Brook v Gavin
Brook v Gavin
Is it likely to happen?
I'm confident Kell is several levels above Frankie on all fronts.
With that in mind as a warm up before Porter it's a good match.
Does Frankie deserve it not yet and I don't think he's ready.
But a loss to Brook wouldn't hurt his career.
Thoughts?
I'm confident Kell is several levels above Frankie on all fronts.
With that in mind as a warm up before Porter it's a good match.
Does Frankie deserve it not yet and I don't think he's ready.
But a loss to Brook wouldn't hurt his career.
Thoughts?
Re: Brook v Gavin
It won't happen unless both become world champions which isn't going to happen any time soon, due to promotional arrangements/TJ77 wrote:Is it likely to happen?
I'm confident Kell is several levels above Frankie on all fronts.
With that in mind as a warm up before Porter it's a good match.
Does Frankie deserve it not yet and I don't think he's ready.
But a loss to Brook wouldn't hurt his career.
Thoughts?
Brook will face a tomato can in his next fight as no risks will be taken with a guaranteed world title shot ahead.
Re: Brook v Gavin
It's not gonna happen in a million years.TJ77 wrote:Is it likely to happen?
I'm confident Kell is several levels above Frankie on all fronts.
With that in mind as a warm up before Porter it's a good match.
Does Frankie deserve it not yet and I don't think he's ready.
But a loss to Brook wouldn't hurt his career.
Thoughts?
Re: Brook v Gavin
I know its improbable but a million years !!!columbo wrote:It's not gonna happen in a million years.TJ77 wrote:Is it likely to happen?
I'm confident Kell is several levels above Frankie on all fronts.
With that in mind as a warm up before Porter it's a good match.
Does Frankie deserve it not yet and I don't think he's ready.
But a loss to Brook wouldn't hurt his career.
Thoughts?
Who would win Columbo hypothetically IYHO?
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mickey1975
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Re: Brook v Gavin
The only worry I would have for Frank is the weight. Kell seems a light middle, Frankie a light welter.
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The Insider
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Re: Brook v Gavin
Won't happen and I'd take Gavin. We still haven't seen anything close to how good he really is.
Re: Brook v Gavin
Still unsure how good either can be.
Well this year we are going to see how good Kell reallyis. Especially if he ends up fighting Keith Thurman who I'm really impressed with.
As for Gavin he needs a significant step up next before we start talking World Titles for him.
Well this year we are going to see how good Kell reallyis. Especially if he ends up fighting Keith Thurman who I'm really impressed with.
As for Gavin he needs a significant step up next before we start talking World Titles for him.
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Pugilist-specialist
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Re: Brook v Gavin
ThisThe_Don1 wrote:
Brook will face a tomato can in his next fight as no risks will be taken with a guaranteed world title shot ahead.
Re: Brook v Gavin
I think it's a hard one to pick. I think they're both talented guys with good/very good boxing brains. Kell's extra power might factor in to be fair.TJ77 wrote:I know its improbable but a million years !!!columbo wrote:It's not gonna happen in a million years.TJ77 wrote:Is it likely to happen?
I'm confident Kell is several levels above Frankie on all fronts.
With that in mind as a warm up before Porter it's a good match.
Does Frankie deserve it not yet and I don't think he's ready.
But a loss to Brook wouldn't hurt his career.
Thoughts?
Who would win Columbo hypothetically IYHO?
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JimJim2009
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Re: Brook v Gavin
I am a perennial believer, and I hope 2014 is the year we finally see him shine. They need to stop fuxking around with cheapo opponents and get somebody over who Frankie can get up for. Break the bank and get Zab Judah, and let's see what Frankie does with him. I would crawl over broken glass to see that.The Insider wrote:Won't happen and I'd take Gavin. We still haven't seen anything close to how good he really is.
Re: Brook v Gavin
I don't really see why he wouldn't deserve it. Whilst Brook has fought better comp he's hardly been fighting world class fighters. Would love to see it, think it's a fair bit closer than I imagine most will on here too. There isn't many fighters I'd prefer to see a Brook in with either, if it's not a world title fight or a Guerrero type why not Gavin?
Re: Brook v Gavin
Make it happen we'd see how good Gavin is i'd have my money on Frankie to up his game and beat him
Re: Brook v Gavin
#fastcar ain't got the balls to make Brook-Gavin. I'd pick Gavin to win a UD but if we are being honest he doesn't sell tickets and is a huge risk for little reward.
