Froch v Groves II - IBF Order Immediate Rematch

[big lennox]

Froch has said previously he will never vacate a belt through choice. I have seen no evidence in his career that he is unwilling to face any opponent, I think it comes down to him wanting to keep groves dangling a bit. I think froch believes he would have stopped groves and would in a rematch. The fact he's come from behind to win on other occassions will only fuel that belief.

It always makes me laugh when people start judging a fighter on something completely to the contrary of how they have behaved throughout their entire careers.

This whole frochs bottling it mentality is just daft. When has he ever bottled it?

A rematch will be fascinating. I understand the point that you make about Froch coming back and winning. He is incredibly tough, physically and mentally, and I will miss that when he does retire. However, that was the first time I have seen him actually get beat up for a few rounds, and I don't know what that will have taken out of him -probably not very much because he is a freak of nature.

[Finn]

Froch has said previously he will never vacate a belt through choice. I have seen no evidence in his career that he is unwilling to face any opponent, I think it comes down to him wanting to keep groves dangling a bit. I think froch believes he would have stopped groves and would in a rematch. The fact he's come from behind to win on other occassions will only fuel that belief.

It always makes me laugh when people start judging a fighter on something completely to the contrary of how they have behaved throughout their entire careers.

This whole frochs bottling it mentality is just daft. When has he ever bottled it?

A rematch will be fascinating. I understand the point that you make about Froch coming back and winning. He is incredibly tough, physically and mentally, and I will miss that when he does retire. However, that was the first time I have seen him actually get beat up for a few rounds, and I don't know what that will have taken out of him -probably not very much because he is a freak of nature.

yeah igree he took some hard rounds, he did get outboxed and dropped against Taylor as well but this time he liked like he was getting bashed up. Age and his style of fighting means he may start declining quickly, I don't personally think groves was going to win that fight. A rematch is a tougher fight to judge groves could box on the backfoot this time rather than engage, froch will have more respect so may not take give groves the same opportunties to land on him as before. Its a rematch that needs to happen and I think deep down both fighters want it and want to be the one proved right. The winner in the eyes of the fans will have won both fights.

[big lennox]

Froch has said previously he will never vacate a belt through choice. I have seen no evidence in his career that he is unwilling to face any opponent, I think it comes down to him wanting to keep groves dangling a bit. I think froch believes he would have stopped groves and would in a rematch. The fact he's come from behind to win on other occassions will only fuel that belief.

It always makes me laugh when people start judging a fighter on something completely to the contrary of how they have behaved throughout their entire careers.

This whole frochs bottling it mentality is just daft. When has he ever bottled it?

A rematch will be fascinating. I understand the point that you make about Froch coming back and winning. He is incredibly tough, physically and mentally, and I will miss that when he does retire. However, that was the first time I have seen him actually get beat up for a few rounds, and I don't know what that will have taken out of him -probably not very much because he is a freak of nature.

yeah igree he took some hard rounds, he did get outboxed and dropped against Taylor as well but this time he liked like he was getting bashed up. Age and his style of fighting means he may start declining quickly, I don't personally think groves was going to win that fight. A rematch is a tougher fight to judge groves could box on the backfoot this time rather than engage, froch will have more respect so may not take give groves the same opportunties to land on him as before. Its a rematch that needs to happen and I think deep down both fighters want it and want to be the one proved right. The winner in the eyes of the fans will have won both fights.

What's so good about this rematch is that it will be different from a lot of other rematches where fighters generally box more cautiously. Froch, if provoked, can't help but get engaged and Groves won't want to box for 12 rounds because he enjoys taking people out to much. Like Froch -Kessler, is will set alight at some stage, I feel.

I must admit that I have been championing Groves quite a bit and in doing so have almost overlooked Froch's achievement in that fight, whatever we think of the ref's decision.

[MarkMcBurney]

Groves was never Froch's mandatory,

That's exactly what he was, and exactly why the first fight took place.

Let's not forget that, Carl "will always face his mandatory challenger" so there's no reason why he'd vacate.

Is there?

[orbtastic]

Must admit that had me scratching my head.

It's why Groves flew to the US to lobby the IBF in person to get the rematch.