Khan-Collazo

[Bard of Boxrec]

Poll is interesting.

You have 46 per cent picking Collazo by KO. Some of these may or may not be influenced by the OP and other comments on the first page. Either way, 4/1 is still available on Collazo stoppage...

I may be piling more money into this yet.

[whiskey]

who would have put a young kid like him in with Prescott, so early in his career.

And you profess to know about boxing ?

Amir Khan 18-0 vs Briedis Prescott 19-0

The completely unheralded Prescott destroyed Khan in 60 seconds with a jab and a couple of hooks. Prior to that nobody had even heard of him, as he'd fought total bums and novices. People were up in arms that not only had the greedy little shít demanded to be on pay-per-view to meet his ridiculous demands, but that he wanted such a portion of the sales that the kitty was non-existant for an actual 'name' opponent of any merit.

Served him right.

[Broomhall]

wow sense the animosity!! I wouldnt say the people that Khan fought up until Prescott where bums and novices-guys like Willie Limond, Graham Earl, Michael Gomez (who had him hurt, as did Limond) Stefy Bull, Ryan Barratt-all good pros, not a bum or novice amongst that lot-not world class by any means-but all good pros and all capable at british level.

Khan did negotiate the best deal he could get, and why not? as was proved that night a boxers career can be over in a matter of seconds. They have to secure the best deal they can everytime they fight-why is that greedy?

This whole business is about making money in about the 4/5 years you are at the top if you are lucky. If it was about cups and medals they would stay amateur. I would never call a fighter greedy, they should squeeze every penny they can get out of the game. You might not like Khan but the guy has made the most of what he has to maximise the cash he gets.

[Final round]

Yep Gomez REALLY hates Khan..

[Anzi]

Breidis Prescott was brought in because he had looked so befuddled by the genuinely slick Richard Abril in his previous fight. Of course Abril fought through a broken jaw and turned out to be made of sterner stuff than Amir Khan. Prescott has subsequently been a relatively safe opponent for a number of prospects.

Khan obviously has talent. He is fun to watch, regardless of his prima donna personality outside the ring. But he has hugely benefitted from powerful connections & very careful match making. A boxer like Abril, with Khan's same pampering, could have surely beaten all the same guys, and beaten the guys Khan lost to as well.

I just think Collazo fundamentally is too solid, too game, too much of everything. I'm sure Khan will bully him early as Hatton did, but Collazo always comes through it and starts to test his opponent. And when Khan gets tested he fails.

You talking about the same Current WBA world Champion Abril, who was robbed against Brandon Rios, both in the ring and on the scales, what is your point ? He broke Abril's jaw, you say and had a big knockout record, that is being over protected is it ? a safe opponent ? Careful matchmaking ? I have come to the conclusion, I am afraid, that you do not have a clue about boxing, either that or your mind is so anti Khan, you can't think straight, because you don't make sense, like many Khan haters, " he has not beat anyone " yet he has won multiple world titles " he can't punch" yet he has stopped some top class durable guys, "he has no chin " he is fighting at world level, top fighters can put you away, simple, the same guys who say such things, see fighters at area or national level and comment what a good chins they have, Khan went the distance with Maidana, while out on his feet, for crying out loud, yes his chin is not the best, not Froch like, just not as bad has fools make out.

[Tuan_Jim]

Oh, I see. They shouldn't have selected Breidis Prescott as an opponent because several years later Richard Abril would win a WBA belt. Very good logic and reason.

Yes, Prescott did look a relatively safe opponent for a genuine top class boxer. A one-dimensional type that world class fighters would easily outwit. He has proven to be exactly what Team Khan expected him to be. Only Khan couldn't handle him.

The rest of your post is just too garbled and mad to address. Relax, crack open a can and enjoy the fight. Whoever wins it is guaranteed to be very good.

[MightyWarrior]

Prescott was seen as a laughable opponent at the time, just because Sky were pushing it as the pay-per-view launch for Amir Khan, which sucked.

But he was known as a puncher, and 80-1 for a KO in round 1 made it a good night at the pub

Khan has been matched cleverly early in his career, but that's what you get when you're an Olympic silver medallist with an exciting style.

