Mundine hypothetical

[dave896]

So hypothetically if you were mundines promotor/manager and you had to pick his opponent for January and the rest of 2014- who would you pick ( in a realistic order) to position yourself well for a shot at FMJ ( I know it won't happen)
I think someone like:
January-Ishe Smith
March-Carlos Molina or Austin Trout (on Canelos undercard)
July/August- Erislandy Lara
November- Canelo or Cotto

All of this taken with the assumption the Mundine is the man he thinks he is and can win each fight...

[amwsnw]

Daniel Dawson
Ishe Smith/ K9 Bundrage
Spinks
Molina

any of these names but I'm dreaming !!

[Hounddawg]

Why Daniel Dawson....? I just had this same discussion on another site, why Daniel Dawson? i would prefer a rematch with Ryan Waters!

[caveman]

dont care

[amwsnw]

Why Daniel Dawson....? I just had this same discussion on another site, why Daniel Dawson? i would prefer a rematch with Ryan Waters!

Dawson hasn't done too much wrong. Hes ranked 14th by the WBA and he fits the criteria Choc was looking for. Would love to see Daniel get a decent pay day as well and its a fight that if promoted correctly (a big IF) could sell well, particularly in Perth. Not sure about Waters ranking !!

[bogan whisperer]

So hypothetically if you were mundines promotor/manager and you had to pick his opponent for January and the rest of 2014- who would you pick ( in a realistic order) to position yourself well for a shot at FMJ ( I know it won't happen)
I think someone like:
January-Ishe Smith
March-Carlos Molina or Austin Trout (on Canelos undercard)
July/August- Erislandy Lara
November- Canelo or Cotto

All of this taken with the assumption the Mundine is the man he thinks he is and can win each fight...

Sorry, my imagination isn't big enough to embrace the proviso you placed at the bottom

[PaddyGold]

dont care

Me neither. I don't want to hear, see, smell or otherwise of Mundine until he regains some credibility. To those who say he has done a lot for Australian boxing, I disagree. I think he has done a lot of harm, making a credible sport into a political/ entertainment spectacle. Fighting bums and trash talking like an brash Americanwith no integrity is a good reason why folk outside boxing think the sport is a waste of time. Superficial nonsense.... Be a gentleman and let your fists do the work in the ring, like many of the other good boxers out there

[bogan whisperer]

So hypothetically if you were mundines promotor/manager and you had to pick his opponent for January and the rest of 2014- who would you pick ( in a realistic order) to position yourself well for a shot at FMJ ( I know it won't happen)
I think someone like:
January-Ishe Smith
March-Carlos Molina or Austin Trout (on Canelos undercard)
July/August- Erislandy Lara
November- Canelo or Cotto

All of this taken with the assumption the Mundine is the man he thinks he is and can win each fight...

Replace the name Ishe Smith with Gunnar Jackson in January and forget the rest of your wet dream

[ra2006]

So hypothetically if you were mundines promotor/manager and you had to pick his opponent for January and the rest of 2014- who would you pick ( in a realistic order) to position yourself well for a shot at FMJ ( I know it won't happen)
I think someone like:
January-Ishe Smith
March-Carlos Molina or Austin Trout (on Canelos undercard)
July/August- Erislandy Lara
November- Canelo or Cotto

All of this taken with the assumption the Mundine is the man he thinks he is and can win each fight...

Hypothtical v reality (in Bold)

January - We know it is Gunner
(Mundine has said like many times before that his fists will do the talking, will win the fight, then express confusion to why the big names are avoiding him!)

March- Carlos Molina or Austin Trout (on Canelos undercard) - Will not happen. Instead another classic Boxa PPV line up against someone who was borderline world class 10 years ago
(Mundine has said like many times before that his fists will do the talking, will win the fight, then express confusion to why the big names are avoiding him!)

July/August-Erislandy Lara - Will not happen. Instead another classic Boxa PPV line up against domestic tin can.
(Mundine has said like many times before that his fists will do the talking, will win the fight, then express confusion to why the big names are avoiding him!)

November- Canelo or Cotto - Will not happen. Instead another classic Boxa PPV line up against someone domestic or 'South America's BEST'
(Mundine has said like many times before that his fists will do the talking, will win the fight, then express confusion to why the big names are avoiding him!)

Repeat the same sequence of events for 2015 and 2016 until he retires.

Thread closed

[polecateddy]

I'm sure Sturm would take him as a voluntary and win a wide points decision. Then default back to fighting nobodies Down Under.

[The Raw Prawn]

Nice work ra2006.
Good to see a Pom with his finger on the [reality] pulse of Australian boxing.

Molina is out of the March equation. He's defending his IBF title against Jermall Charlo on the Alvarez/ Angulo card.

My March quarter dream fight opponent for Mundine is 11th ranked Jermell Charlo 23-0-0
He would wipe the floor with The Fraud.
Could it happen? Not till hell freezes over.

[amwsnw]

Curious if how many pubs and clubs are showing this card throughout the country?? I have asked Mainevent for a list of the pubs in WA showing it but haven't got a response. There is my regular here in WA that I cannot recall ever not showing a fight card (especially a Choc or Greeny card) and they aren't having this on. A check with other mates from around the metro area and their locals have also abandoned Boxa.

