Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by palooka »

JamieM wrote:No involvement in drugs billy? Didn't your gym get raided ? Police don't raid places and wasted et for nothing , maybe nothing found but you have related yourself to drugs for them to that. Another thing
Billy you were in papers saying you invested 20 grand in that new gym yet you just walked away fr it to go back to a barn? Lies billy!!! Dodgy
Scottish boxing looks to be a vipers nest and if someone phoned the police with a load of bollocks then they still have to go out and check; if there were drugs there then the dogs would have found them.
Crazyboy
Cruiserweight
Posts: 1246
Joined: 12 Nov 2010, 11:56

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by Crazyboy »

JamieM wrote:No involvement in drugs billy? Didn't your gym get raided ? Police don't raid places and wasted et for nothing , maybe nothing found but you have related yourself to drugs for them to that. Another thing
Billy you were in papers saying you invested 20 grand in that new gym yet you just walked away fr it to go back to a barn? Lies billy!!! Dodgy
God its painful all this.....can't you lot get a room???

It always turns personal and its literally nothing to do with anyone else.

Its a public boxing forum not a school playground.
Alba
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 1944
Joined: 28 Jul 2009, 16:05

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by Alba »

palooka wrote:
JamieM wrote:No involvement in drugs billy? Didn't your gym get raided ? Police don't raid places and wasted et for nothing , maybe nothing found but you have related yourself to drugs for them to that. Another thing
Billy you were in papers saying you invested 20 grand in that new gym yet you just walked away fr it to go back to a barn? Lies billy!!! Dodgy
Scottish boxing looks to be a vipers nest and if someone phoned the police with a load of bollocks then they still have to go out and check; if there were drugs there then the dogs would have found them.
Mate it's not all bad up here , loads of nice folk up here involved in boxing.. They just don't choose to air their dirty laundry in public .
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by palooka »

Alba wrote:
palooka wrote:
JamieM wrote:No involvement in drugs billy? Didn't your gym get raided ? Police don't raid places and wasted et for nothing , maybe nothing found but you have related yourself to drugs for them to that. Another thing
Billy you were in papers saying you invested 20 grand in that new gym yet you just walked away fr it to go back to a barn? Lies billy!!! Dodgy
Scottish boxing looks to be a vipers nest and if someone phoned the police with a load of bollocks then they still have to go out and check; if there were drugs there then the dogs would have found them.
Mate it's not all bad up here , loads of nice folk up here involved in boxing.. They just don't choose to air their dirty laundry in public .
:salut: I can imagine there are some fantastic people involved at every level Alba; it really looks divisive and bitter on here though I imagine a lot is tongue in cheek.
daviddee
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1574
Joined: 01 Feb 2012, 14:32

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by daviddee »

you again have totally contradicted yourself Tadpole,WHEN WAS I OFFERED THE FIGHT AND YOU ANSWERED IT YOURSELF,effing CLASS."Source"HOW MORE RELIABLE CAN YOU GET THAN YOU EX MANAGER, Ronnie stop bullshitting people on here your a good fighter but nowhere near as good as you think you are.
Ive never said john was with me when you were offered the fight TWICe, Simpson knows you were offered it but even now doesnt see any point in fighting you simply coz your not at his level and beating you wouldnt take his career forward.
Ive read you think you will win a world title,come on Ronnie look what happened when you sparred with the big gloves on against a world class fighter, you were hurt with head and body shot several times and you really need to get out the habit of repeateadly saying good shot!when you get hit flush.
You said NO to fighting Simpson end of, you are in no position at all to demand rematches i find that laughable.[/quote]

Let's work this out he had a bad habit of saying good shot. I have seen it so many times and I go mental at him and it's silly but to say he's hurt is crazy. He's smiling when he says it.. Ronnie is like no other fighter in the fact he likes to get hit. I have been in your gym lots of times and never once seen him hurt or rocked.. I can't say that for some of your fighters.. Your on the defensive about Ronnie's sparring with Ricky for some reason?? Would you like to share that with the Boxrec community??

