Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

Post by Michael bennt »

Anyone giving Dilks much of a chance in this one?
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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this fight is off
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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mahatma wrote:this fight is off
Any idea as to why the fight is off?
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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Dilks sudnt of had the shot in the first place shame if it is off. I'd like to see conquest v chris keane
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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maley1984 wrote:Dilks sudnt of had the shot in the first place shame if it is off. I'd like to see conquest v chris keane
I agree with the dilks comment.i think he's only boxed once before at cruiserweight.
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

Post by coolbreeze2403 »

Tony's now fighting the former commonwealth light heavyweight champion Ovill Mckenzie, should be a great fight
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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Tony defends against Ovill McKenzie now.
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What a joke this is. First we've (team Keane) been trying for this fight (along with others in top 5) long before Conquest won the commonwealth, then we've been trying every week to make the fight since he won it, bearing in mind Chris is also promoted by the same promoters,

the first reply was
" no chance will we be putting Tony in with Chris"

then the next reply was
" ok, u can have the fight, but you've got to put it on your own show & Tony wants at least £ xx, 000 " knowing we haven't got TV deal or £ xx, 000 it will cost all in all just to put the one fight on.

:oo wtf ? But they then go and somehow get the C/W council to pass a fight between Conquest & a fat S/M who has only had 1 fight against a sausage at Cruiser, then that falls through & now they've ignored us again and chose a old, light-heavy instead who again shouldn't be given the shot seen has he got stopped at light-heavy in his last fight and lost 3 out of his last 6 (2 by Ko) at that lower weight.

We've lost a fight, we're not unbeatable, what's up with us ? All we're asking for is a chance and non of these fighters/promoters/managers/teams will except a fight with us, are we really that dangerous ? IMO I don't think so, can you all really call your lads/yourselves fighters ? Imo NO.

Boxing is becoming a joke, with the big promoters hyping up, bullshitting & hood winking the paying public into buying into these fights, where we know who the winner will be anyway, and keeping it all hush hush and the board & councils allowing it so they can keep the titles in house like pass the parcel.

I think fans would start to look at a lot of people involved in this sport and the sport itself in a different light if they knew what really went on, most of the time it's not the fighters, most will fight anyone, but the bullshitters & snakes in the ties on the other hand leave a lot to be desired.

At least the WWE wrestling keeps the fans guessing to see who's been told to win on the night at there shows.
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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I have a feeling McKenzie will knock Conquest out. He doesnt have the best chin IMO so this is a pretty dangerous matchup.
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Boxingcutsman wrote:What a joke this is. First we've (team Keane) been trying for this fight (along with others in top 5) long before Conquest won the commonwealth, then we've been trying every week to make the fight since he won it, bearing in mind Chris is also promoted by the same promoters,

the first reply was
" no chance will we be putting Tony in with Chris"

then the next reply was
" ok, u can have the fight, but you've got to put it on your own show & Tony wants at least £ xx, 000 " knowing we haven't got TV deal or £ xx, 000 it will cost all in all just to put the one fight on.

:oo wtf ? But they then go and somehow get the C/W council to pass a fight between Conquest & a fat S/M who has only had 1 fight against a sausage at Cruiser, then that falls through & now they've ignored us again and chose a old, light-heavy instead who again shouldn't be given the shot seen has he got stopped at light-heavy in his last fight and lost 3 out of his last 6 (2 by Ko) at that lower weight.

Boxing is becoming a joke, with the big promoters hyping up, bullshitting & hood winking the paying public into buying into these fights, where we know who the winner will be anyway, and keeping it all hush hush and the board & councils allowing it so they can keep the titles in house like pass the parcel.

I think fans would start to look at a lot of people involved in this sport and the sport itself in a different light if they knew what really went on, most of the time it's not the fighters, most will fight anyone, but the bullshitters & snakes in the ties on the other hand leave a lot to be desired.

