Prime Gerald McClellan vs. a prime Sugar Ray Robinson?

[scallum]

The Love Boat lol

[Controversial]

A guy who with a competent referee would have beaten Benn in the first round (only person I've seen say otherwise is keithmoonhangover - a very pro Euro poster). And then after getting screwed over starts to have a blood clot in his brain and still is able to drop Benn again and only took a knee to be counted out (didn't even get truly taken out - just couldn't handle the clot any more) and you guys want to hold that against him? That's fvcked up

Benn stood back up, he wasn't knocked out and managed to survive the round. Lots said about the ref but in the heat of the moment I can't see he done much wrong, I certainly seen much worse refs. Benn fought back and was landing flush leaping left hooks, McClellan couldn't get out the way from them, if not for the knockdowns Benn was ahead on the scorecards.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It must be your rose tinted glasses.

Golovkin would slaughter McClellan.

Hahahaha funniest post you've ever had.

Go ahead and put the sleep, eye roll or laugh emoticon

No need for emoticons, Golovkin > McClellan.

[Tomasino]

Have you seen the fights where Gerald "lost"?

No, you haven't.

The fight that he lost against Ralph Ward was in Atlantic City, NJ. The scores were 77-75, 76-75, 76-75 and Ward was from Atlantic City, NJ so since no footage of the film exists no one can say for certain that the loss to Ward & Milton were legitimate.

And I wouldn't say those fights were in his prime any way.

Carlos Monzon had two early losses as well to complete no names - it happens.

Here's a guy [Gerald] that :

By all accounts handled Roy in the '88 Golden Gloves Semi-Finals.

Has footage of him sparring a very prime James Toney where you can tell they're going 100% and he does more than hold his own.

A guy who took Julian Jackson's best shots with no problems and then took him out savage-like.

A guy who holds the record for fastest defense of any recognized MW title.

A guy who took out Gilbert Baptist in the first - some thing that no one ever did (I'm sure people will go 'oh but he was a late replacement!'). Baptist had just recently given Hopkins & Lamar Parks very tough fights.

A guy that took Julian Jackson out in the first round - again some thing no ever did.

A guy who with a competent referee would have beaten Benn in the first round (only person I've seen say otherwise is keithmoonhangover - a very pro Euro poster). And then after getting screwed over starts to have a blood clot in his brain and still is able to drop Benn again and only took a knee to be counted out (didn't even get truly taken out - just couldn't handle the clot any more) and you guys want to hold that against him? That's fvcked up

Again unless you are hoping for a blood clot to develop there is no way SRR ever stops Gerald.

I'm finding it pretty repulsive you keep referring to his brain injury. Your obviously hanging out of his ass but I think you are kicking and screaming a bit too much here.

[Controversial]

You mean like how Asaro for no good reason stood in between Gerald TWICE?

You truly believe the fight wouldn't get stopped by any other legitimate ref?

Come on now

Who knows, you cannot make assumptions. Benn was the type of fighter who got caught and hurt, Logan had him down and hurt in the 1st, Benn fought back and knocked him out in the 2nd. Thats how Benn was, a wounded lion who was at his most dangerous. He got up and got back into the fight, fair play to him. Of course with hindsight all sort of things can be called into account but for me it was a great fight that ended tragically. I honestly don't remember thinking anything about the ref at the time, all this stuff came out afterwards. I'm sure if McClellan won nothing would have been made of it.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Hahahaha funniest post you've ever had.

Go ahead and put the sleep, eye roll or laugh emoticon

No need for emoticons, Golovkin > McClellan.

May be true, but I have to see more of GGG to have a definite opinion.

As of right now - absolutely not.

GGG is a more powerful Bute at the moment. I'll be sure to come back and say I was wrong if he does big things and I'll be sure to be a douche bag and laugh if he loses to any one at MW other than Martinez

Bute? That's the most ridiculous analogy I've ever read.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Wow what a ridiculous analogy to say GGG is similar to being a more powerful Bute

No doubt, it was outlandish.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Too predictable.

Troll away buddy.

Yeah, everyone that disagrees with your McClellan nuthugging has to be trolling.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Yep.

Saad just curious what did my last post about Bute and GGG have to do with McClellan?

Again just curious . . .

Also if you don't constantly troll how is it that every time I can predict what your response will be?

(Cue the I must stalk you routine)

It all started with my opinion that Golovkin is better than McClellan, that set your wheels in motion. If I'm such a predictable troll, why indulge me? I don't talk to myself.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Because there are times where you can actually be valuable in a boxing conversation.

And then other times you just troll because you know you can.

Do you think GGG is the MW kingpin and that no one can beat him?

LOL, so you choose to talk to me when you consider me trolling? That doesn't make any sense.

I think Golovkin is the best Middleweight in the world by a large margin. Nobody is unbeatable. Sergio would have no chance at all.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Excellent.

Let's do a BoxRec bet. If Martinez/Golovkin comes off and Martinez wins for your next 365 posts after that you'll finish your post with "my mother should have swallowed me" and vice versa if Golovkin wins.

Deal?

Sergio is never going to fight him, but if he does we can do a user name change. I'm not typing something additional for every post. Not to mention that would only affect me for a week.

I'd also be betting a grand or two on it.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

So it's a no deal. All that was needed - thanks for the story.

[Tomasino]

We all have our favourites