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[m1kee50]

I see Roberts Helenius is ranked 5th despite not fighting since March.

His rtotal has dropped from the last post-fight total but Arreola (et al) haven't overhauled it. He'll drop off the ratings altogether in March if he doesn't fight since then. It's more the fault of the rest of the division for not being able to put together enough meaningful fights to overtake him,

[Cholo_cws]

Anybody know why Ukrainian cruiser Roman Golovashchenko hasn't a rating. He fought a little over a month ago beating heavyweight Yakup Saglam. Presumably he's retired?

[computerrank]

Anybody know why Ukrainian cruiser Roman Golovashchenko hasn't a rating. He fought a little over a month ago beating heavyweight Yakup Saglam. Presumably he's retired?

His record is set to complete.

But you may ask your question here:

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

[Ilya Muromets]

Boxrec had Szpilka rated #33 and Jennings 31. So how did they bump Jennings all the way up to #13 by beating a #33 guy?

[computerrank]

Boxrec had Szpilka rated #33 and Jennings 31. So how did they bump Jennings all the way up to #13 by beating a #33 guy?

Boxrec ratings do not work on ranks but on points.

Jennings was #28 before the bout.

All boxers between ranks 13 and 28 are very close, only some 100 points difference. So Jeggings could step up a lot of ranks by a points woin of 106.

[bobbyboxing]

HOW IS ALBERTO GARZA RATED 13 IN WORLD 126 THE WBA WORLD CHAMPION WHO KO'S HIM IN 4 RDS NICK WALTERS NOT RATED IN TOP 50 ???? YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT THAT IS ABOUT

BOBBY BOXING

[JCS]

I have a curious one that I can't really explain.. it just seems strange.

Mikaela Lauren lost to Christina Hammer which reduced her point total from 18 to 16.

In Lauren's very next fight, she dropped a division. Based on what I'm seeing, her 16 points turned into 18... fair enough.

However, in beating a 0 point opponent (an opponent who never had 1 point), Lauren went from 18 to 25 points.... 9 points higher than where she was post-Hammer.

My thought is that this is some unforeseen side effect of the tiered launching... but I'm not sure it makes sense in this case.

[computerrank]

I have a curious one that I can't really explain.. it just seems strange.

Mikaela Lauren lost to Christina Hammer which reduced her point total from 18 to 16.

In Lauren's very next fight, she dropped a division. Based on what I'm seeing, her 16 points turned into 18... fair enough.

However, in beating a 0 point opponent (an opponent who never had 1 point), Lauren went from 18 to 25 points.... 9 points higher than where she was post-Hammer.

My thought is that this is some unforeseen side effect of the tiered launching... but I'm not sure it makes sense in this case.

I guess, a side effect of the tiered launching, yes - I don't like it ...

[squiggy]

The annual ratings 2010s pages seem to end with the year 2010. Is there a place on the site to find top ranked individuals and bouts for the years since then?
Thanks.

[computerrank]

The annual ratings 2010s pages seem to end with the year 2010. Is there a place on the site to find top ranked individuals and bouts for the years since then?
Thanks.

... 3 years missing -

I will have do get in touch with it ...

[daniel973]

I was under t/impression (and it's been a while) that BOXREC always places a pug in t/last weight class he fought at? Is that true,or was it true as I see Canelo still at 154 after that disgusting 155lb. deal,hell if he needed another pound for that fight ... (THEN PUT HIM IN W/T/MIDDLEWEIGHTS) and yes ratings r a complicated thing,(so many factors)and PC's run everything. But has it been or not been your policy to rank a fighter on his last fight weight???

[computerrank]

I was under t/impression (and it's been a while) that BOXREC always places a pug in t/last weight class he fought at? Is that true,or was it true as I see Canelo still at 154 after that disgusting 155lb. deal,hell if he needed another pound for that fight ... (THEN PUT HIM IN W/T/MIDDLEWEIGHTS) and yes ratings r a complicated thing,(so many factors)and PC's run everything. But has it been or not been your policy to rank a fighter on his last fight weight???

The editors assign a boxer to a weight division - it is not the ratings.

