Chris Byrd,Michael Moorer,Larry Donald.

[AngryGoon38]

Where do they stand as far as vs. other Very Good and Great Heavyweights ? Very interesting and Disappointing they never fought one another,as any vs scenario would've made great bouts amongst these three. They all fought in the 90's and were right around equal to one another yet they never matched these three relatively equal heavies. I think Byrd would win against Moorer. His speed and workrate would prevail,it'd be an interesting style bout undoubtably. On the other hand,I could see Moorer beating Donald but Donald beating Byrd for some reason. It would be amongst Styles make fights lists. For some reason these 3 popped into my mind so i decided to make this particular thread.

I think Donald would have the style to stymie David Tua,at least to a good extent and the fight would likely go the distance.Interesting that i picture this and Tua Easily Ko'd Moorer but i would predict Moorer over Donald based on styles.Byrd would likely go the distance with Tua as well.I think Tua would win a narrow decision over Donald but lose a narrow decision to Byrd. Here again,an example of styles make fights as i'd personally favor Donald to be likely Besting/decisioning Byrd,once again,based on the particular intricate styles that are clashing.
I'm now going to make another thread about another curiosity i've had in mind lately. :geek2:

[gilgamesh]

Michael Moorer is far and away the best of the bunch.

Chris Byrd is a pretty good, but not great Heavyweight.

Larry Donald was never much more than a fringe contender even on his best days, in a fairly weak era.


As for how they'd do against Very Good or Great Heavyweights from the past. I don't think they'd be successful all that often. Depends on the matchups I guess.

[drunkenpiper36]

I for one am not too disappointed that Larry Donald and Chris Byrd never met. That would have been a snooze fest to say the least. As far as who was the best between Byrd, Donald, and Moorer? I'm inclined to going with Rapid fire. He was a good boxer, with decent stamina and a fair to average chin. I think he could outpoint Moorer and probably do better against some common opponents as well.

[gilgamesh]

I for one am not too disappointed that Larry Donald and Chris Byrd never met. That would have been a snooze fest to say the least. As far as who was the best between Byrd, Donald, and Moorer? I'm inclined to going with Rapid fire. He was a good boxer, with decent stamina and a fair to average chin. I think he could outpoint Moorer and probably do better against some common opponents as well.

Who is Rapid Fire? Is that Byrd's nickname?

[drunkenpiper36]

yep

[gilgamesh]

yep

It wouldn't shock me if Byrd could outpoint Moorer, but personally I'd favor Moorer to win that fight.

[drunkenpiper36]

yep

It wouldn't shock me if Byrd could outpoint Moorer, but personally I'd favor Moorer to win that fight.

Its definitely possible. Neither of these men were what I'd call " out of the other's league." So Moorer could have won. I myself just think Byrd was a faster and more skilled fighter and had at least enough durability to make it to the final bell while leading on the punch stats. Moorer was fun to watch when I was a kid and in truth had a decent career. But he's become overrated in boxing discussions over the past decade. His power at light heavy was divine.. But above 200 lbs, he wasn't as devastating as people make him out to be. He had a lot of flat performances and showed some glaring defects.. Chris was no ATG to be sure.. But I do think he was a bit better than Moorer.

[drunkenpiper36]

Byrd would likely go the distance with Tua as well. :geek2:

You are aware that David Tua and Chris Byrd actually DID fight?

[gilgamesh]

Byrd would likely go the distance with Tua as well. :geek2:

You are aware that David Tua and Chris Byrd actually DID fight?

Yep Byrd W12 pretty clear-cut. Byrd would always go the distance pretty much if he was to be the winner of the bout. Usually the only way his fights ended inside the distance is if he was on the receiving end of a KO.

At least Top level opponents. Byrd KO'ed some mediocre guys here and there, but I don't see him KO'ing any top level fighter.

[Bobbyptsd]

As much as I like Byrd, I could see Moorer catching him like Ike did.

If not, it might win a SD kind of fight either way. But if it were happening tomorrow and both were at their best, my money would be on Micheal, pains me to say.

[scorpio83]

I strongly agree with you gilamesh, Moorer is the best for the three followed by Byrd. Larry Donald doesn't have the right to have the nickname "The Legend" because like you said, he's nothing but a fringe contender. Donald should be called Larry "No So Legend" Donald and the real Larry Legend is "The Easton Assassin" Larry "The Real Legend" Holmes.

[polecateddy]

If Moorer had faced Bryd post-Holyfield 2, he would have been soundly outpointed. Moorer's peak was v brief! Donald had a good jab but was never fashionable enough to get anywhere. Basically a poor man's Henry Akinwande.

[Ambling Alp II]

Moorer had a weak chin, but overall was the best of the 3. He had the most power and had by far the best offense. Byrd had almost no power, but was pretty good (though a bit overrated) defensively. Donald actaully had some talent, but for some reason he seldom got into many high profile fights. He had good boxing skills, but often did not throw enough punches.

Moorer was a bit better better than Byrd, Byrd slightly over Donald but it is closer than many people would have them.

[drunkenpiper36]

Moorer had a weak chin, but overall was the best of the 3. He had the most power and had by far the best offense. Byrd had almost no power, but was pretty good (though a bit overrated) defensively. Donald actaully had some talent, but for some reason he seldom got into many high profile fights. He had good boxing skills, but often did not throw enough punches.

