B J Saunders
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TerribleTerry
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W@rren has always had a good 'relationship' with the WBO but Nr 1 contender status without facing a highly ranked contender is pushing it a bit IMO.
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He's literally fought no one in their top 15TerribleTerry wrote:W@rren has always had a good 'relationship' with the WBO but Nr 1 contender status without facing a highly ranked contender is pushing it a bit IMO.
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I know these "International" and "Inter-Continental" titles help get you ranked with the affiliated association, but Saunders being ranked number 1 is tough to fathom.
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Mr Warren must have photos of Fransisco Vacarcel in a compramising situation.TerribleTerry wrote:W@rren has always had a good 'relationship' with the WBO but Nr 1 contender status without facing a highly ranked contender is pushing it a bit IMO.
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mickey1975
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Nowhere near as bad as actually getting Purdy a shot at Alexander, whatever the circumstances.
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That was a load of shit too.mickey1975 wrote:Nowhere near as bad as actually getting Purdy a shot at Alexander, whatever the circumstances.
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JimJim2009
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That position helps on the financial side of things / future options, but does BJS beat Quillan ?
And can BJS's promoter dig deep to bring the WBO champ over to the UK to create home advantage ?
And can BJS's promoter dig deep to bring the WBO champ over to the UK to create home advantage ?
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I don't think he'll beat Quillan; I don't think Saunders has the power to cut it at real world level, he has European level skills and fitness and British level power; to be fair he has time on his side but he'll not beat any titlist at middleweight this year or next.
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Do ratings actually matter anymore? Not sure I would have put Stuart Hall in top 10 bantams, or Martin Ward but both got shots at a world title. boxrec has Hall at 16 which I still think is very generous and yet he is a world champ...go figure...if the promoter has the influence and the cash to pay sanction fees you get the shot.
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Totally agreepalooka wrote:I don't think he'll beat Quillan; I don't think Saunders has the power to cut it at real world level, he has European level skills and fitness and British level power; to be fair he has time on his side but he'll not beat any titlist at middleweight this year or next.
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Yep you're right shots are bought and not fought for.Broomhall wrote:Do ratings actually matter anymore? Not sure I would have put Stuart Hall in top 10 bantams, or Martin Ward but both got shots at a world title. boxrec has Hall at 16 which I still think is very generous and yet he is a world champ...go figure...if the promoter has the influence and the cash to pay sanction fees you get the shot.
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Teddy's Toupee
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He has photos of him wearing sandals WITH socks.palooka wrote:Mr Warren must have photos of Fransisco Vacarcel in a compramising situation.TerribleTerry wrote:W@rren has always had a good 'relationship' with the WBO but Nr 1 contender status without facing a highly ranked contender is pushing it a bit IMO.
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Boxing Prospect
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Out of interest, who would you have above him?Broomhall wrote:Do ratings actually matter anymore? Not sure I would have put Stuart Hall in top 10 bantams, or Martin Ward but both got shots at a world title. boxrec has Hall at 16 which I still think is very generous and yet he is a world champ...go figure...if the promoter has the influence and the cash to pay sanction fees you get the shot.
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Lockett and Jennings got gifted WBO rankings being with Frank in the past, despite one sided affairs it was their biggest pay day, looks like a wide points win for Quillin if it did happen.
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I think the Boxrec ratings have BJ Saunders rating a bit low at 22-he is better than Jarrod Fletcher I think, also beats lemiuex and the Dane neilson imo. I havent seen Shibata or Truax and a couple of the other guys in there but I think he beats Curtis Stevens and I think Murray and Mackiln might be a bit strong for him at the moment.Boxing Prospect wrote:Out of interest, who would you have above him?Broomhall wrote:Do ratings actually matter anymore? Not sure I would have put Stuart Hall in top 10 bantams, or Martin Ward but both got shots at a world title. boxrec has Hall at 16 which I still think is very generous and yet he is a world champ...go figure...if the promoter has the influence and the cash to pay sanction fees you get the shot.
On saying that BJS is a very talented guy and I do feel is capable of winning a world title in the next 18 months-2 years with a bit of luck.
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Boxing Prospect
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I meant Stuart Hall and his #16 boxrec ranking.Broomhall wrote:I think the Boxrec ratings have BJ Saunders rating a bit low at 22-he is better than Jarrod Fletcher I think, also beats lemiuex and the Dane neilson imo. I havent seen Shibata or Truax and a couple of the other guys in there but I think he beats Curtis Stevens and I think Murray and Mackiln might be a bit strong for him at the moment.Boxing Prospect wrote:Out of interest, who would you have above him?Broomhall wrote:Do ratings actually matter anymore? Not sure I would have put Stuart Hall in top 10 bantams, or Martin Ward but both got shots at a world title. boxrec has Hall at 16 which I still think is very generous and yet he is a world champ...go figure...if the promoter has the influence and the cash to pay sanction fees you get the shot.
On saying that BJS is a very talented guy and I do feel is capable of winning a world title in the next 18 months-2 years with a bit of luck.
Shibata Vs Saunders would be interesting. I don't think Saunders hits any harder than Nakagawa (so we won't see Shibata get taken out quickly) but Saunder's would have the speed to match the Japanese and Oriental champion...be a pretty interesting one with Saunders winning competitively IMO.
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Glass Joe wrote:Lockett and Jennings got gifted WBO rankings being with Frank in the past, despite one sided affairs it was their biggest pay day, looks like a wide points win for Quillin if it did happen.
yeah and Quillin v Saunders would be another one sided affair to complete the set.
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Stevens would be a dangerous opponent but like you say I'd have Murray and probably Macklin ahead of him.Broomhall wrote:I think the Boxrec ratings have BJ Saunders rating a bit low at 22-he is better than Jarrod Fletcher I think, also beats lemiuex and the Dane neilson imo. I havent seen Shibata or Truax and a couple of the other guys in there but I think he beats Curtis Stevens and I think Murray and Mackiln might be a bit strong for him at the moment.Boxing Prospect wrote:Out of interest, who would you have above him?Broomhall wrote:Do ratings actually matter anymore? Not sure I would have put Stuart Hall in top 10 bantams, or Martin Ward but both got shots at a world title. boxrec has Hall at 16 which I still think is very generous and yet he is a world champ...go figure...if the promoter has the influence and the cash to pay sanction fees you get the shot.
On saying that BJS is a very talented guy and I do feel is capable of winning a world title in the next 18 months-2 years with a bit of luck.