[palooka]

To be fair to him he was also matched carefully because he was 18 years old and had been dropped hard as an amateur (Craig Watson) and dropped out of the ABAs rather than box Michael Grant who was stopping people left and right.

Millions of people knew who he was after he did so well at the Olympics - it takes excellent professional boxers years and years and very tough fights to get that sort of recognition. Who as a promoter wasn't going to be careful with him?

80 to 1 on a 1st round KO for Prescott looks a good bet now but no one had seen him fight in Britain at the time - it was man against boy but at least the boy tried to get up - there are dozens of boxers who'd have pretended to be out of it or knocked cold.

[ThereByTheGrace]

I don't see much point in the Prescott fight as Khan was caught cold and paid the price. Since then he has proven to have a decent chin (but not glass).

Khan will win on Saturday for the following reasons:

- Khan is extremely adept at frustrating southpaw fighters. He stays switched on against them because he knows he has to.
- Collazo has not fought anyone of note for at least 3/4 years (Victor Ortiz is shot to pieces)
- Khan has recently signed with Al Haymon, which makes me think they know something you lot don't

I'm not the biggest fan of Khan, but speed kills in boxing and he will make Collazo look stationery. Late stoppage with Collazo blowing out of his erse after 9 or 10.

[palooka]

I don't see much point in the Prescott fight as Khan was caught cold and paid the price. Since then he has proven to have a decent chin (but not glass).

Khan will win on Saturday for the following reasons:

- Khan is extremely adept at frustrating southpaw fighters. He stays switched on against them because he knows he has to.
- Collazo has not fought anyone of note for at least 3/4 years (Victor Ortiz is shot to pieces)
- Khan has recently signed with Al Haymon, which makes me think they know something you lot don't

I'm not the biggest fan of Khan, but speed kills in boxing and he will make Collazo look stationery. Late stoppage with Collazo blowing out of his erse after 9 or 10.

Good points and I especially agree with the highlighted - he managed to lose to one of the fellows and got dropped with a body punch; Khan whips them in under the elbows

[ThereByTheGrace]

I don't see much point in the Prescott fight as Khan was caught cold and paid the price. Since then he has proven to have a decent chin (but not glass).

Khan will win on Saturday for the following reasons:

- Khan is extremely adept at frustrating southpaw fighters. He stays switched on against them because he knows he has to.
- Collazo has not fought anyone of note for at least 3/4 years (Victor Ortiz is shot to pieces)
- Khan has recently signed with Al Haymon, which makes me think they know something you lot don't

I'm not the biggest fan of Khan, but speed kills in boxing and he will make Collazo look stationery. Late stoppage with Collazo blowing out of his erse after 9 or 10.

Good points and I especially agree with the highlighted - he managed to lose to one of the fellows and got dropped with a body punch; Khan whips them in under the elbows

My money's on Khan Palooka. It's a fight he MUST win (and look good in), to get the golden carrot against Mayweather. I think he'll do it.

If you replaced Collazo with Porter, Maidana or even Brook. I would re-think backing Khan, but Collazo is done.

[Final round]

To be fair to him he was also matched carefully because he was 18 years old and had been dropped hard as an amateur (Craig Watson) and dropped out of the ABAs rather than box Michael Grant who was stopping people left and right.

Millions of people knew who he was after he did so well at the Olympics - it takes excellent professional boxers years and years and very tough fights to get that sort of recognition. Who as a promoter wasn't going to be careful with him?

80 to 1 on a 1st round KO for Prescott looks a good bet now but no one had seen him fight in Britain at the time - it was man against boy but at least the boy tried to get up - there are dozens of boxers who'd have pretended to be out of it or knocked cold.

Good post

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I don't see much point in the Prescott fight as Khan was caught cold and paid the price. Since then he has proven to have a decent chin (but not glass).

Khan will win on Saturday for the following reasons:

- Khan is extremely adept at frustrating southpaw fighters. He stays switched on against them because he knows he has to.
- Collazo has not fought anyone of note for at least 3/4 years (Victor Ortiz is shot to pieces)
- Khan has recently signed with Al Haymon, which makes me think they know something you lot don't

I'm not the biggest fan of Khan, but speed kills in boxing and he will make Collazo look stationery. Late stoppage with Collazo blowing out of his erse after 9 or 10.