The boxer should be assigned to a division because:

- he or his manager declared he will fight there
- he had his most important bouts in this division recently

[knurak]

Can someone please explain what happened with Tony Thompson and Solis's ratings, to change them again? After their fight, it was updated, and yesterday Thompson had moved to 428 points (I remember he was tied but ranked beneath Chisora). Today, it's been changed again, Thompson is down two spots, and has only 372 points, and Solis moves back up five spots from his position in yesterday's heavyweight rankings.

How did this happen?

[JCS]

Someone probably changed the result to a UD and then changed it after the ratings calc'd. Just a guess.

[knurak]

Someone probably changed the result to a UD and then changed it after the ratings calc'd. Just a guess.

That'd make sense. Thanks.

[crusader]

Can someone please explain what happened with Tony Thompson and Solis's ratings, to change them again? After their fight, it was updated, and yesterday Thompson had moved to 428 points (I remember he was tied but ranked beneath Chisora). Today, it's been changed again, Thompson is down two spots, and has only 372 points, and Solis moves back up five spots from his position in yesterday's heavyweight rankings.

How did this happen?

Noticed this too. Even if the result had been entered as a UD, why would Wilder, Arreola, and Stiverne move 2 places rather than just behind/ahead of Thompson?

[knurak]

Can someone please explain what happened with Tony Thompson and Solis's ratings, to change them again? After their fight, it was updated, and yesterday Thompson had moved to 428 points (I remember he was tied but ranked beneath Chisora). Today, it's been changed again, Thompson is down two spots, and has only 372 points, and Solis moves back up five spots from his position in yesterday's heavyweight rankings.

How did this happen?

Noticed this too. Even if the result had been entered as a UD, why would Wilder, Arreola, and Stiverne move 2 places rather than just behind/ahead of Thompson?

That part I can explain. It's the timing with Helenius being removed for inactivity.

[crusader]

I see!

[Ric]

Has there been a major tweak lately? I've noticed some significant jumps in the ratings by some boxers.

[computerrank]

Has there been a major tweak lately? I've noticed some significant jumps in the ratings by some boxers.

No - what changes please?

[Bobbyptsd]

Can someone who works on the database tell me what the shortest turnaround between title fights ever is? I can't think of an efficient way to look that up myself.

Just to be clear, I mean the shortest time ever between a fighter defending(or winning) his title and then defending it again.

[lefty]

Can someone who works on the database tell me what the shortest turnaround between title fights ever is? I can't think of an efficient way to look that up myself.

Just to be clear, I mean the shortest time ever between a fighter defending(or winning) his title and then defending it again.

Thanks mate. I thought you were being sarcastic

[Bobbyptsd]

Can someone who works on the database tell me what the shortest turnaround between title fights ever is? I can't think of an efficient way to look that up myself.

Just to be clear, I mean the shortest time ever between a fighter defending(or winning) his title and then defending it again.

Thanks mate. I thought you were being sarcastic

No problem, I figure one of the guys here can probably check that.

[computerrank]

Can someone who works on the database tell me what the shortest turnaround between title fights ever is? I can't think of an efficient way to look that up myself.

Just to be clear, I mean the shortest time ever between a fighter defending(or winning) his title and then defending it again.

Thanks mate. I thought you were being sarcastic

No problem, I figure one of the guys here can probably check that.

You really get your answer - listed all titles by division with a boxer defendiing his title successfully within less than 20 days:

