I have never been sold on Andy Lee

[Michael bennt]

Never rated him as a pro and always though he got big fights and publicity of his amateur pedigree and his Emanuel steward connection, I pick Billy joe, Mathew macklin, Nick Blackwell and am gonna probably get stick for this but Chris Eubanks jr to all beat him up, lee got a gift last night over a career welterweight journeyman in Denmark

[BigRed]

same here, i thought his party was over when he met craig mcqewan (spelling?) pity craig gassed out, would have saved us looking at him!

[danconnollyeire]

He's an average world level operator (if that makes sense). Good enough for world level, never quite good enough for a world title. Sort of in the Magee, Macklin bracket as in will give anyone a decent fight

[Wales]

same here, i thought his party was over when he met craig mcqewan (spelling?) pity craig gassed out, would have saved us looking at him!

I remember Craig Mcewan being tipped as next big thing. British, trained in US, dogs baleros of a fighter. Saw him live in Vegas night before Hatton Mayweather. I expected Barcelona and got Rushden Diamonds. He was so overated in the UK just because he was in wildcard.

[crusader]

He's an average world level operator (if that makes sense). Good enough for world level, never quite good enough for a world title. Sort of in the Magee, Macklin bracket as in will give anyone a decent fight

I wouldn't rate him that highly. He's struggled multiple times with mediocre opponents and winning a few rounds against Chavez before getting stopped doesn't make him world level.

[Michael bennt]

He's an average world level operator (if that makes sense). Good enough for world level, never quite good enough for a world title. Sort of in the Magee, Macklin bracket as in will give anyone a decent fight

Don't insult macklin or Magee

[mickey1975]

Who are you Michael?

[Michael bennt]

Who are you Michael?

Who am I? Why should you know me? Should I be someone? What type of question is that?

[lefty]

[Michael bennt]

[jessi]

He beats an even more average macklin

[crusader]

I think Macklin would stop Lee.

[jessi]

I think Macklin would stop Lee.

i think the old macklin might off

[whiskey]

This thread reminded me of John Duddy.

He lost on points to Chavez and literally just jacked in.

He'd have been interesting for these mythical Irishman fights (that never happen)

[rhino222]

He's an average world level operator (if that makes sense). Good enough for world level, never quite good enough for a world title. Sort of in the Magee, Macklin bracket as in will give anyone a decent fight

I wouldn't rate him that highly. He's struggled multiple times with mediocre opponents and winning a few rounds against Chavez before getting stopped doesn't make him world level.

absolutely spot on, he is hanging off kronk coattails. Not sure what ad booth saw in him, I see lee losing to many british mids including eubank jnr. He just eats far far too many shots. Good scrap would be lee v etches.

Lee is no where near fringe world level. Nice guy he may be but its not a popularity contest.

[Deno1986]

Duddy had sense to realise that he couldn't keep taking as many headshots as he was taking. He was a tidy boxer with a massive heart but he used his face as his defense. I'm glad he packed it in when he did. He was one step short of fighting for a world title which is a pity.

[whiskey]

Duddy had sense to realise that he couldn't keep taking as many headshots as he was taking. He was a tidy boxer with a massive heart but he used his face as his defense. I'm glad he packed it in when he did. He was one step short of fighting for a world title which is a pity.

He could have been the next Mickey Ward or Gatti - with the slur to match.

He could have been that type of fighter, but at what cost to his health like you say.

Still, he is a short but interesting footnote in Irish middleweight history.

[JC]

Duddy's fight with Smichet was ridiculous for the amount of head shots each guy took.

Pavlik/Duddy was on the cards at one point, would have been a fun first few rounds.