[caveman]

not one person outside of the hard core boxing fans have mentioned this fight to me, prob dont even know its on!!!

[convict]

I've got a nice stream of it. Funny no one has bothered to ask for it lol!

[bogan whisperer]

I've got a nice stream of it. Funny no one has bothered to ask for it lol!

Rather watch TV. Thanks anyway though.

[Beltane]

Ra2006 was spot on in saying earlier:

Mundine has said like many times before that his fists will do the talking, will win the fight, then express confusion to why the big names are avoiding him!

As after beating on poor Gunner, the great man, exclaimed:

“I want to fight the best but they’re the top dogs. If they don’t want to fight me then I can’t do much but keep fighting and I want to try and get the championship, that’s my goal.”

Yawn!

[caveman]

he couldnt put gunner away.....whole show was typical mundine crap,

[AntonS]

The show turned out A OK. Like most, I figured it was crap, but eventually (missing couple of bouts) decided to subscribe.
As usual, what looks great on paper, doesn't always turn out that way.

[Hounddawg]

It's the first fight That an Australian has fought on, that I could pay to see, or go to the pub, that I not only forgot about, I just didn't care for.

I told no one about it, other than here, and I plan not to.
Ban Khoder Nasser from the sport.

[bogan whisperer]

he couldnt put gunner away.....whole show was typical mundine crap,

Mundine no threat to any topliner if he can't put away an unranked guy with only a week to prepare. The end is near and all that will remain is hot air

[ra2006]

Ra2006 was spot on in saying earlier:

Mundine has said like many times before that his fists will do the talking, will win the fight, then express confusion to why the big names are avoiding him!

As after beating on poor Gunner, the great man, exclaimed:

“I want to fight the best but they’re the top dogs. If they don’t want to fight me then I can’t do much but keep fighting and I want to try and get the championship, that’s my goal.”

Yawn!

Beltane,
Usually I would gloat about how great I am, but this is not funny nor something to be proud of. Even though I am not a Aussie (I am PR), I still care about and love boxing where ever on the globe I am. Geography is no barrier for the sport I love more than anything else.

What Mundine is doing is ripping the heart of the sport out, he is in it for the love of PPV money and not for legacy, and with it he focuses media attention on him, it means that all sports fans (outside of this forum) get this man as the poster boy of boxing. They get disapointted and tune out.

I am furious at Mundine. He took the Geale fight my opinion of him was slightly elevated. The Mosley show broke down and I was starting to feel sorry for him because it started to look like he was getting the point that he had to raise his game and fight top names.

After the Mosley fight, I started to have top expectations about this new changed man, he had the opportunity to take on an top 20 opponent after he had some respect in the division after Mosley. He original opponent (jones) was a big backwards step, he had effectively pee'd on all of us. This guy (Jones) was not a step forward for Anthony but a PPV revenue generator. If he was serious about Mayweather he could have gone to the US and Europe to fight on a big show on a undercard against a top 20 opponent to get his name out further in the division, he did'nt, he want his own PPV cash cow again and we was robbed for quality boxing entertainment.

Does Anthony look in the mirror today and say he is proud of last night? Does he think last night I have added to my legacy?

His priorities must change because he is wrecking boxings image in this country.

I am so pi55ed off with Anthony, and let down as I thought he was changing.

Rant over!!!

[ra2006]

Sorry I have to go further because I am so furious. Anthony or anyone from Boxa please read these stats. In the last 3 of Mayweather’s opponents, this is who they have fought in the year leading up to their fight with Mayweather.

Mayweather v Saul Alvarez on 14/09/2013
Alvarez had fought in the year leading up to Mayweather
20/04/2013 Austin Trout 26-0 Won UD 12
15/09/2012 Josesito Lopez 30-4 Won TKO 5

Mayweather v Robert Guerrero on 04/05/2013
Guerrero had fought in the year leading up to Mayweather
24/11/2012 Andre Berto 28-1 Won UD 12
28/07/2012 Selcuk Aydin 23-0 Won UD 12

Mayweather v Miguel Cotto on 05/05/2012
Cotto had fought in the year leading up to Mayweather
03/12/2011 Antonio Margarito 38-7 Won TKO 12
12/03/2011 Ricardo Mayorga 29-7 Won RTD 9

Boxa or Mundine, you can quite clearly see that the likes of Jones/Gunner is not going to cut it here. The only trend in these stats is fighting top quality opponents is the ONLY way, and the trend says that Mayweather will then take notice.

Point made.

[Hounddawg]

Well said.


Mundine has already been told this by Mayweather Snr....

[fox]

Yeah the fights were one sided but wasn't that bad of night. See a lot of worse shows that's for sure. With a couple of opponent changes it really wasn't that bad. We can all see Choc is not going to match it with the top dogs, but seriously who in Australia will. He is still one of the best we have got. Lets hope Alex can land with clean and bring the Heavyweight Title home. Even the ugly fights on paper didn't turn out too bad last night.

[AntonS]

Yeah the fights were one sided but wasn't that bad of night. See a lot of worse shows that's for sure. With a couple of opponent changes it really wasn't that bad. We can all see Choc is not going to match it with the top dogs, but seriously who in Australia will. He is still one of the best we have got. Lets hope Alex can land with clean and bring the Heavyweight Title home. Even the ugly fights on paper didn't turn out too bad last night.

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