B0xnati0n goes PPV!

chad
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B0xnati0n have launched their PPV service on SKY.

Danny Garcia Vs. Mauricio Herrera this weekend will be available to those who don't have a B0xnati0n subscription. They are charging a staggering £27.50 for the event! Makes SKY Box Office look like a bargain! Here is all the information. I would have just pasted a link however it wouldn't have worked due to the allegedly filter on the site:

What is B0xNati0n Live HD pay-per-view?

Pay-per-view is a new service we're offering where you gain access to B0xNati0n Live HD for an entire live event in high definition, including all of the undercards. It currently costs £27.50 for the 'Garcia v Herrera' LIVE Event and is available to Sky viewers with HD enabled equipment on channel 490. Remember, B0xNati0n subscribers get access to all the live fights and the B0xNati0n Live HD channel for only £10** per month and the only way to access all of our great weekly programming, behind-the-scenes documentaries, big fight build-up shows and classic fights is to subscribe to B0xNati0n now.

I'm already a B0xNati0n subscriber, do I have to pay-per-view?
No, if you're already a subscriber on the Sky platform and have HD equipment then you don't have to do anything, or pay any additional costs - you'll be able to access all of our live fights on B0xNati0n and B0xNati0n Live HD at no extra cost on Sky channel 490.
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Crazy price that.
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Post by Glass Joe »

yes would of made more sense just to charge 10 pound just for one card, so people can just say well i am buying this card might as well just pay for the whole month.
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broomy7s wrote:Crazy price that.
I can only agree. I have no idea who the price is aimed at. I would understand if it was aimed at sports bars and pubs wanting to show the fight without having to take a B0xnati0n subscription. Bars and pubs have to take a 3 month contract for B0xnati0n at £89.00 per month, at least that's how much it was a few months back. However with the fight being on in the small hours of the morning, I can't see many bars ordering the fight.
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For a pub to have SKY sports it costs a fortune - 100's of £'s.

It is a high PPV price, I can't imagine many takers.
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I have read that twice and conclude we must be missing something - they can't be that thick.

The moment box nat ion tries to launch a PPV option is the moment I know its finally going down the toilet, rapidly.

I don't understand why they offer it at £27, then say its only £10 to subscribe. We must be missing a piece of info.
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chad wrote:
broomy7s wrote:Crazy price that.
I can only agree. I have no idea who the price is aimed at. I would understand if it was aimed at sports bars and pubs wanting to show the fight without having to take a B0xnati0n subscription. Bars and pubs have to take a 3 month contract for B0xnati0n at £89.00 per month, at least that's how much it was a few months back. However with the fight being on in the small hours of the morning, I can't see many bars ordering the fight.
You think they'd offer it at ten or twenty quid a month to pubs and bars for the first 2-3 years, to help establish the channel and get people watching it. Sky charge an astronomical price, they should have nipped in and offered live boxing for virtually sod all for a while.
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Post by reggaereggae »

chad wrote:B0xnati0n have launched their PPV service on SKY.

Danny Garcia Vs. Mauricio Herrera this weekend will be available to those who don't have a B0xnati0n subscription. They are charging a staggering £27.50 for the event! Makes SKY Box Office look like a bargain! Here is all the information. I would have just pasted a link however it wouldn't have worked due to the allegedly filter on the site:

What is B0xNati0n Live HD pay-per-view?

Pay-per-view is a new service we're offering where you gain access to B0xNati0n Live HD for an entire live event in high definition, including all of the undercards. It currently costs £27.50 for the 'Garcia v Herrera' LIVE Event and is available to Sky viewers with HD enabled equipment on channel 490. Remember, B0xNati0n subscribers get access to all the live fights and the B0xNati0n Live HD channel for only £10** per month and the only way to access all of our great weekly programming, behind-the-scenes documentaries, big fight build-up shows and classic fights is to subscribe to B0xNati0n now.

I'm already a B0xNati0n subscriber, do I have to pay-per-view?
No, if you're already a subscriber on the Sky platform and have HD equipment then you don't have to do anything, or pay any additional costs - you'll be able to access all of our live fights on B0xNati0n and B0xNati0n Live HD at no extra cost on Sky channel 490.
Are you serious? Garcia - Herrera???? Now I know Britain will usually follow the USA model with a few years's delay but Christ. this is nuts
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A coconut and a goldfish for the first person to explain WTF is going on?
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Post by saad muhammad »

I'm a allegedly subs, but when I pressed the record button for the Garcia show
on the HD channel it said I've got to pay for via sky box office :??
I thought as a subscriber I would have got it ?
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There must be some sort of cunning plan in this, surely, why would anyone pay £27.50 to watch Garcia-Herrera when they could pay £10, plus the £10 registration fee and get a month's worth, for £7.50 less.
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Post by Final round »