At least the WWE wrestling keeps the fans guessing to see who's been told to win on the night at there shows.
Mckenzie will stop Conquest inside 3 rounds, in his last fight he got caught, when looking like the winner against a former Cruiser weight world champion, who he had stopped in his previous fight, he was commonwealth champion at light heavy and won Prizefighter at Cruiserweight and was unlucky to be stopped by world title challenger Bellew, after putting Bellew down, he deserves his shot, unfortunately Keane got stopped in his breakthrough fight, so lost his chance, would he beat Conquest if given the opportunity? Yes he would, but so would some of the others, Conquest does not have good punch resistance, don't Knock Mckenzie, he was avoided for years, so he deserves the opportunities.
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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columbo wrote:I have a feeling McKenzie will knock Conquest out. He doesnt have the best chin IMO so this is a pretty dangerous matchup.
Ditto. I expect the upsetter to win this by KO!
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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columbo wrote:I have a feeling McKenzie will knock Conquest out. He doesnt have the best chin IMO so this is a pretty dangerous matchup.
McKenzie is a 4 round fighter, if he can't knock you out inside that then he's fuked, he's flat footed and slow and can easily be out boxed & Conquest is developing into a good disciplined boxer, he will keep it long and either win a massive points decision or could even stop Ovill mid-late on which wouldn't suprise me.
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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Anzi wrote:
Boxingcutsman wrote:What a joke this is. First we've (team Keane) been trying for this fight (along with others in top 5) long before Conquest won the commonwealth, then we've been trying every week to make the fight since he won it, bearing in mind Chris is also promoted by the same promoters,

the first reply was
" no chance will we be putting Tony in with Chris"

then the next reply was
" ok, u can have the fight, but you've got to put it on your own show & Tony wants at least £ xx, 000 " knowing we haven't got TV deal or £ xx, 000 it will cost all in all just to put the one fight on.

:oo wtf ? But they then go and somehow get the C/W council to pass a fight between Conquest & a fat S/M who has only had 1 fight against a sausage at Cruiser, then that falls through & now they've ignored us again and chose a old, light-heavy instead who again shouldn't be given the shot seen has he got stopped at light-heavy in his last fight and lost 3 out of his last 6 (2 by Ko) at that lower weight.

Boxing is becoming a joke, with the big promoters hyping up, bullshitting & hood winking the paying public into buying into these fights, where we know who the winner will be anyway, and keeping it all hush hush and the board & councils allowing it so they can keep the titles in house like pass the parcel.

I think fans would start to look at a lot of people involved in this sport and the sport itself in a different light if they knew what really went on, most of the time it's not the fighters, most will fight anyone, but the bullshitters & snakes in the ties on the other hand leave a lot to be desired.

At least the WWE wrestling keeps the fans guessing to see who's been told to win on the night at there shows.
Mckenzie will stop Conquest inside 3 rounds, in his last fight he got caught, when looking like the winner against a former Cruiser weight world champion, who he had stopped in his previous fight, he was commonwealth champion at light heavy and won Prizefighter at Cruiserweight and was unlucky to be stopped by world title challenger Bellew, after putting Bellew down, he deserves his shot, unfortunately Keane got stopped in his breakthrough fight, so lost his chance, would he beat Conquest if given the opportunity? Yes he would, but so would some of the others, Conquest does not have good punch resistance, don't Knock Mckenzie, he was avoided for years, so he deserves the opportunities.

McKenzie is a 4 round fighter that's why prizefighter suited him, Enzo & Bellew played into his hands early on with there come forward styles, Ovill can punch but after 4 rounds he can't, he'll be out boxed

