Hopkins/Shumenov (with undercard)

[JeanClaude Van Damme]

Yahoo. LMAO. You lost all credibility quoting Yahoo.

Their rep was Kevin Iole. He's not the best, but at least not Lederman.

[Baby Face Finster]

bhop continuing to dominate is a testament to how great and underrated joe calzaghe really is

Was.

hes still great and underrated. resumes dont change with age.

The wording is just weird. It makes it sound like he is still fighting. No one says Ali is great, they say Ali was great.

[lefty]

Hmm very interesting that Hopkins didnt mention Oscar once there but yet highly praised Schaefer and co.

Isn't Oscar like a lame duck as far as promoting goes. They just use his name..all the other's do the grunt work.

Oscar is the one who brought Hopkins into HIS promotion.

I dont think they care anymore.

[JeanClaude Van Damme]

Ya, BHOP gets outlanded by about 100 punches, but hey, he's crafty and all that.

Compubox is a bigger joke than Duane Ford.

[MachoTime]

Hmm very interesting that Hopkins didnt mention Oscar once there but yet highly praised Schaefer and co.

Isn't Oscar like a lame duck as far as promoting goes. They just use his name..all the other's do the grunt work.

That's the impression I get. I dont think Oscar does anything aside from snorting a ton of coke and shagging whores most likely from the proceeds of the business

[big train express]

^^^

but when all is said and done do you say that you were the GOAT or that you are the GOAT? if you say you were the goat then that means someone has surpassed you. i know its weird but its correct.

[Baby Face Finster]

Yahoo. LMAO. You lost all credibility quoting Yahoo.

Their rep was Kevin Iole. He's not the best, but at least not Lederman.

For every one you name you can also find someone else who thought Calzaghe won. It doesn't matter what you or me think though because in the history books it's a Calzaghe win and forever will be one. You don't have to like it just like I don't like Floyd Mayweather's win over Jose Luis Castillo in their first fight.

[crusader]

Ya, BHOP gets outlanded by about 100 punches, but hey, he's crafty and all that.

Compubox is a bigger joke than Duane Ford.

I don't need Compubox to see that Joe was outlanding Hopkins in almost every round. He put him into a shell for most of the contest and bossed him around, and I have no clue how anyone can think that Hopkins somehow overcame that by being way more effective. What was so effective about his work anyway?

[JeanClaude Van Damme]

Ya, BHOP gets outlanded by about 100 punches, but hey, he's crafty and all that.

Compubox is a bigger joke than Duane Ford.

I don't need Compubox to see that Joe was outlanding Hopkins in almost every round. He put him into a shell for most of the contest and bossed him around, and I have no clue how anyone can think that Hopkins somehow overcame that by being way more effective. What was so effective about his work anyway?

The scoring criteria is clean, effective punches. Slaps are mentioned nowhere.

lol @ "bossing around"

[crusader]

LOL--that's about three seconds of the fight and one of Hopkins' only notable moments.

[JeanClaude Van Damme]

Few is better than none. Joe landed zero significant punches that fight.


Hunting wabbits...





Windmill!





Joe cruising in the late rounds while Hopkins tries to turn it up.

[crusader]

Three gifs of Hopkins not landing anything and getting roughed up--that's your defense?

[zorndeslammes]

That people still feel the need to go invading unrelated threads to defend Joe Calzaghe when he isn't even being brought up is more telling than any defense of Joe's career could ever be.

[crusader]

Ya, "It's a credit to Joe Calzaghe that he didn't let Bernard dictate the pace to his liking the way he has done with so many of his fights in the last 6 years" is such an egregious comment.

[zorndeslammes]

Joe Calzaghe hasn't fought since 2008. Nobody gives a damn about Joe Calzaghe any more except some delusional types who think he beat murderer's row defending that WBO strap for umpteen years. This fight means as much for his legacy as it does Segundo Mercado's, Jean Pascal's, Jermain Taylor's, or Chad Dawson's, which is none. The win adds to exactly one person's legacy, which is B-Hop. Not for someone who retired back when Shumenov was still fighting at go-kart tracks.

[crusader]

LOL.......wut?

It was a simple comment that he did a good job of not fighting Hopkins' fight, which so many of Hopkins' opponents, including Shumenov have done. Then someone brought up the unrelated point of the knockdown, and that's how the banter started. If you think that is somehow 'telling', good for you.

[zorndeslammes]

Meanwhile, over in the main forum....

[crusader]

Exactly.....over in a different part of the forum with different posters and a thread specifically made for the topic

Maybe Hopkins' recent success shouldn't add to Joe's legacy, but I think it's debatable.

[zorndeslammes]

It is debatable within reason. At some point, it turns into self parody, which is what the thread on the Current Scene board is. Nobody is gonna stand up and honestly argue that Winky Wright beating Trinidad, Mosley, and drawing with Taylor seriously improved Harry Simon's legacy nor should they.

[crusader]

I don't think they'd argue because Simon isn't a high profile fighter who gets discussed much. If they were to evaluate his career though, I wouldn't be surprised if many people rated him more highly after Wright had those performances.

The initial comment in this thread was just related to one Calzaghe fight anyway; it didn't imply that tonight's fight greatly boosted his legacy.

[victor-romeo]

Honestly, I had to turn the channel on the BHop fight after round 3. I was literally falling asleep. I get it. He's old and good. But dang, he is a pain in the ass to sit through. Sure, what he has done at his age is remarkable. But I won't fret a single bit if I never sit through one of his fights ever again.

I agree that was a boring a$$ fight, and Malinagi should pack it it while he can still speak in coherent sentences..