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Probably worth mentioning Fury was fully clothed when he weighed in.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:
The Insider wrote:Fury just weighed in at a career heaviest of 19st 8lb!!!!!

Hmmmmmm, na, he'll still win.........won't he????????
Abell stoppage 16/1. Guy knocked down Pulev...

Think how much of a useless slob Fury looked when he was that heavy in the past. If Abell goes for it, he could easily catch that shaky chin with something. I'm gonna put a cheeky 20 on Abell 1-3 at 30/1.

Actually scratch that, Fury to get knocked down is enough for me at 6/1 and some speculative early round bets for Abell.

Im a big fury fan but that is a really bad weight. HAS to be worth a bet.
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Bastard pudenda at Paddy have screened my bets on certain results.

Why do they do this? If you don't want to take my money, price it shorter and I'll go elsewhere!!!
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Riddick Blowe wrote:Bastard pudenda at Paddy have screened my bets on certain results.

Why do they do this? If you don't want to take my money, price it shorter and I'll go elsewhere!!!
Take it as a compliment Riddick, they do it at three books for me, sometimes to win as little as £200, its because you know what your doing mate, I always smile/talk sweetly and accept what they
offer me, at least that way they seem to let me keep getting on even though my amounts are lessened
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Riddick Blowe wrote:Bastard pudenda at Paddy have screened my bets on certain results.

Why do they do this? If you don't want to take my money, price it shorter and I'll go elsewhere!!!
Bet365 are the worst for this. Had a couple of big accumulators come in and had a really good month then it was like doing the Krypton factor to get a bet on. I just went to Boyle sports (who I'm sure were owns by the same company) in the end and give it a couple of months and I was welcomed back with open arms. one thimg i will say is though is that bet365 will listen to a complaint and I've actually had losing bets overturned.
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Yeah, Someone told me a few years ago that the best books for actually taking bets (which is, y'know, kinda what a bookie is supposed to do) is Boyle and sporting bet I think.

the books should accept the amount you want to bet and then by all means shorten the odds accordingly afterwards. I would understand if I was trying to bet thousands and thousands but I'm not! It's pretty pathetic to be honest and seems to be saying 'we have no faith in our oddsmakers'

I don't hold accounts with the above books but I'm going to sign up for their bonuses along with 888 and a few others so I can load up on Terence Crawford and spend the free bets on accumulators.
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domjon wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:
The Insider wrote:Fury just weighed in at a career heaviest of 19st 8lb!!!!!

Hmmmmmm, na, he'll still win.........won't he????????
Abell stoppage 16/1. Guy knocked down Pulev...

Think how much of a useless slob Fury looked when he was that heavy in the past. If Abell goes for it, he could easily catch that shaky chin with something. I'm gonna put a cheeky 20 on Abell 1-3 at 30/1.

Actually scratch that, Fury to get knocked down is enough for me at 6/1 and some speculative early round bets for Abell.

Im a big fury fan but that is a really bad weight. HAS to be worth a bet.
I think he had bricks in his pockets to fool the bookies so he can put a big bet on himself.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:Abell stoppage 16/1. Guy knocked down Pulev...
I'd never say bet or don't bet to anyone but using 'Guy knocked down Pulev' as your reasoning is shaky based on the fact it was more a case of Pulev getting his feet square and close and being knocked off balance. He wasn't hurt at all.
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Aden wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Abell stoppage 16/1. Guy knocked down Pulev...
I'd never say bet or don't bet to anyone but using 'Guy knocked down Pulev' as your reasoning is shaky based on the fact it was more a case of Pulev getting his feet square and close and being knocked off balance. He wasn't hurt at all.
Fury squares his feet up in close regularly as well, Pajkic and Cunningham both caught him like that and Abell can punch, plus Tyson doesn't look to be in great shape, so betting on the knockdown is a good option like Riddick's gone for.
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expe wrote:
Aden wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Abell stoppage 16/1. Guy knocked down Pulev...
I'd never say bet or don't bet to anyone but using 'Guy knocked down Pulev' as your reasoning is shaky based on the fact it was more a case of Pulev getting his feet square and close and being knocked off balance. He wasn't hurt at all.
Fury squares his feet up in close regularly as well, Pajkic and Cunningham both caught him like that and Abell can punch, plus Tyson doesn't look to be in great shape, so betting on the knockdown is a good option like Riddick's gone for.
I've went for the same bet for the following reasons;

- Fury has admitted he has had a poor training camp
- he is relatively inexperienced v southpaws
- he has been down before a few times
- Abell has a decent ko record
- Fury's weight doesn't look to be the best
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The Insider wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Bastard pudenda at Paddy have screened my bets on certain results.

