Carl Froch v. Thomas Hearns at 168

[Vladimir5555]

Who takes it?

[gilgamesh]

I'd have to favor Froch by KO around the 7th round.

[tommo100]

I take it you`ve been in the pub ,froch is easy to hit,always has been,not a trait you want fighting hearns,despite his undoubted iron chin,i don`t see froch lasting more than six rounds

[scallum]

Didn't Hearns take on Hill at 175?

[SamWise72]

Yes, and outpointed him.

[Vladimir5555]

Hearns W12

[Crease]

Hearns punches quicker - I could see him landing his punches on Carl when Froch is still "loading up" as it were. If Carl fights dirty, I can see him having a punchers chance.

But I wouldn't bet against Hearns.

[Autobarn]

hearns astonishingly fragile at 168, versus kinchen & leonard.

froch overcomes some terribly amateurish moments, and probably more than one off balance knockdown, to grind down hearns' narrow arse.

please don't debate; instead add more threads involving froch, and hearns, vs other opponents.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

LOL at astonishingly fragile. That's astonishingly stupid, but I'd also take Froch in come from behind fashion late in the fight.

[gilgamesh]

Yes it should be noted that in my "Froch KO 7" prediction, I envisioned Froch having lost 5 of the previous 6 rounds.

[Bobbyptsd]

I think Tommy outboxes him quite soundly, and has more than enough pop at 168 to make sure Froch goes along with the game plan.

[polecateddy]

Are we putting Froch behind Barkley now? Hearns had previous little form at supermiddle.

[gilgamesh]

Are we putting Froch behind Barkley now? Hearns had previous little form at supermiddle.

The Barkley fights are exactly why I pick Froch to win. If Barkley could do it, Froch could too.

[Bobbyptsd]

I based my pick more on styles than how good each guy was at the weight specifically, though I did take that into consideration too of course.

If Hearns went to war, certainly anything could happen. I just think he could outbox Carl without needing to go to that point.

[Syntax Error]

I'd fancy Froch amazingly.

Hearns had the skills & the speed to shut out the much slower Froch, but Froch is so relentless, tough & determined that I could just envisage him pressuring Hearns to the point where Tommy would have wilted & been stopped late.

Tommy Hearns is one of the greatest fighters that ever existed, but he could not handle pressure from the toughest opponents & I think Froch would have pressured him massively.

Froch's strength & will are phenomenal & it is these attributes that would see him through against Hearns.

[SamWise72]

Froch couldn't make it pay against Ward........

[Datsue]

Froch couldn't make it pay against Ward........

Ward was physically stronger, though. I do get what you mean, though, the gulf in technical ability is akin to that between star systems.

I see Froch taking a lot of big punches in this one. If Taylor could drop him, Hearns could stop him.

I'm thinking this as well. Jermaine fuckin' Taylor needed to stand up for thirty seconds or take a knee & clinch to get a win over Froch. Dirrell needed about 10% more bollocks to seal the deal (& still beat him, imo).

Froch is fvcking awful against a tall technical dude with a jab. Don't say Kessler, who's as robotic as the T-1000, 'cos I'll have to laugh at you. & point out he lost the first (yes he did. I scored it 8-4. Shut up).

I'm gonna go against the grain & posit that Froch isn't quite so gung-ho once he's spent nine rounds walking into the one-two & taking a beating to the body, & instead enters into that "hard man's silent contract" thing so he lasts the distance & loses widely on points.

Historical perspective on someone as rightly popular as Frochy is difficult, 'cos a lot of people will vote with what they'd want him to do based on bravery & derring do rather than what he actually could do.

I've watched all his fights since, er, Magee? Maybe? & I've never seen him show enough to beat the Hearns that struggled with Kinchen, barring some apocalyptic come-from-behind knockout. Could happen, of course, given Tommy's vulnerability.

But, on balance, no.

[Datsue]

Are we putting Froch behind Barkley now? Hearns had previous little form at supermiddle.

Are we putting Hearns behind Kessler now?

[Ezzard]

I can see a scenario in which both men win. And usually I always go with the anvil over the hammer. But Tommy will out-jab Froch and will land twice the number of right hands anyone else ever has. I think Hearns wins.

Now if Froch takes it all and is live in the last 3 rounds...I think he gets him...

Also, just to consider, with weigh-in times... Froch would be a big man in there.

[Roco]

Can't see Froch coming close to winning this. Hearns dealt with Andries who was bigger, stronger and tougher than Froch and he would give Froch the same treatment.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I didn't even think about the Andries version of Hearns, that guy would handle Froch with a lot of room to spare.

Froch/Barkley would be awesome.

[Ezzard]

Can't see Froch coming close to winning this. Hearns dealt with Andries who was bigger, stronger and tougher than Froch and he would give Froch the same treatment.

I don't think Dennis was bigger. With the weigh in day I'm pretty sure they'd be about the same. At least the significance would be much diminished.

Odd thing about that fight... Hearns dropped Dennis at will but really could end it. Then I remember Dennis flooring him. Ref didn't count it but Hearns admitted afterwards he was legitimately dropped.

Class act, Tommy. Went to Shuler's funeral and put in the NABF belt he had just won off him.

[Datsue]

Can't see Froch coming close to winning this. Hearns dealt with Andries who was bigger, stronger and tougher than Froch and he would give Froch the same treatment.

I don't think Dennis was bigger. With the weigh in day I'm pretty sure they'd be about the same. At least the significance would be much diminished.

Odd thing about that fight... Hearns dropped Dennis at will but really could end it. Then I remember Dennis flooring him. Ref didn't count it but Hearns admitted afterwards he was legitimately dropped.

Class act, Tommy. Went to Shuler's funeral and put in the NABF belt he had just won off him.

My first boxing man-crush. I threw my rattle several hundred yards from my pram when they scored the second Leonard fight a draw.

[SamWise72]

Andries was not tougher than Froch. Comparable, yes, but I don't know anyone notably better than Froch at keeping trying when it all looks out of his reach. He's got a good motor, but also a massive heart. So did Andries, but not bigger.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I wouldn't call anyone tougher than Froch. That version of Hearns was lightning fast, with strong legs. Carl would have a hell of a time getting to him.