The Second Coming - Cardiff - 17/5

[heisenberg]

Will be good to see Selby out again, as well as Buckland v Rees rematch, and Callum Smith v Tobias Webb. Not seen much of Webb, is he much cop?

Oh, and Clev has signed for Eddie. Didn't see that coming...Fwank won't be pleased

[cocobongo]

Makes Bellew Vs Clev II easy enough to make now!

I fancy Buckland to beat Rees again in a similar fight shame really as i like Rees!

[heisenberg]

I'ma neutral for Rees/Buckland but as long as the rematch lives up to the last fight, I'll be pleased. Doubt it though, that was a war.

[chad]

Oh, and Clev has signed for Eddie. Didn't see that coming...Fwank won't be pleased

Is that official? The BBC suggest otherwise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/26759701

"The fact the event is being promoted by Hearn will raise eyebrows in the sport, as Cleverly has previously been promoted by Fr&nk allegedly. However, BBC Wales has been told Cleverly remains contracted to allegedly."

Strange stuff

[heisenberg]

Oh, and Clev has signed for Eddie. Didn't see that coming...Fwank won't be pleased

Is that official? The BBC suggest otherwise.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/wales/26759701

"The fact the event is being promoted by Hearn will raise eyebrows in the sport, as Cleverly has previously been promoted by Fr&nk allegedly. However, BBC Wales has been told Cleverly remains contracted to allegedly."

Strange stuff

It was more an assumption on my part I suppose mate, why would Fwank let Clev box on a Matchroom card? Business wise, does that make much sense? Then again, Tyson is on BN and he's still with Hennessey I suppose. It will come out shortly I would have thought

[chad]

It was more an assumption on my part I suppose mate, why would Fwank let Clev box on a Matchroom card? Business wise, does that make much sense? Then again, Tyson is on BN and he's still with Hennessey I suppose. It will come out shortly I would have thought

Weird stuff. Maybe it's a repeat of the Ricky Burns scenario? No doubt we'll know the full story soon enough.

[Newport Daz]

The South Wales Argus says Cleverley will be signing for Matchroom.

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/ ... ms/?ref=mr

It's not unexpected. There's been rumours for ages he was letting his contract run out. I expect Frank will say the usual that Cleverley is contracted to him etc,etc - legal proceedings will start etc,etc. The usual really.

[heisenberg]

Clev has said he has signed with Matchroom, as stated above.

Cleverly: It's chapter two for me. I've had a bit of time off and I decided to team up with Eddie.Matchroom and Sky Sports is the place to be to get back to the top and I can't wait to get back in there - let's bring it on

[Parson Cross]

17/5 not 17/4.
Here we go again.
Rumpole where are you ?!?

[BAP1]

We've all been speaking about Cleverly joining Eddie. Tbh I can't say I'm surprised I guess he will headline the big shows in Cardiff.

It does make you wonder though didn't cleverly pull out of three fights recently under Fwank? If he has done that purposely to see out his contract it's clever but very sly. I don't think Cleverly is that type though.

I guess we will see a statement from Allegedly anytime soon.........

[WelshJack]

Clev Cruiserweight debut
Selby European title defence
Rees v Buckland 2
Dale Evans possible British title elminator
Chris Jenkins same as above or a defence of his WBC title
Smith v Webb
Hell of a bill it'll probably have Craig Kennedy and hopefully Frankie Borg v Kerry Hope 2

[Rumpole]

17/5 not 17/4.
Here we go again.
Rumpole where are you ?!?

Keeping a low profile mate, but working hard.

[Parson Cross]

[Boxingcutsman]

Here's a couple of good ones to add to the bill,

Troy James Vs Maxi Hughes (for WBC Silver S/F title ) or another inter-continental/international title, what ya reckon Dave ?

Or Troy James Vs either Buckland or Rees if one pulls out

Chris Keane Vs Craig Kennedy

[Andrew]

Its always dissapointing when a show is announced and no opponents for two of the headliners.

Want a serious test for Selby now at least someone better than Simion he fought in Hull that was by far his toughest fight.

[leforge]

Here's a couple of good ones to add to the bill,

Troy James Vs Maxi Hughes (for WBC Silver S/F title ) or another inter-continental/international title, what ya reckon Dave ?

Or Troy James Vs either Buckland or Rees if one pulls out

Chris Keane Vs Craig Kennedy

Would Keane be allowed to fight on it?

[lefty]

I wonder what stiff Selby will be in with.

[JimJim2009]

We've all been speaking about Cleverly joining Eddie. Tbh I can't say I'm surprised I guess he will headline the big shows in Cardiff.

It does make you wonder though didn't cleverly pull out of three fights recently under Fwank? If he has done that purposely to see out his contract it's clever but very sly. I don't think Cleverly is that type though.

I guess we will see a statement from Allegedly anytime soon.........

I have a theory, based on absolutely nothing so I am probably completely wrong.

With the Cleverly fights, and others that spring to mind that never came off, I have a theory that when behind-the-scenes relations may not be all they could be, the promoter decides to cut to the chase by announcing, publicly, that the fighter is on the bill, before it has been actually agreed. This would put pressure on the fighter to go along with it, particularly if he's been moaning - after all, having a fight coming up is paramount.

As a promoter, you wouldn't do it out of dumbness, there would have to be a reason. Looking at it from the other perspective, maybe the fights are indeed signed and sealed, and the promoter just has really bad luck with fighters getting injured etc.

