Dean Powell

[palooka]

I think there is a way of opting out of crawling for external content with robots.txt. The issue comes as the content is indexed if they exist elsewhere.

Of course, I'm struggling to see why you would have an external facing website that you DIDN'T want indexed...kinda defeats the point of it being there, assuming it's regular web content.

Yeah, i know about robots.txt. Sole issue was the belief that google can't get behind application forms and log in's. Know it can get through search options...

Will leave the SEO stuff off the Dean Powell thread. if his family accidentily saw this they would think I was a boring pudendum

Which you're not

[thepocketrocket]

I think there is a way of opting out of crawling for external content with robots.txt. The issue comes as the content is indexed if they exist elsewhere.

Of course, I'm struggling to see why you would have an external facing website that you DIDN'T want indexed...kinda defeats the point of it being there, assuming it's regular web content.

Yeah, i know about robots.txt. Sole issue was the belief that google can't get behind application forms and log in's. Know it can get through search options...

Will leave the SEO stuff off the Dean Powell thread. if his family accidentily saw this they would think I was a boring pudendum

Which you're not

Well I like to keep it secret

[Mimmy]

Did anything ever come out about why he might of taken his own life? The reason I ask is it seemed to just go pretty quiet in the aftermath.

You really are a complete bell end.. It doesn't matter to you his reason. Think it's disgusting making threads about someone who is no longer with us

I find the reply quite insultive. So its ok for BBC news to report the deaths of people? Its ok for quite intrusive comments in the media regarding suicides and the possible reasons sometimes sexual? We are all humans and whether its the weather forecast we want to know or the bus time table we all have a nature of wanting information. I suppose you have never wanted to know any information on any subject.

If you asked me why my brother committed suicide I would tell you without any issues. Its sad yes but intrusive, I don't think so.

[bripez]

Did anything ever come out about why he might of taken his own life? The reason I ask is it seemed to just go pretty quiet in the aftermath.

You really are a complete bell end.. It doesn't matter to you his reason. Think it's disgusting making threads about someone who is no longer with us

If this post was made with the intention of ending this thread it didn't quite work out as planned did it ?

[thepocketrocket]

On a more important note, if you aren't a member, you can go right in. The block seems to be for members, forcing em to log in. That may explain the Google bot accessing.

Oh, and RIP Dean!

[lefty]

Apologies to anyone I offended with the thread. I think that the majority can see that my intentions wernt meant in anyway to be disrespectful. However like Orbtastic said, it was possibly a little insensitive so again I apologise.

[Mimmy]

Apologies to anyone I offended with the thread. I think that the majority can see that my intentions wernt meant in anyway to be disrespectful. However like Orbtastic said, it was possibly a little insensitive so again I apologise.

Columbo Im sure members of Boxrec who frequently post on here know you and have a good idea what you were enquiring about, Ive thought about the issue too.

I wouldnt worry about it too much. My family have been through the same issue as the Powell family and to be honest if people want to talk about my brother to me thats fine. If you knew my brother and asked the question I would not find it intrusive or insensitive.

Im not saying we are all the same and some reasons maybe a little sore and families do not want to discuss the reasons. But I for one know you were only thinking what lots of others were.

Take care mate!

[lefty]

Apologies to anyone I offended with the thread. I think that the majority can see that my intentions wernt meant in anyway to be disrespectful. However like Orbtastic said, it was possibly a little insensitive so again I apologise.

Columbo Im sure members of Boxrec who frequently post on here know you and have a good idea what you were enquiring about, Ive thought about the issue too.

I wouldnt worry about it too much. My family have been through the same issue as the Powell family and to be honest if people want to talk about my brother to me thats fine. If you knew my brother and asked the question I would not find it intrusive or insensitive.

Im not saying we are all the same and some reasons maybe a little sore and families do not want to discuss the reasons. But I for one know you were only thinking what lots of others were.

Take care mate!

Thanks mate. Appreciate it. Hope things are going well for you at the moment ..... To add to something else, did people know that suicide sn the second biggest killer of men in the UK? In young men it was a bigger killer than road accidents, HIV and Assaults combined. That's seriously messed up.

[Final round]

Lot of pressure in matchmaking, when things go wrong it's all on you.

Real shame he sounded like a nice bloke who lived boxing

[mickey1975]

I can honestly say out of all the suicides I have heard of, this one has baffled me most. Maybe because I have seen him so regularly on my telly(almost daily) for the past 20 years. Even now, he pops up on BN lobbing Enzo or Vince out of the way to give proper advice. He had what i would consider the dream job, and he obviously did to because he wasn't handed it, he moved away at a young age and worked for it. I followed him on Twitter and he had loads going on on the music front too. God only knows... RIP Dean.

[lefty]

I can honestly say out of all the suicides I have heard of, this one has baffled me most. Maybe because I have seen him so regularly on my telly(almost daily) for the past 20 years. Even now, he pops up on BN lobbing Enzo or Vince out of the way to give proper advice. He had what i would consider the dream job, and he obviously did to because he wasn't handed it, he moved away at a young age and worked for it. I followed him on Twitter and he had loads going on on the music front too. God only knows... RIP Dean.