In my opinion though Frankie Gavin just might have the best boxing skills in this country and he's very underrated. It's just frustrating that he hasn't really had a bit test yet.
Leonard Bundu would be a perfect test and is rated number 3 by the IBF allegedly needs to take a gamble and bring him over here
In my opinion though Frankie Gavin just might have the best boxing skills in this country and he's very underrated. It's just frustrating that he hasn't really had a bit test yet.
Leonard Bundu would be a perfect test and is rated number 3 by the IBF allegedly needs to take a gamble and bring him over here
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Parson Cross
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Re: Brook v Gavin
BAP,
That's funny.
Has Wazza got the balls to make Gavin v Brook ?
That's funny.
Has Wazza got the balls to make Gavin v Brook ?
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big lennox
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Re: Brook v Gavin
My money would be on a Kell Brook stoppage win. I don't think it would be that competitive.
Re: Brook v Gavin
Kell Brook is a much better boxer then people give him credit for, he has a great jab, so he is not just a puncher.
Re: Brook v Gavin
You're right Kell can box when he needs to, but I'm not convinced he can't fight on the inside Carson jones provedAnzi wrote:Kell Brook is a much better boxer then people give him credit for, he has a great jab, so he is not just a puncher.
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mickey1975
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Re: Brook v Gavin
Frankie's chin looks solid and Kell isn't a huge puncher. The only way he could stop him would be cuts.big lennox wrote:My money would be on a Kell Brook stoppage win. I don't think it would be that competitive.
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big lennox
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Re: Brook v Gavin
Could be right. Gavin does look like he is made of stern stuff. Brookes is a deceptively hard puncher though -a very good body puncher too. Good to see that they are both back boxing quite regularly again.mickey1975 wrote:Frankie's chin looks solid and Kell isn't a huge puncher. The only way he could stop him would be cuts.big lennox wrote:My money would be on a Kell Brook stoppage win. I don't think it would be that competitive.
Re: Brook v Gavin
I'm really disappointed in Brook's career trajectory. Eddie Hearn tried to prop up that Senchenko fight but that was a shit fight of the highest order. I guess now that Devon lost to Porter maybe Hearn will put Brook in with Alexander. But I'm not banking on it.
Re: Brook v Gavin
True,his weakness is inside and when he is on the back foot, but not many can get past his jab,speed and power, boxer punchers will cause him problems.BAP1 wrote:You're right Kell can box when he needs to, but I'm not convinced he can't fight on the inside Carson jones provedAnzi wrote:Kelljabok is a much better boxer then people give him credit for, he has a great jab, so he is not just a puncher.
Re: Brook v Gavin
They don't need each other right now in terms of career progression/priorities, public interest or financial needs. Brook is ticking-over, ever-patiently waiting for his shot and Gavin has much work to do in terms of learning, raising his profile and getting a truly meaningful ranking.
But 18 months down the line and I am taking Gavin who despite his bizarre, unsettled, chaotic start (who is my tainer this week and where am I living?) and less than impressive physique; is a definite, undisputed talent.
Gavin just times punches and judges distance better than anyone I've seen for some time and he picks every shot supremely well; without wasting energy or risking getting hit himself. Frankie is going to rise the top is his own sweet time but once he gets there we'll all need to take notice. The pompous analogy is that he's a fine wine...
But 18 months down the line and I am taking Gavin who despite his bizarre, unsettled, chaotic start (who is my tainer this week and where am I living?) and less than impressive physique; is a definite, undisputed talent.
Gavin just times punches and judges distance better than anyone I've seen for some time and he picks every shot supremely well; without wasting energy or risking getting hit himself. Frankie is going to rise the top is his own sweet time but once he gets there we'll all need to take notice. The pompous analogy is that he's a fine wine...
Re: Brook v Gavin
Don't think it will happen, if Brook looses his World title challenge this year I can see him going up to Light Middle
Re: Brook v Gavin
I get the impression he is only staying at welterweight to get a fight with amir khan, he seems more interested in that fight than having a world title shot.brian13 wrote:Don't think it will happen, if Brook looses his World title challenge this year I can see him going up to Light Middle
Re: Brook v Gavin
Won't happen anytime soon, but if it did Gavin beats him !