title - division - date of defense - boxer-ID - days between bouts

Code: Select all

shortest title defense started Thu May 22 12:04:50 2014
                  AU          Heavyweight 1886-04-20  39896      1
                  AU         Middleweight 1906-10-15  39855      9
                  AU         Welterweight 1915-05-17  52150      5
                  AU   Light Welterweight 1980-07-18  19507     14
                  AU          Lightweight 1910-02-02  52150      4
                  AU        Featherweight 1936-11-13  46082      2
                  AU         Bantamweight 1904-06-13 136086      2
                  AU            Flyweight 1938-04-14 158423     16
               AUNSW         Welterweight 1932-05-16  87429     14
               AUNSW        Featherweight 1935-07-13  71674     18
               AUQLD         Welterweight 1930-11-28 129748      4
               AUQLD          Lightweight 1917-06-23  88851     14
               AUQLD        Featherweight 1940-06-12 147687     12
                AUSA          Heavyweight 1912-12-26  40048     10
                AUSA         Welterweight 1910-10-12 145306     16
                AUWA          Heavyweight 1938-10-14 180693      7
                AUWA         Middleweight 1958-07-21 132019      7
                AUWA         Welterweight 1924-12-27  86896     14
                AUWA          Lightweight 1926-11-19 159216     14
                  BE         Middleweight 1941-11-11  10215     13
                  BE          Lightweight 1927-01-14 197412      6
                  BE         Bantamweight 1941-07-22  50881      1
                  BO          Heavyweight 2013-03-26 450595     19
                  BR          Heavyweight 2006-08-20  14163      7
                  BR        Cruiserweight 2010-09-05 536325     10
                  BR         Middleweight 1929-11-09 374369     14
                  BR   Light Middleweight 2008-08-05 463494     11
                  BR         Welterweight 1939-01-19 626762     13
                  BR      Super Flyweight 2010-06-08 477137     11
                  CA    Light Heavyweight 1924-07-30  11345     16
                  CA          Lightweight 1914-07-11  55948     10
                  CA        Featherweight 1926-10-28  41523      8
                  CA         Bantamweight 1922-09-20  51461     14
               CISBB    Light Heavyweight 2002-06-29  13291     16
                  CO   Super Bantamweight 1987-04-03 153251     16
                COMM         Middleweight 1973-08-20  11414     17
                COMM   Light Welterweight 1976-12-16    154     13
                  CU         Welterweight 1934-06-10  89504      8
                  CU        Featherweight 1934-08-04  79468     14
                  DE         Middleweight 1951-08-11   9700     20
                  DE         Welterweight 1956-02-04  48744     15
                  DE        Featherweight 1935-09-06  41269     14
                  DE         Bantamweight 1950-05-28 105746      8
                 EBU         Middleweight 1926-03-31  17902     12
                 EBU         Welterweight 1929-06-02  41210     18
                 EBU  Super Featherweight 1981-02-14  24660     14
                 EBU            Flyweight 1950-11-18  16284     19
                  ES    Light Heavyweight 1946-10-12 112717     14
                  ES         Middleweight 1942-04-26 126187     14
                  ES   Light Middleweight 1976-09-07  30326     10
                  ES         Welterweight 1968-04-05  46980     13
                  ES   Light Welterweight 1975-09-20  95072     16
                  ES          Lightweight 1972-09-29  15997     20
                  ES  Super Featherweight 1994-05-20  38540     14
                  ES         Bantamweight 1964-11-14  12623     14
               FECAR  Super Featherweight 2008-05-16 122636     20
                  FR          Heavyweight 1933-11-13  12095     17
                  FR         Middleweight 1942-11-11  10238     11
                  FR         Welterweight 1936-03-05  67037     19
                  FR          Lightweight 1959-03-23  12661     16
                  FR        Featherweight 1927-12-20   9873     10
                  FR         Bantamweight 1945-04-22     71     15
                  FR            Flyweight 1938-05-16  51567     17
              IBFPPY  Super Featherweight 2008-09-10 387333     19
              IBUOLD         Middleweight 1935-07-13  17887     15
                  IN   Light Welterweight 1994-06-16  15202     12
                  IN        Minimumweight 1989-04-02   4559     10
                  IT         Middleweight 1915-02-23 148898     17
                  JP          Lightweight 1953-08-29  29394     19
                  KR   Super Bantamweight 1972-03-10  11140     12
                  MX          Heavyweight 1923-05-19  11023      3
                  MX         Welterweight 1940-09-10  24513      6
                  MX          Lightweight 1924-10-25 325645      7