That's the part I find the most perplexing.

[SMALL AXE1]

He's not a nob head, he's asking a question in a respectful way. I'd also wondered why Mr Powell had taken his own life, I also wondered why Darren Sutherland had done the same - I don't think that makes me disgusting - nosy perhaps but not horrible.

x2

X3

[palooka]

Depression is for sure a major killer and taken far less seriously than it should be; if it can overtake the life of a man like Powell who had widespread admiration and affection and who was living a successful life, we had all better watch out for it.

[reggaereggae]

As someone who had battled with depression for most of my entire life; there often isn't an identifiable obvious 'reason'. Depression is a difficult thing to understand if you've never suffered with it. For many people a serious depression comes from a life event or a number of events that are identifiable. Death, marriage break up, debt, job loss etc.

However, For long term clinical depression..... It's like some endless struggle. Christ if I have one day where I feel just content..... Just ok with myself. It feels so refreshing, like being alive. These days are very rare. Sometimes you just want to stop fighting. You've just had enough. Not interested in life anymore.

There can also be reasons that no one ever knew about. Some internal struggle. We are much better at talking things now, but not everyone does or can feel comfortable about everything.

As for Dean; I understand why people are curious why a popular and likeable man committed suicide. Maybe in the end, he just couldn't deal with the constant struggle of depression......

[palooka]

That sounds like a real struggle, hope you start to have more good days.

[reggaereggae]

That sounds like a real struggle, hope you start to have more good days.

Thanks palooka, that's a really kind thing to say.....

I think I'm probably too cowardly now to top myself now...... A couple of trials when in was young. I would have to drop lower. Some people just slowly kill themselves with drink/drugs. Maybe that's my path. I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me. You know, outwardly despite some knocks, there are people dealt far far worse knocks. But oddly depression takes away rationalism, objectivity and hope. Poor Dean. I feel his pain.

I believe there was a regular poster who unfortunately suicided some years ago. Can't remember the name.

Just in the news today there are two stories of attractive young (21 and 29) people who one would've thought 'had everything going for them.' Both suicided. Depression is a nasty enigma. And whilst I understand the difficulty 'unafflicted' people may have in getting their head round it.... The hardest thing (though people are much more knowledgeable now) is how dismissive some people can be; especially family and parents.

Depression is often not considered serious until someone kills themselves.

Sorry to go on, I know this thread is about Dean really.....RIP

[palooka]

A mate of mine hung himself about 10 days ago, he'd written a note a week before and passed it to his dad who did not realise how serious his feelings were, he told him to stop fornicating about and be a man. My mate was a bad man who had prospered in the heavy drug game and became hopelessly addicted, injecting heroin and crack - he'd get off the drugs and on methadone, get kicked off his script for using and it was all a hideous roundabout for around 15 years. His health was ruined, physical and mental health. He was a really artistic man with a gift for carpentry, a couple of kids he had nothing to with; when you saw him he'd tell you how much he'd spent on drugs and how people had used him. I'm not sure his decline and ruin weren't some sort of karmic reckoning.

[whiskey]

reggaereggae, it's good to discuss it. Always keep discussing 'it' and not yourself - it's not your choice, for it was then 'it' would be banished.

I read some interesting scientific research last month, that seriously links depressed moods to subtle physical reasons.

Even just gentle food or pet hair allergies, where the effects aren't even noticeable - can trigger the inflamation system within the human body, which brings with it the 'depressed' feeling.

You know, the mood that regular people feel when they have a cold or feel under the weather, say following a vaccination. Think about being hot on holiday, did that make you depressed? or out in the cold snow, did that make you depressed? so why does a fever that makes you feel hot or cold, suddenly affect someone's mood so horrendously? well that's science, the human body. The severity of the affliction can leave you feeling from under the weather - to feeling like you are on death's doorstep.

Right now - Do you have a bad neck, aching head or anything that you do in your job? sounds crazy but it could be body twinges that aren't severe enough to register pain, but are affecting your nervous system. Do you get enough excersise, vitamins, fresh air, minerals in your system - or do you pollute your body with smoke and booze daily or weekly ?

Here's a report that suggests the effectiveness of taking prescribed anti-depressants in tandem with anti-allergy tablets increased it's effectiveness:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... une-system

[reggaereggae]

reggaereggae, it's good to discuss it. Always keep discussing 'it' and not yourself - it's not your choice, for it was then 'it' would be banished.

I read some interesting scientific research last month, that seriously links depressed moods to subtle physical reasons.

Even just gentle food or pet hair allergies, where the effects aren't even noticeable - can trigger the inflamation system within the human body, which brings with it the 'depressed' feeling.

You know, the mood that regular people feel when they have a cold or feel under the weather, say following a vaccination. Think about being hot on holiday, did that make you depressed? or out in the cold snow, did that make you depressed? so why does a fever that makes you feel hot or cold, suddenly affect someone's mood so horrendously? well that's science, the human body. The severity of the affliction can leave you feeling from under the weather - to feeling like you are on death's doorstep.