So basically what I am saying is, my theory is that the promoter announced those fights and the fighter hadn't agreed to start with.

[daviddee]

Here's a couple of good ones to add to the bill,

Troy James Vs Maxi Hughes (for WBC Silver S/F title ) or another inter-continental/international title, what ya reckon Dave ?

Or Troy James Vs either Buckland or Rees if one pulls out

Chris Keane Vs Craig Kennedy

With it being in Cardiff surely you should be asking for Craig Evans or Romeo Romaeo.. As long as it doesn't clash with Troy getting beat by Ronnie Clark then it's all ok :)

[Andrew]

I wonder what stiff Selby will be in with.

Watched the presser and Hearn said WBC eliminator.

1 .- Abner Mares (Mexico)
2 .- Jayson Velez (P. Rico)
3 .- Lee Selby (GB) EBU/BBB C
4 .- Marvin Sonsona (Phil)
5 .- Rene Alvarado (Nicaragua) SILVER
6 .- Viorel Simion (Romania

He has already beaten no 6 which was his toughest fight last summer.

Velez has a fight lined up ( just read it on BS ) so should be looking at 4 and 5 then I guess.

[Boxingcutsman]

Here's a couple of good ones to add to the bill,

Troy James Vs Maxi Hughes (for WBC Silver S/F title ) or another inter-continental/international title, what ya reckon Dave ?

Or Troy James Vs either Buckland or Rees if one pulls out

Chris Keane Vs Craig Kennedy

With it being in Cardiff surely you should be asking for Craig Evans or Romeo Romaeo.. As long as it doesn't clash with Troy getting beat by Ronnie Clark then it's all ok :)

And then the usual clowns pop up

No.1, why the fuk are we gonna call for a fight against a kid who's only had 2 fights, and didn't look amazing in the 2nd one at that ?

No.2, why is Craig Evans gonna fight on a Matchroom show when he's with Warren ?

No.3, Maxi Hughes trains in Wales and can be put on the bill due to his managers relationship with the promoter, and he still needs a opponent has your man who managed a draw with him has refused a rematch fight with him twice, remember ? ;;-)


And finally but no means least, the Ronnie Clark fight is not gonna be before this show because Ronnie Clark is still waiting patiently like a good little boy for Tommy to pull his finger out and put this supposedly huge bid (with backing of huge sponsor) in to the board for us dum English folk who think we need a passport to come to Scotland to come up and get beat up by your man but plz be patient, your mans time will come my friend

[daviddee]

Here's a couple of good ones to add to the bill,

Troy James Vs Maxi Hughes (for WBC Silver S/F title ) or another inter-continental/international title, what ya reckon Dave ?

Or Troy James Vs either Buckland or Rees if one pulls out

Chris Keane Vs Craig Kennedy

With it being in Cardiff surely you should be asking for Craig Evans or Romeo Romaeo.. As long as it doesn't clash with Troy getting beat by Ronnie Clark then it's all ok :)

And then the usual clowns pop up

No.1, why the fuk are we gonna call for a fight against a kid who's only had 2 fights, and didn't look amazing in the 2nd one at that ?

No.2, why is Craig Evans gonna fight on a Matchroom show when he's with Warren ?

No.3, Maxi Hughes trains in Wales and can be put on the bill due to his managers relationship with the promoter, and he still needs a opponent has your man who managed a draw with him has refused a rematch fight with him twice, remember ? ;;-)


And finally but no means least, the Ronnie Clark fight is not gonna be before this show because Ronnie Clark is still waiting patiently like a good little boy for Tommy to pull his finger out and put this supposedly huge bid (with backing of huge sponsor) in to the board for us dum English folk who think we need a passport to come to Scotland to come up and get beat up by your man but plz be patient, your mans time will come my friend

Haha caught a wee fishy..

[whiskey]

I really like Gavin Rees, he's game as they come and makes me chuckle with some of the one liners he comes out with.

He's starting to miss a step though when the bell rings, his stamina goes up and down now - whereas a few years ago he was like a little buzz saw.

[JamieM]

Fair play if Troy steps in with Rees or buck land but can't see any of them pulling out, as for maxi Hughes if you want it contact Dave cold well, maxi won't duck him that's for sure, WBC silver title, u planning a different route now for Troy?

[Boxingcutsman]

Fair play if Troy steps in with Rees or buck land but can't see any of them pulling out, as for maxi Hughes if you want it contact Dave cold well, maxi won't duck him that's for sure, WBC silver title, u planning a different route now for Troy?

I've spoke to Dave early mate, the fight with Troy & maxi may happen down the line but not yet, Dave's got other ideas for Maxi.

No not necessarily, just a nice little title ain't it

Yh Troy has done 100's of rounds with Buckland and the spars are no different to the fight you all watched Gary have Vs Rees the 1st time, and Tony Borg, Craig Evans, Lee Selby, Frankie Borg or anyone else will tell you that same thing who have witnessed it, especially Tony Borg, they gel together really well and both myself and Tony Borg believe it possibly would make for a contender for a fight of the year, it's one of few spars you would pay to watch.

Troy has also sparred Rees and he is a mirror image of a young, fresh Rees, that's why Buckland has him for sparring last time and why crolla has used him when he beat Rees also, no one has seen the full talent and ability yet of Troy, and what he is really capable of, he more than holds his own with the 3 I've named and has friendly has we all are, it's business's and would fight them in a drop of a hat, them are the sort of fights Troy needs to show his talent.