Why do they do this? If you don't want to take my money, price it shorter and I'll go elsewhere!!!
Bet365 are the worst for this. Had a couple of big accumulators come in and had a really good month then it was like doing the Krypton factor to get a bet on. I just went to Boyle sports (who I'm sure were owns by the same company) in the end and give it a couple of months and I was welcomed back with open arms. one thimg i will say is though is that bet365 will listen to a complaint and I've actually had losing bets overturned.
I had one bookie that have limited my bets to 17p! Ridiculous
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ThereByTheGrace wrote:
expe wrote:Fury squares his feet up in close regularly as well, Pajkic and Cunningham both caught him like that and Abell can punch, plus Tyson doesn't look to be in great shape, so betting on the knockdown is a good option like Riddick's gone for.
I've went for the same bet for the following reasons;

- Fury has admitted he has had a poor training camp
- he is relatively inexperienced v southpaws
- he has been down before a few times
- Abell has a decent ko record
- Fury's weight doesn't look to be the best
We'll see. I personally don't think Abell has been brought in to try and win, allegedly have a lot riding on Fury - Chisora 2. I think he'll show nothing and go over early.
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Aden wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:
expe wrote:Fury squares his feet up in close regularly as well, Pajkic and Cunningham both caught him like that and Abell can punch, plus Tyson doesn't look to be in great shape, so betting on the knockdown is a good option like Riddick's gone for.
I've went for the same bet for the following reasons;

- Fury has admitted he has had a poor training camp
- he is relatively inexperienced v southpaws
- he has been down before a few times
- Abell has a decent ko record
- Fury's weight doesn't look to be the best
We'll see. I personally don't think Abell has been brought in to try and win, allegedly have a lot riding on Fury - Chisora 2. I think he'll show nothing and go over early.
:TU:

Abell, from what I've seen of him, has no punch resistance whatsoever.

Also: I suffered through Christian Hammer (big flabby German-domiciled Romanian who flattened Danny Williams--I know, who hasn't, right?) vs Johnson just now. Typical Johnson fare. Two jabs a round & the occasional smooth move off the ropes. If Dereck's up for it he should hammer the big useless lump.

He must be one of the few fighters who has a trainer who is more entertaining than the fighter; & you can always, always hear them during the rounds of a Johnson fight, because the crowd is always funereally hushed.
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Datsue wrote:
:TU:

Abell, from what I've seen of him, has no punch resistance whatsoever.

Also: I suffered through Christian Hammer (big flabby German-domiciled Romanian who flattened Danny Williams--I know, who hasn't, right?) vs Johnson just now. Typical Johnson fare. Two jabs a round & the occasional smooth move off the ropes. If Dereck's up for it he should hammer the big useless lump.

He must be one of the few fighters who has a trainer who is more entertaining than the fighter; & you can always, always hear them during the rounds of a Johnson fight, because the crowd is always funereally hushed.
Uncanny, as I've just had Fury inside 3 and Chisora stoppage. Also had a few outrageous ones as the temptation is just too much.

So much for not betting this weekend. Nothing serious but it gives you summat to cheer for.
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I'm still weighing up:

clearly brought in to lose
being talked up by Bunce/BN
lost against anyone half decent inside the distance
clubfighter status

vs

Fury's terrible shape/weight/rapid decline since Christmas/Haye cancellation
The distractions/PR spin (arson, wife, that "cut" and so on)
Still seems to be harping on about Haye

Don't get me wrong, he should dust this guy in a couple of rounds but if he's basically got that in his head, what's he going to do after 5-6 rounds when he hasn't and he's blowing.

I'd expect him to come out swinging and fold at the first sign of anything meaningful
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Of the outcomes of Chisora/Johnson, I really can't see the Del stoppage despite what folk say about home cooking.

I expect the fight to be fought at the pace of a slug on barbiturates with Del winning by default by at least throwing some punches but mostly on arms and elbows.

And yeah the Fury fight...Tyson just doesn't seem right for this one. I've had a few punts on variations involving Abell early KO and Fury to be dropped just for the value available but Abell is still a bit of a patsy. I wish he was fighting a better trial horse like Dom Guinn who would take his lardy ass into the late rounds, would have been a lot more confident betting on a solid type like Guinn.
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Fury to be knocked down at 11/2 (Paddy Power) is a fun bet, he can get really sloppy defensively when he's out of shape.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:Of the outcomes of Chisora/Johnson, I really can't see the Del stoppage despite what folk say about home cooking.