Some wise person before said let them spar again?? Why not Billy make it a open spar and let them where the small gloves?? Ricky shouldn't need to get out of first gear.. Ronnie may talk and we may contribute to it but at the end of the day we are all willing to back up everything we say!! You seem to be a lot of hot air. Like a big ballon[/quote]Your effing unbeleiveable if they had the wee gloves on ronnie would get sparkled,your so effing deluded up there it's unreal.
You just summed it up yourself RONNIE LIKE GETTING HIT!YES HE'S A ONE OFF ALL RIGHT :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

Billy simple question?? Did Ricky get put on his arse when sparring with Ronnie?? Yes or No answer not all this bull shit.. Ricky doesn't have the power to spark Ronnie out. He said good shot with a smile Ricky was raging in between rounds telling you how awkward he was and you were needing to tell him to stick to his jab.. Didn't do much good when Ronnie was beating him to it and rocking him back with the punches.. You need to accept it!! You keep focussing on this good shot that Ronnie says.. It's that good a shot he's able to speak after it and smile.. Fact is Ronnie have as good as he got in sparring you know that and Ricky knows that.. I have never changed my mind on something like this ever but I hope Crawford knocks Ricky spark out!! In my eyes only one person to blame
Ronnie Clark
Middleweight
Posts: 42
Joined: 11 Feb 2014, 15:32

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by Ronnie Clark »

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Ronnie what about a fight with Mitchell Smith on the next Copper Box Bill in April ?
Sounds good get in contact with Tommy Gilmour
mickey1975
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 23200
Joined: 02 Mar 2009, 12:54

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by mickey1975 »

palooka wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:I would like to see Ronnie get the call to face Campbell. A decent step up, yet still a safe win.
Reading this thread I'm not sure who'll win.
Luke, comfortably. Forget the hype, anyone who draws with Walsh and Hughes is getting shut out by Campbell.
daviddee
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1574
Joined: 01 Feb 2012, 14:32

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by daviddee »

Mate it's not all bad up here , loads of nice folk up here involved in boxing.. They just don't choose to air their dirty laundry in public .[/quote]

:salut: I can imagine there are some fantastic people involved at every level Alba; it really looks divisive and bitter on here though I imagine a lot is tongue in cheek.[/quote]


Mate we are not ashamed to say we say things tongue in cheek.. There is have a joke and being disrespectful like Billy Nelson!! He has a big mouth on here and will say anything true or not to make Ricky look good.. This sparring story should never have came out!! Yes Billy wants to lie about what's happening to back us into saying that.. Then he can't even tell the truth.. Now Billy is insecure about what was happening in sparring with Ronnie and was desperate to train him!! Ronnie said no!! Instead of just being respectful to each other like Ronnie was he's trying under handed tactics. This isn't tongue and cheek anymore
expe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6871
Joined: 07 Oct 2012, 10:10

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by expe »

Someone please, please knock Ronnie Clark out in his next fight. End all the bullshit on here for good. And David, do you really think anyone's going to believe that Ronnie fornicating Clark got the better of Ricky Burns, or put him on the floor in sparring, you're talking about a lad who's beaten journeyman, has average power, with big gloves and headguards on, against a man who's been down 5 times in his entire career, 3 of those from body shots while ill and another with a broken jaw, give up with the bullshit man.
JamieM
Cruiserweight
Posts: 1342
Joined: 23 Mar 2011, 18:06

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by JamieM »

Belive it if you want, Ricky got dropped by ronnie Clark with a body shot, the people who matter know the truth!!
daviddee
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1574
Joined: 01 Feb 2012, 14:32

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by daviddee »

expe wrote:Someone please, please knock Ronnie Clark out in his next fight. End all the bullshit on here for good. And David, do you really think anyone's going to believe that Ronnie effing Clark got the better of Ricky Burns, or put him on the floor in sparring, you're talking about a lad who's beaten journeyman, has average power, with big gloves and headguards on, against a man who's been down 5 times in his entire career, 3 of those from body shots while ill and another with a broken jaw, give up with the bullshit man.
Average power haha!! Who are you by the way?? How many profiles do you have?? So many people on here with 4 or 5 profiles.. Have one put your real name and stop hiding behind fake profiles!! It happened go ask Billy privately what his excuse was!! Billy told me what it was!! Or maybe you are Billy Nelson and know the reason
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by palooka »

David - if people do have multiple aliases they get found out quickly and the mods are pretty good at rooting them out and banning them. Using a name other than your own doesn't mean you're being sneaky or underhand - it's personal preference.
daviddee
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1574
Joined: 01 Feb 2012, 14:32