                  MX            Flyweight 1940-08-03     45     17
                NABF   Light Welterweight 1987-02-24   1265     15
                NABF          Lightweight 1975-02-15    193      9
                NABF  Super Featherweight 1991-08-17   1371     17
                 NBA   Light Welterweight 1931-01-30  10121      7
                 NBA        Featherweight 1936-03-02   9931     13
                 NBA            Flyweight 1931-07-30  39120     14
                  NL          Lightweight 1942-01-26  33619     14
               NYSAC    Light Heavyweight 1933-03-24  11349     14
               NYSAC            Flyweight 1928-08-03  27850     14
              NZ1905         Middleweight 1886-09-06 143658     13
              NZ1905          Lightweight 1888-07-01  10704      8
                NZBA         Welterweight 1938-04-28 143673      8
                NZBA          Lightweight 1913-08-23 144377     11
                  PA        Featherweight 1925-05-16  59173     14
                PABA    Light Heavyweight 2008-04-22 427368     12
                PH00         Bantamweight 2008-02-13  84810     12
                PH00      Light Flyweight 2002-12-16   6122     16
                SOAM        Cruiserweight 2011-04-09 536325     14
                SOAM          Lightweight 1996-11-08   3425     13
                  TH        Featherweight 1995-12-22   6289      8
                  TH      Light Flyweight 1977-03-15  51395     19
                  UK   Light Middleweight 1997-03-14   7495     17
                  UK         Bantamweight 1902-05-13  88221      1
                USAZ         Middleweight 1931-07-13  17914     12
                USCA          Heavyweight 1967-03-28  11977     14
                USCA         Middleweight 1941-07-18  12423     10
                USCA         Bantamweight 1932-02-12  41264     15
                USCT          Lightweight 1916-12-15 265427     18
                USFL         Middleweight 1950-10-09  11809     13
                USME    Light Heavyweight 1941-01-17  35702     14
                USME         Middleweight 1953-04-27 145732     14
                USME         Welterweight 1946-01-14  34815     10
                USME          Lightweight 1944-10-06  12820      7
                USME        Featherweight 1926-04-30  68137     17
                USMI          Lightweight 1945-09-28  67624     14
                USMN          Heavyweight 1961-04-26  10850     20
                USMN         Middleweight 1947-12-16 127614     12
                USMN        Featherweight 1941-02-07  30146      7
               USNEW    Light Heavyweight 1971-09-16    296      6
               USNEW         Middleweight 1944-10-06  11787     14
               USNEW         Welterweight 1928-09-13  48201     13
               USNEW          Lightweight 1939-11-27   9462     17
               USNEW        Featherweight 1970-11-12  12687     14
                USNH          Heavyweight 1930-07-10 174471     14
                USOR          Lightweight 1935-07-26 141218     13
                USPA          Lightweight 1940-01-26  29600     11
                USTX          Heavyweight 1940-06-21  39866     14
                USTX         Bantamweight 1955-11-10  70129     14
                USUT          Lightweight 1939-03-13 319228     14
                USWA          Heavyweight 1934-04-05  34997     14
                USWA         Welterweight 1935-04-04  21661     16
                  VE        Featherweight 1930-09-21  42081     14
                  VE            Flyweight 1979-07-07  65003     14
              WBCABC    Light Heavyweight 2008-04-22 427368     12
              WBCINT   Super Bantamweight 2010-09-10 306992     13
              WBCMUN        Featherweight 2001-05-05  46101      1
            WBCUSNBC   Super Middleweight 2012-02-18 453333     15
                WBCY   Light Welterweight 2008-05-06  96488     19
                WBCY  Super Featherweight 2003-09-02 102505      3
                 WBO        Minimumweight 1994-01-07   4171     16
              WBOAPY  Super Featherweight 2008-09-10 387333     19
              WBOEUR          Lightweight 2013-10-07 464966     17
              WBOINT        Featherweight 1995-07-17   8851     17
              WBOLAT            Flyweight 1997-09-20   8901     14
                  WS          Heavyweight 2004-06-24  38985     12
                  ZA          Lightweight 1946-02-20  52335     18
                  ZA   Super Bantamweight 2009-06-12 360327     19
                  ZA         Bantamweight 1956-05-28  30254     17
                  ZA            Flyweight 1909-11-29 305917     17
               ZABLK         Middleweight 1955-08-22 110962     14
               ZABLK          Lightweight 1955-08-22 110878     14
               ZABLK         Bantamweight 1957-03-30  87843     15
             ZATRBLK        Featherweight 1964-09-25  76435     20
shortes title defense finished Thu May 22 12:04:53 2014

[Bobbyptsd]

Thank you very much good Sir, appreciate it