I expect the fight to be fought at the pace of a slug on barbiturates with Del winning by default by at least throwing some punches but mostly on arms and elbows.

And yeah the Fury fight...Tyson just doesn't seem right for this one. I've had a few punts on variations involving Abell early KO and Fury to be dropped just for the value available but Abell is still a bit of a patsy. I wish he was fighting a better trial horse like Dom Guinn who would take his lardy ass into the late rounds, would have been a lot more confident betting on a solid type like Guinn.
Chisora points is like printing money, Johnson won't come to win, but he ain't getting stopped either, almost guaranteed it will go the full 12.
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expe wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Of the outcomes of Chisora/Johnson, I really can't see the Del stoppage despite what folk say about home cooking.

I expect the fight to be fought at the pace of a slug on barbiturates with Del winning by default by at least throwing some punches but mostly on arms and elbows.

And yeah the Fury fight...Tyson just doesn't seem right for this one. I've had a few punts on variations involving Abell early KO and Fury to be dropped just for the value available but Abell is still a bit of a patsy. I wish he was fighting a better trial horse like Dom Guinn who would take his lardy ass into the late rounds, would have been a lot more confident betting on a solid type like Guinn.
Chisora points is like printing money, Johnson won't come to win, but he ain't getting stopped either, almost guaranteed it will go the full 12.
That's what I thought at first, then changed my mind a few times and now I'm back on the Chisora PTS train.

I placed a £10 accumulator at odds of 1043/1, definitely the most speculative bet I've ever placed:

Chisora decision
Shafikov
Crawford
Abell KO 1-5
Wlad decision

:-? :) Basically banking on Fleshy Fury to lose his mind in there early doors and Wlad to hug, spoil and safety-first his way to another turgid decision. Stranger things have happened :)
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I'm liking Fury Abell under 8 rounds and Chisora 8-12 or Pts which Skybet are doing as a special at 2-1.
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Ronners wrote:I'm liking Fury Abell under 8 rounds and Chisora 8-12 or Pts which Skybet are doing as a special at 2-1.
Looks good
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Riddick Blowe wrote:
expe wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:Of the outcomes of Chisora/Johnson, I really can't see the Del stoppage despite what folk say about home cooking.

I expect the fight to be fought at the pace of a slug on barbiturates with Del winning by default by at least throwing some punches but mostly on arms and elbows.

And yeah the Fury fight...Tyson just doesn't seem right for this one. I've had a few punts on variations involving Abell early KO and Fury to be dropped just for the value available but Abell is still a bit of a patsy. I wish he was fighting a better trial horse like Dom Guinn who would take his lardy ass into the late rounds, would have been a lot more confident betting on a solid type like Guinn.
Chisora points is like printing money, Johnson won't come to win, but he ain't getting stopped either, almost guaranteed it will go the full 12.
That's what I thought at first, then changed my mind a few times and now I'm back on the Chisora PTS train.

I placed a £10 accumulator at odds of 1043/1, definitely the most speculative bet I've ever placed:

Chisora decision
Shafikov
Crawford
Abell KO 1-5
Wlad decision

:-? :) Basically banking on Fleshy Fury to lose his mind in there early doors and Wlad to hug, spoil and safety-first his way to another turgid decision. Stranger things have happened :)
Chisora points is nailed on and Shafikov could beat Vasquez and I suppose Crawford could beat Burns, but I don't think he will, Abell could do Fury and if anyone's going to lose it in the ring it's him, but I think Wlad will knock Leapai out, even Kevin Johnson managed to stop him. Good luck with it though, a lot of money if it comes off.
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Yeah I have another one minus the Wlad fight at 129/1 :)

I thought at the time Wlad is so safety first these days and might just do his jab and hug routine and Leapai hangs in there for a terribly dull fight, but in hindsight I can't see a guy like Leapai seeing the final bell.
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Riddick Blowe wrote:Yeah I have another one minus the Wlad fight at 129/1 :)

I thought at the time Wlad is so safety first these days and might just do his jab and hug routine and Leapai hangs in there for a terribly dull fight, but in hindsight I can't see a guy like Leapai seeing the final bell.
The jab would probably be enough for Leapai, can't see Wlad missing with it once, for all his failings technically he is excellent and very heavy handed, Leapai will probably take too many and be ground down, maybe around the 8th round.
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No bets for me tonight, but I've got a feeling that Chisora-Johnson is going to be a really good fight.
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