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by daviddee »

palooka wrote:David - if people do have multiple aliases they get found out quickly and the mods are pretty good at rooting them out and banning them. Using a name other than your own doesn't mean you're being sneaky or underhand - it's personal preference.
Mate I know for a fact of a few people doing it and people who say they don't go on Boxrec forum are posting.. It's as simple as having 2 IP addresses.. You have seen the responses on here people take this very serious and would go to any lengths to try and look good!!
expe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6871
Joined: 07 Oct 2012, 10:10

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by expe »

daviddee wrote:
expe wrote:Someone please, please knock Ronnie Clark out in his next fight. End all the bullshit on here for good. And David, do you really think anyone's going to believe that Ronnie effing Clark got the better of Ricky Burns, or put him on the floor in sparring, you're talking about a lad who's beaten journeyman, has average power, with big gloves and headguards on, against a man who's been down 5 times in his entire career, 3 of those from body shots while ill and another with a broken jaw, give up with the bullshit man.
Average power haha!! Who are you by the way?? How many profiles do you have?? So many people on here with 4 or 5 profiles.. Have one put your real name and stop hiding behind fake profiles!! It happened go ask Billy privately what his excuse was!! Billy told me what it was!! Or maybe you are Billy Nelson and know the reason
Yes, average power, 5 stoppage wins in 12 fights, KO% of 41.67, or 50% of wins, is average. I have one profile, if I had another the IP address would be the same and apart from Adamnoob and I assure you I am not him, I don't know of anyone else on here from Preston and certainly no one else that posts on the footy thread about North End. I can also assure you I am not Billy Nelson, I do not dip chips in ice cream and like palooka says, plenty of people, including ex pros don't post under their own name, although they may choose to reveal who they are, don't use their own name on here, it's simply personal preference, we can all be found anyway if someone really wants to find us.
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by palooka »

Though to be fair I've got some ice cream in the freezer and the chippy is 2 minutes away so I may become more like Billy as the evening progresses.
daviddee
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1574
Joined: 01 Feb 2012, 14:32

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by daviddee »

expe wrote:
daviddee wrote:
expe wrote:Someone please, please knock Ronnie Clark out in his next fight. End all the bullshit on here for good. And David, do you really think anyone's going to believe that Ronnie effing Clark got the better of Ricky Burns, or put him on the floor in sparring, you're talking about a lad who's beaten journeyman, has average power, with big gloves and headguards on, against a man who's been down 5 times in his entire career, 3 of those from body shots while ill and another with a broken jaw, give up with the bullshit man.
Average power haha!! Who are you by the way?? How many profiles do you have?? So many people on here with 4 or 5 profiles.. Have one put your real name and stop hiding behind fake profiles!! It happened go ask Billy privately what his excuse was!! Billy told me what it was!! Or maybe you are Billy Nelson and know the reason
Yes, average power, 5 stoppage wins in 12 fights, KO% of 41.67, or 50% of wins, is average. I have one profile, if I had another the IP address would be the same and apart from Adamnoob and I assure you I am not him, I don't know of anyone else on here from Preston and certainly no one else that posts on the footy thread about North End. I can also assure you I am not Billy Nelson, I do not dip chips in ice cream and like palooka says, plenty of people, including ex pros don't post under their own name, although they may choose to reveal who they are, don't use their own name on here, it's simply personal preference, we can all be found anyway if someone really wants to find us.
I can't be bothered about the rest but 5 KO's out of 12?? 2 draws in both fights he had his opponents hurt.. Against Rashid most think it should of been stopped but Rashid is one tough guy!! Ronnie was the first person to put him down!! Against Curran he had him hurt a good few times and IMO without the injured hand he may of stopped him.. Pudisov there was a body shot early that Ronnie hurt his hand on that doubled him over and there was 2 knockdown a in the last not counted.. Sometimes records don't show true power. Ronnie has proper power everyone whose been in the ring with him will tell you that.
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by palooka »

I can agree with that, Lee Selby didn't stop hardly anyone while in learning bouts and showed real power when stepped up; he said he wanted rounds and that the journeymen were highly skilled at getting through - the 'better' boxers were more open to getting caught hard because they open up more.
Final round
Cruiserweight
Posts: 4911
Joined: 20 Oct 2010, 17:02

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by Final round »

Is it true that Ronnie banged out Ricky whilst sparring?
expe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6871
Joined: 07 Oct 2012, 10:10

