody & rolled the dice going Paris & Germany & he reaped the benefits because no promoter would of allowed to risk his stock. He did make me feel proud wearing the Union Jack shorts in the heart of France picking himself off the canvas were many would of swallowedsquared circle wrote:How much of it is booths skill or Hayes freak genetics though?
And although he's always ripped, there have long been doubts over his stamina - well founded or not
Na Haye most definitely does have a stamina issue. He throws about two punches a round.
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He certainly gassed against Thompson.black panther wrote:hurlock wrote:To circle round men like wlad & valuev giving away a massive weight defecit determines Hayes stamina over 12 rds each occasion, I'm suprised your questioning his stamina, it's more his durability but he boxes to a plan devised by himself & booth which is well thought out & plays to his strengths & away from his weaknesses which is key to his success, I'm not a fan but I give him credit where it's due & respect the fact he never sighned up to anybody & rolled the dice going Paris & Germany & he reaped the benefits because no promoter would of allowed to risk his stock. He did make me feel proud wearing the Union Jack shorts in the heart of France picking himself off the canvas were many would of swallowedsquared circle wrote:How much of it is booths skill or Hayes freak genetics though?
And although he's always ripped, there have long been doubts over his stamina - well founded or not
Na Haye most definitely does have a stamina issue. He throws about two punches a round.
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Bellew v Dawson would be a shoot out.
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Columbo one of my favorite fighters jamie Moore gassed v Scott Dixon & it was early in his career & he ain't rememberd for it & rightly so
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ajwesty13
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fair play to him ... not to upset the bomber but the division seems an easier division...
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You really never can tell whether a move up will benefit a fighter. Plus, eating healthily while gaining weight is still important. Food is the fuel .
After seeing Maidana get outclassed by Alexander I thought he'd made a HUGE mistake but he seems to have done better - although the change of trainer played a big part in that.
But in Cleverly's case he doesn't seem to have progressed from the fighter who impressed me a few years back. I know Kovalev is a massive puncher but Nathan played right into his hands. And I haven't seen him indicate that he fought the wrong fight since then.
After seeing Maidana get outclassed by Alexander I thought he'd made a HUGE mistake but he seems to have done better - although the change of trainer played a big part in that.
But in Cleverly's case he doesn't seem to have progressed from the fighter who impressed me a few years back. I know Kovalev is a massive puncher but Nathan played right into his hands. And I haven't seen him indicate that he fought the wrong fight since then.
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I think moving up is because he can't be bothered doing the hard work
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The jury is out on Bellew until he can produce a performance in the ring as good as his performance at his weigh in.
"I'm prepared to die in the ring"
Prouduces a display only an insomniac will appreciate vs Chilemba in the first fight
"He won't have to go looking for me"
Vs Stevenson, yes correct Tony and he found you very easily and made you look like a right tit after your weigh in antics
"I'm prepared to die in the ring"
Prouduces a display only an insomniac will appreciate vs Chilemba in the first fight
"He won't have to go looking for me"
Vs Stevenson, yes correct Tony and he found you very easily and made you look like a right tit after your weigh in antics
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The_DogFart1 makes his trolling neither witty or humorous.
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I agree.The_Don1 wrote:The jury is out on Bellew until he can produce a performance in the ring as good as his performance at his weigh in.
"I'm prepared to die in the ring"
Prouduces a display only an insomniac will appreciate vs Chilemba in the first fight
"He won't have to go looking for me"
Vs Stevenson, yes correct Tony and he found you very easily and made you look like a right tit after your weigh in antics
Even if he stayed at light heavy Bellew needs to do a re-building job, have at least a couple of good wins against decent opposition before getting another opportunity.
This is even more important at a new weight.
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You love it when I post on here GomezG0mez wrote:The_DogFart1 makes his trolling neither witty or humorous.
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Exactly, a re-building job is needed to see where Bellew's level is really at, he's talked about being at world level and now he needs to prove it.bripez wrote:I agree.The_Don1 wrote:The jury is out on Bellew until he can produce a performance in the ring as good as his performance at his weigh in.
"I'm prepared to die in the ring"
Prouduces a display only an insomniac will appreciate vs Chilemba in the first fight
"He won't have to go looking for me"
Vs Stevenson, yes correct Tony and he found you very easily and made you look like a right tit after your weigh in antics
Even if he stayed at light heavy Bellew needs to do a re-building job, have at least a couple of good wins against decent opposition before getting another opportunity.
This is even more important at a new weight.
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hurlock wrote:To circle round men like wlad & valuev giving away a massive weight defecit determines Hayes stamina over 12 rds each occasion, I'm suprised your questioning his stamina, it's more his durability but he boxes to a plan devised by himself & booth which is well thought out & plays to his strengths & away from his weaknesses which is key to his success, I'm not a fan but I give him credit where it's due & respect the fact he never sighned up to anybody & rolled the dice going Paris & Germany & he reaped the benefits because no promoter would of allowed to risk his stock. He did make me feel proud wearing the Union Jack shorts in the heart of France picking himself off the canvas were many would of swallowedsquared circle wrote:How much of it is booths skill or Hayes freak genetics though?
And although he's always ripped, there have long been doubts over his stamina - well founded or not
Pure rubbish hurlock. If you can extract yourself from booths anus and watch Haye fight you'll see he simply has poor stamina. He gets shattered if he throws more then 20 punches a round.