Moorer was a bit better better than Byrd, Byrd slightly over Donald but it is closer than many people would have them.

Why is Moorer having more power than Byrd even relevant though? Byrd's fighting style wasn't that of a puncher.

[Ambling Alp II]

Having punching power is relevant because it gives you a better chance to win if you can hurt the other guy. You might stop/ko him, score more points if you land harder punches, and you may keep an aggrressive opponent at bay if he knows you can hurt him.

If Byrd had some punching power, he may have been able to stop Wladimir Klitschko.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Byrd would likely go the distance with Tua as well. :geek2:

You are aware that David Tua and Chris Byrd actually DID fight?

Yep Byrd W12 pretty clear-cut. Byrd would always go the distance pretty much if he was to be the winner of the bout. Usually the only way his fights ended inside the distance is if he was on the receiving end of a KO.

At least Top level opponents. Byrd KO'ed some mediocre guys here and there, but I don't see him KO'ing any top level fighter.

Pretty clear cut? I haven't seen it since it was live but I recall a complete white washing. 12-0.

[drunkenpiper36]

Having punching power is relevant because it gives you a better chance to win if you can hurt the other guy. You might stop/ko him, score more points if you land harder punches, and you may keep an aggrressive opponent at bay if he knows you can hurt him.

If Byrd had some punching power, he may have been able to stop Wladimir Klitschko.

Not trying to be a pain in the ass here, but I just don't see why its relevant that Moorer had more punching power than Byrd. By that Logic George Foreman should have beaten Jimmy Young. Byrd was a long range boxer, who out pointed his foes, and he actually proved that he could do this against a dangerous hitter in David Tua. Not sure that Moorer ever beat a good technician at heavyweight. Now at light heavyweight he came from behind to stop a pretty good boxer in Lesley Stewart but that was in a different weight class against a lesser man than Byrd. For the record, I don't think either of these guys were much better than the other, and for all I know, Moorer might very well have gotten him out of there. But Chris was not easy to stop, and could outpoint a man pretty soundly. Moorer had his fair share of lackluster showings at heavyweight too.. Guess its a tossup.

[gilgamesh]

Yep Byrd W12 pretty clear-cut. Byrd would always go the distance pretty much if he was to be the winner of the bout. Usually the only way his fights ended inside the distance is if he was on the receiving end of a KO.

At least Top level opponents. Byrd KO'ed some mediocre guys here and there, but I don't see him KO'ing any top level fighter.

Pretty clear cut? I haven't seen it since it was live but I recall a complete white washing. 12-0.

I never saw it at all, just read about it in The Ring Magazine. It was Byrd's last fight before I started tuning in and following the sport. I always read that Byrd controlled the bout easily and embarrassed Tua.

I've never felt the need to go back and watch it. I can imagine it in my head.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Yep Byrd W12 pretty clear-cut. Byrd would always go the distance pretty much if he was to be the winner of the bout. Usually the only way his fights ended inside the distance is if he was on the receiving end of a KO.

At least Top level opponents. Byrd KO'ed some mediocre guys here and there, but I don't see him KO'ing any top level fighter.

Pretty clear cut? I haven't seen it since it was live but I recall a complete white washing. 12-0.

I never saw it at all, just read about it in The Ring Magazine. It was Byrd's last fight before I started tuning in and following the sport. I always read that Byrd controlled the bout easily and embarrassed Tua.

I've never felt the need to go back and watch it. I can imagine it in my head.

Yeah, Tua didn't land anything of note.

[gilgamesh]

I never saw it at all, just read about it in The Ring Magazine. It was Byrd's last fight before I started tuning in and following the sport. I always read that Byrd controlled the bout easily and embarrassed Tua.

I've never felt the need to go back and watch it. I can imagine it in my head.

Yeah, Tua didn't land anything of note.

Is it true that at one point in the bout Byrd hurt Tua with a bodyshot?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I never saw it at all, just read about it in The Ring Magazine. It was Byrd's last fight before I started tuning in and following the sport. I always read that Byrd controlled the bout easily and embarrassed Tua.

I've never felt the need to go back and watch it. I can imagine it in my head.

Yeah, Tua didn't land anything of note.

Is it true that at one point in the bout Byrd hurt Tua with a bodyshot?

I don't recall that, I just remembered David not winning a round. He was getting shutout by Oquendo before he caught him too. While nobody calls him great, he's still vastly overrated.

[drunkenpiper36]

While nobody calls him great, he's still vastly overrated.

Agreed. He never fought a guy like Gerry Cooney. That's how you have to judge these things. His chin is ranked by many as being one of the best, but it never felt the chivalry of the Gentleman.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

While nobody calls him great, he's still vastly overrated.

Agreed. He never fought a guy like Gerry Cooney. That's how you have to judge these things. His chin is ranked by many as being one of the best, but it never felt the chivalry of the Gentleman.

[gilgamesh]

While nobody calls him great, he's still vastly overrated.

Agreed. He never fought a guy like Gerry Cooney. That's how you have to judge these things. His chin is ranked by many as being one of the best, but it never felt the chivalry of the Gentleman.

Tua KO 7 Gerry Cooney

[drunkenpiper36]

While nobody calls him great, he's still vastly overrated.

Agreed. He never fought a guy like Gerry Cooney. That's how you have to judge these things. His chin is ranked by many as being one of the best, but it never felt the chivalry of the Gentleman.

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