Right now - Do you have a bad neck, aching head or anything that you do in your job? sounds crazy but it could be body twinges that aren't severe enough to register pain, but are affecting your nervous system. Do you get enough excersise, vitamins, fresh air, minerals in your system - or do you pollute your body with smoke and booze daily or weekly ?

Here's a report that suggests the effectiveness of taking prescribed anti-depressants in tandem with anti-allergy tablets increased it's effectiveness:

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... une-system

Thanks for that mate. I'll look into it. As you say a number of environmental aspects can affect depression. I recently came off anti depressants (at the end very strong ones) after 20 years. Not through choice. I just couldn't get myself to the doctor anymore and was in bed all day. It was awful for 10 days but then I felt better for a bit, I really did. But now; well. Same.

Thing is I know what to do to start to be better - get down gym again, eat healthy natural food, and stay away from intoxicants. Should be simple.

And I know it sounds nuts.... But when you're clinically depressed, sometimes you don't even want to be better. You almost revel in destroying yourself!

[TheCobra]

And I know it sounds nuts.... But when you're clinically depressed, sometimes you don't even want to be better. You almost revel in destroying yourself!

Yep that seems familiar to me,there are many occasions I just want oblivion and the best way to achieve that is drugs and drink. It's not that I don't WANT to get better, I just know how many steps it will take and how much effort is involved in that fight to feel semi-normal.

I have been living with some form of depression from about age 18 and I'm 33 now. I got bullied pretty bad on a couple of separate sort of 'few years' at school by different people, something which I only recently really admitted to anyone as I just kept it inside and secret really - the 'shame' of being bullied I guess as it's often seen as a weakness. Who knows if this can have an impact too on adult depression, social isolation, feeling not worthy etc etc. It's easy for people to think you are being self-pitying and say stupid things like 'just snap out of it' but it obviously goes very deep to the point that it's a cloud hanging over you.

The main things I have always felt since about 16 are that I'm an outsider and that I don't actually have the ability to be happy. Maybe it got beat out of me mentally/physically I don't know by the childhood bullying. Who knows what other environmental/genetic factors have a part to play as I guess we each have our own story. I feel it's probably 70% genetic and 30% life factors, as some people could go through similar life events and come out smiling and have a happy outlook.

Plus to meet me you wouldn't know probably even 1% that I had depression, as I guess you become good at being fake happy to mask it.

[palooka]

I think you've got to take little steps and take one day at a time; I understand where you're coming from - when i was drinking I couldn't even be arsed to take the vitamins I'd bought. I do think that alcohol is a major factor in both making the body sluggish and keeping the mood low. I imagined I'd do really well in life but got shown different but some people do say that life is a learning curve and some people do seem to have the hard lessons.

[handsofstone]

Depression is a horrible thing but it does seem to get more awareness these days,my mum suffers with it and its a bleak thing to see anyone go through,she's been good last couple of weeks but I've just to make sure I speak to her every day,my best mate is suffering with it too but I struggle to pick him up,he was pissed off,hadn't worked in over 6 years,hes moved in with his Mrs to the other side of the city and was just feeling blue being on his own not seeing any of his mates,I got him a job with me and he lasted 2 weeks,like my mum he's on anti depressants and he has good and bad days,whereas my mum just gets on with it and never lays in bed,or stays in all day with curtains shut,my friend suffers with a lot of self pity

[hurlock]

It was depression apparently which can be derived from many things which could be sleeping problems etc & I don't know deans problems. I suppose people want closure on a man that played a big part in British boxing & everyone respects family's decisions to keep memory's in tact etc.as not everything has to be sinister if kept quiet.

[whiskey]

The main things I have always felt since about 16 are that I'm an outsider and that I don't actually have the ability to be happy. Maybe it got beat out of me mentally/physically I don't know by the childhood bullying. Who knows what other environmental/genetic factors have a part to play as I guess we each have our own story. I feel it's probably 70% genetic and 30% life factors, as some people could go through similar life events and come out smiling and have a happy outlook.

Plus to meet me you wouldn't know probably even 1% that I had depression, as I guess you become good at being fake happy to mask it.

What's happened in your case, is that you probably get anxiety, wondering if people like you or not etc and that my advice to that is - who give a f*ck what anyone thinks ? that's the scars of bullying during a time when your mind was impressionable in your youth.

It can manifest and lead to anger / general unhappiness, even OCD and bulimia in the worst cases. It's the mind looking inwards towards yourself, like an unhappy parrot plucking it's own feathers out.

You probably need someone to talk it through with mate, it doesn't have to be a professional - let those incidents loose from your mind. Almost like that scene from the Green Mile where he sucks the cancer out of the wife of the warden's body.

Kids and teenagers can be very cruel but I say F*ck bullies and f*ck what people think in general. Be the best version of yourself than a fake smiling copy of everyone else. Amen !

[hurlock]

Everyone suffers depression/stress & it can manifest & take out the strongest!!
I suffer from downers feeling low then I have mad highs almost bi polarish at times.you just have to see it as a cloud above your head that moves along eventually.i was fine in my teens & early twentys until a few things happened in my personal life which I think emotionally scarred me.