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by expe »

Final round wrote:Is it true that Ronnie banged out Ricky whilst sparring?
Depends who you believe, personally the idea that Ronnie Clark got the better of and dropped Ricky Burns is preposterous, just doesn't add up, there's a clear difference in class between the two fighters.
expe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6871
Joined: 07 Oct 2012, 10:10

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by expe »

daviddee wrote:
expe wrote:
daviddee wrote:
Average power haha!! Who are you by the way?? How many profiles do you have?? So many people on here with 4 or 5 profiles.. Have one put your real name and stop hiding behind fake profiles!! It happened go ask Billy privately what his excuse was!! Billy told me what it was!! Or maybe you are Billy Nelson and know the reason
Yes, average power, 5 stoppage wins in 12 fights, KO% of 41.67, or 50% of wins, is average. I have one profile, if I had another the IP address would be the same and apart from Adamnoob and I assure you I am not him, I don't know of anyone else on here from Preston and certainly no one else that posts on the footy thread about North End. I can also assure you I am not Billy Nelson, I do not dip chips in ice cream and like palooka says, plenty of people, including ex pros don't post under their own name, although they may choose to reveal who they are, don't use their own name on here, it's simply personal preference, we can all be found anyway if someone really wants to find us.
I can't be bothered about the rest but 5 KO's out of 12?? 2 draws in both fights he had his opponents hurt.. Against Rashid most think it should of been stopped but Rashid is one tough guy!! Ronnie was the first person to put him down!! Against Curran he had him hurt a good few times and IMO without the injured hand he may of stopped him.. Pudisov there was a body shot early that Ronnie hurt his hand on that doubled him over and there was 2 knockdown a in the last not counted.. Sometimes records don't show true power. Ronnie has proper power everyone whose been in the ring with him will tell you that.
Yes, 5 TKO's from 12, check his record if you don't believe me. And everyone's who's been in the ring with him has finished the fight on their feet, so he can't hit that hard.
palooka
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 15698
Joined: 20 Jan 2012, 15:31

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by palooka »

expe wrote:
Final round wrote:Is it true that Ronnie banged out Ricky whilst sparring?
Depends who you believe, personally the idea that Ronnie Clark got the better of and dropped Ricky Burns is preposterous, just doesn't add up, there's a clear difference in class between the two fighters.
There's a thread on Boxers Of The Past where many fantastic boxers have been bashed around in sparring by people I'd never heard of - bashed, dropped and knocked out, not once but twice and more.
expe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6871
Joined: 07 Oct 2012, 10:10

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by expe »

palooka wrote:
expe wrote:
Final round wrote:Is it true that Ronnie banged out Ricky whilst sparring?
Depends who you believe, personally the idea that Ronnie Clark got the better of and dropped Ricky Burns is preposterous, just doesn't add up, there's a clear difference in class between the two fighters.
There's a thread on Boxers Of The Past where many fantastic boxers have been bashed around in sparring by people I'd never heard of - bashed, dropped and knocked out, not once but twice and more.
I know it can happen, but I just don't see it myself.
JamieM
Cruiserweight
Posts: 1342
Joined: 23 Mar 2011, 18:06

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by JamieM »

Believe it if you want, Ronnie dropped Ricky with a body shot, Billy what was Rickys Excuse?
Final round
Cruiserweight
Posts: 4911
Joined: 20 Oct 2010, 17:02

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by Final round »

JamieM wrote:Believe it if you want, Ronnie dropped Ricky with a body shot, Billy what was Rickys Excuse?
:salut:
daviddee
Super Middleweight
Posts: 1574
Joined: 01 Feb 2012, 14:32

Re: Ronnie Clark vs Michael Roberts 01/03/2014

Post by daviddee »

palooka wrote:I can agree with that, Lee Selby didn't stop hardly anyone while in learning bouts and showed real power when stepped up; he said he wanted rounds and that the journeymen were highly skilled at getting through - the 'better' boxers were more open to getting caught hard because they open up more.
This is the exact point.. Most fighters after getting hurt against Ronnie try and survive. If you watch the Walsh v Selby and Walsh v Clark you can see the difference in how Ronnie's shot affect Walsh whereas he was able to cope better with Selby's .. Ronnie will get more KO's when stepped up as fighters will risk more!!
Post Reply