And yes Chris got stopped, but he already stopped the ex/recent British champion (McPhilbin) in his previous fight before that and has won his 3 fights since, conquest was stopped in his big break through fight, had 1 fight back then got his shot again, so has Ovill (a good few times) :TU:
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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Boxingcutsman wrote:
columbo wrote:I have a feeling McKenzie will knock Conquest out. He doesnt have the best chin IMO so this is a pretty dangerous matchup.
McKenzie is a 4 round fighter, if he can't knock you out inside that then he's fuked, he's flat footed and slow and can easily be out boxed & Conquest is developing into a good disciplined boxer, he will keep it long and either win a massive points decision or could even stop Ovill mid-late on which wouldn't suprise me.
I agree with the sentiment but yeah I dont rate Conquest that much to be honest. He's an ok fighter but nothing special and his chin clearly is dodgy! Conquest also seems to be at his most vulnerable in the early rounds which like you say also happens to be McKenzie's forte.
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McKenzie will swarm all over him from the first round, or he should and will stop him, Keane's connections should be happy with that because, it could set up an all midland clash, because if Conquest wins Keane may not get a chance, if Mckenzie does meet Keane, Keane cannot afford to be as reckless in that fight, it would be a good match up.
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Boxingcutsman wrote:What a joke this is. First we've (team Keane) been trying for this fight (along with others in top 5) long before Conquest won the commonwealth, then we've been trying every week to make the fight since he won it, bearing in mind Chris is also promoted by the same promoters,

the first reply was
" no chance will we be putting Tony in with Chris"

then the next reply was
" ok, u can have the fight, but you've got to put it on your own show & Tony wants at least £ xx, 000 " knowing we haven't got TV deal or £ xx, 000 it will cost all in all just to put the one fight on.

:oo wtf ? But they then go and somehow get the C/W council to pass a fight between Conquest & a fat S/M who has only had 1 fight against a sausage at Cruiser, then that falls through & now they've ignored us again and chose a old, light-heavy instead who again shouldn't be given the shot seen has he got stopped at light-heavy in his last fight and lost 3 out of his last 6 (2 by Ko) at that lower weight.

We've lost a fight, we're not unbeatable, what's up with us ? All we're asking for is a chance and non of these fighters/promoters/managers/teams will except a fight with us, are we really that dangerous ? IMO I don't think so, can you all really call your lads/yourselves fighters ? Imo NO.

Boxing is becoming a joke, with the big promoters hyping up, bullshitting & hood winking the paying public into buying into these fights, where we know who the winner will be anyway, and keeping it all hush hush and the board & councils allowing it so they can keep the titles in house like pass the parcel.

I think fans would start to look at a lot of people involved in this sport and the sport itself in a different light if they knew what really went on, most of the time it's not the fighters, most will fight anyone, but the bullshitters & snakes in the ties on the other hand leave a lot to be desired.

At least the WWE wrestling keeps the fans guessing to see who's been told to win on the night at there shows.
This fat super middle has got no problem fighting your man keane get on to Steve woods an lets get sort it out
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terrdilk wrote:
Boxingcutsman wrote:What a joke this is. First we've (team Keane) been trying for this fight (along with others in top 5) long before Conquest won the commonwealth, then we've been trying every week to make the fight since he won it, bearing in mind Chris is also promoted by the same promoters,

the first reply was
" no chance will we be putting Tony in with Chris"

then the next reply was
" ok, u can have the fight, but you've got to put it on your own show & Tony wants at least £ xx, 000 " knowing we haven't got TV deal or £ xx, 000 it will cost all in all just to put the one fight on.

:oo wtf ? But they then go and somehow get the C/W council to pass a fight between Conquest & a fat S/M who has only had 1 fight against a sausage at Cruiser, then that falls through & now they've ignored us again and chose a old, light-heavy instead who again shouldn't be given the shot seen has he got stopped at light-heavy in his last fight and lost 3 out of his last 6 (2 by Ko) at that lower weight.

We've lost a fight, we're not unbeatable, what's up with us ? All we're asking for is a chance and non of these fighters/promoters/managers/teams will except a fight with us, are we really that dangerous ? IMO I don't think so, can you all really call your lads/yourselves fighters ? Imo NO.

Boxing is becoming a joke, with the big promoters hyping up, bullshitting & hood winking the paying public into buying into these fights, where we know who the winner will be anyway, and keeping it all hush hush and the board & councils allowing it so they can keep the titles in house like pass the parcel.

I think fans would start to look at a lot of people involved in this sport and the sport itself in a different light if they knew what really went on, most of the time it's not the fighters, most will fight anyone, but the bullshitters & snakes in the ties on the other hand leave a lot to be desired.

