Marty Marshall 'The Michigan Bomber' & 'Liston Jaw-Breaker'

[BoxBuzz]

Hey Mr DooDooChoo

How do you KNOW what punch fractured Sonny's Jaw? Was there a motion picture Xray camera in use during this fight? A long range Fluoroscope perhaps?

[BoxBuzz]

So....Did Sonny confirm this? Or are you taking Marty's word for it?

Just curious what you are using to "settle this matter" in your mind.

[BoxBuzz]

I just wondered if Sonny chimed in.

Your taking Marty's word for it. Not that it's wrong. But only Sonny could bring the facts to light.


What If I said that you were a baloney peddler?

Could we assume it to be true simply because I said it? Even if a bunch of other people chimed in and agreed with me?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Why did he use his left glove to touch the right side of his jaw? And why didn't Marshall smash him with a right hand when he did it?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Why did he use his left glove to touch the right side of his jaw? And why didn't Marshall smash him with a right hand when he did it?

Marty Marshall >
'Sonny kept his right-hand always 'cocked' in the first fight, and I wouldn't get in close enough to let him
throw it. Even when I shook him, I was always worried about him throwing it. He was much bigger than me.'

That's not really an answer. You couldn't throw a right hand with anything on it while your left glove was pressed to the right side of your jaw.

[Giancarlo]

Why did he use his left glove to touch the right side of his jaw? And why didn't Marshall smash him with a right hand when he did it?

Marty Marshall >
'Sonny kept his right-hand always 'cocked' in the first fight, and I wouldn't get in close enough to let him
throw it. Even when I shook him, I was always worried about him throwing it. He was much bigger than me.'

That's not really an answer. You couldn't throw a right hand with anything on it while your left glove was pressed to the right side of your jaw.

Good point.

I guess Benito didn't think of that when he made up that 'quote'.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I guess you never fought against Sonny Liston.......

The man was capable of some amazing things.........

Defying physics wasn't one of them. I'd gladly fight Sonny Liston if he promised to remain like that. I'd win.

[BoxBuzz]

Ill DooChoo....

you are often entertaining
you are on occasion interesting
you discuss some topics of interest
you are seldom believable even when I agree with you
you almost never answer a question directly
you cite some very questionable sources
you often post a "source" that when one follows up, it's nothing more than a dead end, red herring.
you post quotes...i say QUOTES that you yourself have admitted later were "embellished".
(A QUOTE can not be "embellished"....That is called fiction, a hoax, a lie, baloney, BS, or my favorite....HOGWASH.)

And when you serve up HOGWASH I agree with....I almost want to change my position on the subject, as it becomes embarrassing that I find myself in agreement with you. Even if I have come to such conclusions based on good information.

When I don't believe you, I like to call you on it, but you don't directly engage with my criticism.

And this is why you tend to piss me off on occasion.

I take responsibility for this, As I choose to read what you offer, and hope to better learn just how slick a baloney peddler can be. This is a skill everyone should pursue with enthusiasm, as it will serve one well for a lifetime.

So for this I thank you for your ongoing contributions.

Giancarlo doesn't appreciate your brand of bullshit. Nor does HH. Glgamesh as well. You apparently ran evenrb off with it. But that's because they have no tolerance for such things as deception, double dealing, disingenuous engagement, or the other black arts. They have never practiced or heard of such clever behavior, and have little exposure to the developed technique of duplicity or trickery. They are shocked at such monkey business, and want anyone who practices it to be burned at the stake for practicing witchcraft.

I on the other hand being a forgiving soul want to study, dissect and find out what makes such things tick. It is my hope that you will donate yourself to science for various experiments that may shed light on the reason people engage in such shenanigans This as a gift to future generations.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

So Evren left the forum because of the poster that 90% of his posts were directed at?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Damn Buzz, I enjoyed that post. It was a humorous analogy.

[BoxBuzz]

So Evren left the forum because of the poster that 90% of his posts were directed at?

I'm tellin ya, you can't make this crap up. It's like me going to my neighbors lawn, sleeping on his grass....every night for a week, and then complaining to him that I don't like his damn grass....it's not comfortable to sleep on.

I go back for days on end, reminding him how uncomfortable his grass is to sleep on.....i even complain to the neighbors about it, I call a landscaper and he comes out and suggests that perhaps I should not sleep on that lawn any more........ I threaten to leave the neighborhood if the landscaper does not fix it.

The landscaper refuses to fix the grass, The neigbor with the "bad grass" refuses to take action on his own and chooses to keep his grass "as is".

I leave the neighborhood.

[BoxBuzz]

I took it down, but put it back up with a little "landscape change" lol.

[BoxBuzz]

I am perplexed.

Well.....that explains it!

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I took it down, but put it back up with a little "landscape change" lol.

It's really astonishing, Duce this, Duce that, Ban Duce, I hate Duce, etc...

Yet somehow these complaints are all about how Duce is ruining the forum when he is at least discussing Boxing while they are discussing him.

[BoxBuzz]

I am perplexed.

Well.....that explains it!

I'll give you a hint. You may well have bad grass.

[BoxBuzz]

I took it down, but put it back up with a little "landscape change" lol.

It's really astonishing, Duce this, Duce that, Ban Duce, I hate Duce, etc...

Yet somehow these complaints are all about how Duce is ruining the forum when he is at least discussing Boxing while they are discussing him.

Saad,

They all jumped on my threads, and complained. Not one ever offered up a compelling statement about Boxing.

Dr. Buzz is at least witty.

It must be that dry 'New England' but sometimes expanding thought provoking inner voice.

Inner voice? Is that the same one that provides you all of your sources?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I took it down, but put it back up with a little "landscape change" lol.

It's really astonishing, Duce this, Duce that, Ban Duce, I hate Duce, etc...

Yet somehow these complaints are all about how Duce is ruining the forum when he is at least discussing Boxing while they are discussing him.

Saad,

They all jumped on my threads, and complained. Not one ever offered up a compelling statement about Boxing.

Dr. Buzz is at least witty.

It must be that dry 'New England' but sometimes expanding thought provoking inner voice.

Hey, I choose to skip most of your threads. That doesn't change the fact that there is no valid reason for you to be banned. This place isn't missing a thing without ThatOne, Klompton or Evren whining like schoolgirls.

You do really need to alter the Marshall quote to Liston held his right hand to his jaw. I'm just looking out for you.

[BoxBuzz]

He runs truth to fiction ratio......I'm sure to change that quote would alter the formula.

[scorpio83]

Il Duce, Bob Satterfield does not stand at 6'2", but he stood at 5'10". Look at the YouTube video between him and Ezzard Charles. Charles stood at 6'0" and Satterfield stood 2 inches shorter. I am just telling you the correction of his height.

[scorpio83]

I think that I am the one that asked the person who put the height to change Satterfield's height to 5'10" on records and queries section, but they did not replied and wrote correction was fixed.