Very odd, like you say a tenner one off access to a big fight is ok but hardly anyone would cough up separately for Garcia let alone that crazy price.
Maybe it's a strategy to get more people to subscribe.
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Final round wrote:Maybe it's a strategy to get more people to subscribe.
That's the only way I can see it, using the bigger profile of Sky PPV to let more people know about allegedly & now much cheaper it would appear when compared with the insane price of the PPV
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Someone banged their head, thought this was a great idea and no one questioned them. Alternatively they may have been smoking some "strong shit"
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It can only be that the 2 is a typo and it should be £7.50 surely?
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Post by SNG »

youngrell wrote:It can only be that the 2 is a typo and it should be £7.50 surely?
Must be, it just doesn't make sense otherwise. :-?
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I set the timer to record on Saturday & it came up that I had to pay & the price was £0.00?!?!? I wondered what the fornicate was going on.
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pyenest77 wrote:I set the timer to record on Saturday & it came up that I had to pay & the price was £0.00?!?!? I wondered what the eff was going on.
That's pretty cheap, don't complain. ;;-)
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Sklar wrote:A coconut and a goldfish for the first person to explain WTF is going on?
A few things have happened over the past couple of months inline with B0xnati0ns plans to grow. 12 months ago Fr&nk allegedly confirmed in an interview they planned to launch a HD channel along with the capability to offer PPV to those who don't subscribe. The third thing on the agenda was international expansion for the channel. This was reiterated in the recent AIM investors document published ahead of the Media Nation IPO. Prior to Christmas it was reported the channel had been testing in China and the B0xnati0n website currently states: "Outside the United Kingdom, the channel is available to customers in the Republic of Ireland through the Sky platform. We are looking to launch in other countries but are unable to commit to anything at this moment."

I have a feeling this weekends PPV could be a test run to see if their new PPV system works. It's long been suggested both Golden Boy and Top Rank have wanted to introduce their big shows to Europe on a PPV basis. Both have tried Primetime here in the UK with limited success. I think B0xnati0n might be taking their first steps in becoming the home of PPV boxing on a European level. Sounds far fetched I know however details published in the AIM investors document mentioned above does suggest some of the funds raised from the Media Nation IPO will be used for international expansion of the brand.
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Post by GooalaShooola »

I could be wrong, but isn't there a minimum amount of time you have to subscribe to BN for before you can cancel it? 3 months off the top of my head? I guess it's a fairly unsubtle ploy to make the subscription seem appealing and get a few more people tied into the channel for at least a short while.

You'd have to be mental to pay £27.50 purely for Garcia v Herrera - I can't envisage a single person taking them up on that.
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GooalaShooola wrote:I could be wrong, but isn't there a minimum amount of time you have to subscribe to BN for before you can cancel it? 3 months off the top of my head? I guess it's a fairly unsubtle ploy to make the subscription seem appealing and get a few more people tied into the channel for at least a short while.

You'd have to be mental to pay £27.50 purely for Garcia v Herrera - I can't envisage a single person taking them up on that.
There's currently no minimum term. Seems to be a few strange things happening on their website. The SKY subscription section has the monthly cost listed as £10.01 per month and registration £10.01 too.

I can't see anyone paying £27.50 this weekend either. What I do see however is lots of people having problems recording the show in HD. Noticed on Twitter the following conversation:

To B0xnati0n: "when I tried Sky plus'ing Garcia it prompts me for payment like its ppv..what is the problem?"

B0xnati0n reply: "This is the new way to record ch.490. You need to "buy" it for £0.00 in order to record the fight following on screen instructions"

It just doesn't sound like good advice, or the right advice too me at all.
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Post by ScottDetonator »

Anyone who pays £27.50 to watch Garcia V Herrera must be off their nut. I don't think 1 person will buy it and would possibly put off future subscribers thinking, 'Pricey that BN channel, I'll leave that alone...'

Still waiting for HD on the Virgin platform here!
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chad wrote:
Sklar wrote:A coconut and a goldfish for the first person to explain WTF is going on?
A few things have happened over the past couple of months inline with B0xnati0ns plans to grow. 12 months ago Fr&nk allegedly confirmed in an interview they planned to launch a HD channel along with the capability to offer PPV to those who don't subscribe. The third thing on the agenda was international expansion for the channel. This was reiterated in the recent AIM investors document published ahead of the Media Nation IPO. Prior to Christmas it was reported the channel had been testing in China and the B0xnati0n website currently states: "Outside the United Kingdom, the channel is available to customers in the Republic of Ireland through the Sky platform. We are looking to launch in other countries but are unable to commit to anything at this moment."

I have a feeling this weekends PPV could be a test run to see if their new PPV system works. It's long been suggested both Golden Boy and Top Rank have wanted to introduce their big shows to Europe on a PPV basis. Both have tried Primetime here in the UK with limited success. I think B0xnati0n might be taking their first steps in becoming the home of PPV boxing on a European level. Sounds far fetched I know however details published in the AIM investors document mentioned above does suggest some of the funds raised from the Media Nation IPO will be used for international expansion of the brand.
Thanks for that. Live testing is obviously a good idea and with the price-tag likely to dissuade most the system won't get hammered.

If the American promoters do go with BN as their PPV platform, I wonder how they will price events?
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mmm.... I wonder if this will mean long term that allegedly subscribers will need to PPV to get the bigger fights and only the likes of Ammann vs Conquest for the subscription charge?
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Post by DMA1987 »

stujones wrote:mmm.... I wonder if this will mean long term that allegedly subscribers will need to PPV to get the bigger fights and only the likes of Ammann vs Conquest for the subscription charge?
They are going to have to turn a profit eventually, and I can't see subscribers doing it.
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