At least the WWE wrestling keeps the fans guessing to see who's been told to win on the night at there shows.
This fat super middle has got no problem fighting your man keane get on to Steve woods an lets get sort it out
Lol, the challenge has been put down Boxingcutsman, what now ?
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Beating dilks won't benefit or progress keanes career so it wud b a pointless fight imo. Keane is looking at the top names at cruiser and dilks is a blown up super middle so if keane stops him that all people will say. from wat I hear not many prepared to take the fight with keane which surprises me as he has shown he can b vulnerable although he does hav power himself. He must b frustrated at being over looked.
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Boxingcutsman wrote:
they then go and somehow get the C/W council to pass a fight between Conquest & a fat S/M who has only had 1 fight against a sausage at Cruiser
they didn't did they, hence the fight isn't on..?
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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Anzi wrote:
terrdilk wrote:
Boxingcutsman wrote: This fat super middle has got no problem fighting your man keane get on to Steve woods an lets get sort it out
Lol, the challenge has been put down Boxingcutsman, what now ?
Anzi give your head a wobble u complete clown, about the challenge has been put down.
Listen bottom line is Dilks is a step back for us and we will get no credit for beating him, fact. Who has he beat other than in a prizefighter with a winning record ? And at lower weights ?

But what I will say is if there's something worth while at stake then we will come to Liverpool, Manchester or anywhere else for that matter to fight Dilks, no problem what so ever, Chris is a fighter just like Carl and doesn't care or fear fighting anyone.

I actually like Dilks and don't think he's fully fulfilled his potential, I was helping out has Cutman in the opposite corner on undercard of Haye Vs Ruiz has I was there working a couple fighters corners when he knocked Carl Drake flat out, very bad knockout tbh, granted Dilks had a massive size advantage over Drake who was clearly a over weight L/M that night, but never the less i know Dilks is a decent fighter, has he's proved, but at S/M not cruiser, and that's why he shouldn't of been given the shot at this weight when there's other lads above him in there natural weight class waiting for the chance.
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maley1984 wrote:Beating dilks won't benefit or progress keanes career so it wud b a pointless fight imo. Keane is looking at the top names at cruiser and dilks is a blown up super middle so if keane stops him that all people will say. from wat I hear not many prepared to take the fight with keane which surprises me as he has shown he can b vulnerable although he does hav power himself. He must b frustrated at being over looked.
X2 :TU: spot on mate
And yes it's very frustrating, nearly 5 years now of broken promises, let downs & avoiding, then when we get our 1st and only chance it came at wrong time but we had to go for it only 20% ready and paid the price, but hopefully we will get a chance again soon! we keep winning we can't be avoided for ever! surely ?
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Boxingcutsman wrote:
maley1984 wrote:Beating dilks won't benefit or progress keanes career so it wud b a pointless fight imo. Keane is looking at the top names at cruiser and dilks is a blown up super middle so if keane stops him that all people will say. from wat I hear not many prepared to take the fight with keane which surprises me as he has shown he can b vulnerable although he does hav power himself. He must b frustrated at being over looked.
X2 :TU: spot on mate
And yes it's very frustrating, nearly 5 years now of broken promises, let downs & avoiding, then when we get our 1st and only chance it came at wrong time but we had to go for it only 20% ready and paid the price, but hopefully we will get a chance again soon! we keep winning we can't be avoided for ever! surely ?
That's your opinion an cool fare one I just thought u was a touch disrespectful calling me a fat super middle how do u now how I have been performing with the extra weight. At the end of the day if no one will fight your lad I'm game Steve is my manager if your struggling for an opponent I'm game see how the fat super middle copes at cruiser
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Re: Tony Conquest vs Carl Dilks

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Dilks is an improvement on Keane's last two opponents Remigijus Ziausys & Igor Borucha !!
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Boxing Cutsman you are the only clown on here, go and wobble back into McDonalds, before you have a heart attack, it was a bit of harmless fun, but you don't have a sense of humour.
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Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Dilks is an improvement on Keane's last two opponents Remigijus Ziausys & Igor Borucha !!
Yes I agree.
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