The ref was using his fingers whilst counting aswell though!jameswilson wrote:It's down to him not understanding English obviously. There won't be any controversy in the same way there was Chisora it was clear he misjudged it and wasn't on the way up.columbo wrote:The dozey pudendum messed up the count!
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he was too busy looking at frampton and not the ref. blame the fighter.
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ThereByTheGrace
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It s a great shot that put him down. He wasn't interested, if he was he would've got up instead of nodding and looking at Frampton.
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Bit of an anti climax awesome shot though can't wait for Frampton Santa Cruz
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Yeah he totally took his eye off the count which was a massive error.Glass Joe wrote:he was too busy looking at frampton and not the ref. blame the fighter.
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ttornado
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Frampton hit him with one clean left and he gave up.jameswilson wrote:
It's down to him not understanding English obviously.
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jameswilson
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Which is why I'm a bit puzzled. I mean even ourselves as fans who can't speak Spanish I'm sure most of us know when to get up if the ref is counting in Spanish.columbo wrote:The ref was using his fingers whilst counting aswell though!jameswilson wrote:It's down to him not understanding English obviously. There won't be any controversy in the same way there was Chisora it was clear he misjudged it and wasn't on the way up.columbo wrote:The dozey pudendum messed up the count!
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handsofstone
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There should be no controversy here. Cazares made an arse of count. That's all. Delighted for Frampton but poor ending
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If Frampton-Santa Cruz happened in Belfast I might have to venture over for that.
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Was a great shot as well, that shouldn't be forgotten, Cazares went down heavily, even though he fucked up the count. Time for Santa Cruz now, bring him to Belfast in the summer.jameswilson wrote:It's down to him not understanding English obviously. There won't be any controversy in the same way there was Chisora it was clear he misjudged it and wasn't on the way up.columbo wrote:The dozey pudendum messed up the count!
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As others have said, he took his eye of the ref right near the end of the count to look at Frampton. Considering his experience completely mad.jameswilson wrote:Which is why I'm a bit puzzled. I mean even ourselves as fans who can't speak Spanish I'm sure most of us know when to get up if the ref is counting in Spanish.columbo wrote:The ref was using his fingers whilst counting aswell though!jameswilson wrote:
It's down to him not understanding English obviously. There won't be any controversy in the same way there was Chisora it was clear he misjudged it and wasn't on the way up.
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ttornado
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I was thinking the same.columbo wrote:If Frampton-Santa Cruz happened in Belfast I might have to venture over for that.
Amazing atmosphere, great fight.
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ttornado wrote:Frampton hit him with one clean left and he gave up.jameswilson wrote:
It's down to him not understanding English obviously.
Yep
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I speak enough Spanish to understand what's going on with a count, definitely at least to 8 and I can certainly count the referee's fingers.jameswilson wrote:Which is why I'm a bit puzzled. I mean even ourselves as fans who can't speak Spanish I'm sure most of us know when to get up if the ref is counting in Spanish.columbo wrote:The ref was using his fingers whilst counting aswell though!jameswilson wrote:
It's down to him not understanding English obviously. There won't be any controversy in the same way there was Chisora it was clear he misjudged it and wasn't on the way up.
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mickey1975
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It can be the start of your European tour.columbo wrote:If Frampton-Santa Cruz happened in Belfast I might have to venture over for that.
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Me too, been a while since I was over in Ireland, was looking at a trip over last year, maybe Frampton will drag me over.ttornado wrote:I was thinking the same.columbo wrote:If Frampton-Santa Cruz happened in Belfast I might have to venture over for that.
Amazing atmosphere, great fight.
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handsofstone
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Did I hear right? Did Bernard or Brian say they thought ref shoulda made the count more clear to Hugo. Maybe not? But if they did surely if you can't understand English very good then maybe concentrate on the big fingers an inch from your eyes instead of looking away
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Oh you're such a saucy little buggermickey1975 wrote:It can be the start of your European tour.columbo wrote:If Frampton-Santa Cruz happened in Belfast I might have to venture over for that.
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handsofstone wrote:Did I hear right? Did Bernard or Brian say they thought ref shoulda made the count more clear to Hugo. Maybe not? But if they did surely if you can't understand English very good then maybe concentrate on the big fingers an inch from your eyes instead of looking away
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Gary Hyde has just offered to bring Rigo to Belfast on twitter. Would enjoy seeing it but I think Carl should leave that one till he's fought Santa Cruz or Quigg.
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Agreecolumbo wrote:Gary Hyde has just offered to bring Rigo to Belfast on twitter. Would enjoy seeing it but I think Carl should leave that one till he's fought Santa Cruz or Quigg.
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I i not know that the ref was speaking Spanish, but even if he was - he was still showing the number of fingers. Language doesn't come in to the conversation. An it shouldn't be use as an "out"...jameswilson wrote:Which is why I'm a bit puzzled. I mean even ourselves as fans who can't speak Spanish I'm sure most of us know when to get up if the ref is counting in Spanish.
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columbo wrote:If Frampton-Santa Cruz happened in Belfast I might have to venture over for that.
Gentlemen, I'ssay there is absolutely 0% chance of that fight taking place over here.expe wrote:Time for Santa Cruz now, bring him to Belfast in the summer.
Why would Santa Cruz give up home advantage against a potentially dangerous opponent?
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True! However if it does you need to show me around!Crease wrote:columbo wrote:If Frampton-Santa Cruz happened in Belfast I might have to venture over for that.Gentlemen, I'ssay there is absolutely 0% chance of that fight taking place over here.expe wrote:Time for Santa Cruz now, bring him to Belfast in the summer.
Why would Santa Cruz give up home advantage against a potentially dangerous opponent?
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I thought Cazares knew exactly what he was doing but just didn't want to be seen as a quitter. As soon as I saw him hobbling about and stretching after the low blow I thought he'd felt the strength of Frampton and didn't really want to know.
Fantastic shot by Frampton, couldn't have asked for anything more.
Fantastic shot by Frampton, couldn't have asked for anything more.