And that one

[palooka]

Thank you

[Tuan_Jim]

Wow, if Collazo was so vulnerable to body punches you'd have really thought Ricky Hatton would have exploited it.

I think Collazo will be in the sort of shape he was for Hatton, rather than the low profile fight he lost which I suspect had its own storyline.

[ThereByTheGrace]

Wow, if Collazo was so vulnerable to body punches you'd have really thought Ricky Hatton would have exploited it.

I think Collazo will be in the sort of shape he was for Hatton, rather than the low profile fight he lost which I suspect had its own storyline.

But that was 7 years ago mate. An awful long time in Boxing.

[Tuan_Jim]

Wow, if Collazo was so vulnerable to body punches you'd have really thought Ricky Hatton would have exploited it.

I think Collazo will be in the sort of shape he was for Hatton, rather than the low profile fight he lost which I suspect had its own storyline.

But that was 7 years ago mate. An awful long time in Boxing.

A very fair point. I suppose what I am saying is that he has been in superb condition for his big fights. Who knows what state he was physically and mentally for a nothing-fight with Hernandez? I think he will bring plenty to this fight.

[palooka]

Collazo does come in very good shape every bout and has his feet on the floor. To be fair to Hatton he was far better at light welter than welter even as an amateur and had problems boxing southpaws. Luis Collazo is a really good fighter and comes across as a very decent man; I think he'll be chasing a lot on Saturday night and he won't like what comes back at him. I'd pick Garcia over Collazo and the Peterson loss was very iffy, Khan is top level and may be just coming into his prime whereas Collazo is a fair bit older and has more miles on the clock. Should be a good fight though.

[Broomhall]

I don't see much point in the Prescott fight as Khan was caught cold and paid the price. Since then he has proven to have a decent chin (but not glass).

Khan will win on Saturday for the following reasons:

- Khan is extremely adept at frustrating southpaw fighters. He stays switched on against them because he knows he has to.
- Collazo has not fought anyone of note for at least 3/4 years (Victor Ortiz is shot to pieces)
- Khan has recently signed with Al Haymon, which makes me think they know something you lot don't

I'm not the biggest fan of Khan, but speed kills in boxing and he will make Collazo look stationery. Late stoppage with Collazo blowing out of his erse after 9 or 10.

I just dont see how you can say the guy has a decent chin-I like Khan-but you would have to have blinkers on to say he has a decent chin-Gomez had him going, Limmond had him going, Prescott had him OUT etc etc when have you seen another top 10 fighter wobbled, hurt, knocked over so much???

That is part of the excitement with Khan, but decent chin?

[palooka]

Though to be fair to Khan; Gomez was a big hitter who had knocked a lot out, Prescott was a big hitter, Garcia is a big hitter. Limond is a red flag but Khan has faced some pretty decent hitters.

[Tuan_Jim]

Collazo does come in very good shape every bout and has his feet on the floor.

Collazo has full-time job as a bread delivery man. The Andre Berto fight was the first time he was able to enjoy a full training camp. Few boxers have the luxury of Amir Khan's life position. Their out-the-ring distractions tend to be thrust upon them by life, as opposed to celeb boxers who have a lot of free time and tend to create personal messes with their own volition. I'll forgive a guy juggling boxing, wife & kids and a full-time blue collar job the odd below-par performance - particularly in a 10 round fight undercard bout.

Collazo has had a full training camp for Khan and will be a different beast to the out of shape guy who lost to Hernandez.

Khan? Logic says same old same old.

[palooka]

Collazo does come in very good shape every bout and has his feet on the floor.

Collazo has full-time job as a bread delivery man. The Andre Berto fight was the first time he was able to enjoy a full training camp. Few boxers have the luxury of Amir Khan's life position. Their out-the-ring distractions tend to be thrust upon them by life, as opposed to celeb boxers who have a lot of free time and tend to create personal messes with their own volition. I'll forgive a guy juggling boxing, wife & kids and a full-time blue collar job the odd below-par performance - particularly in a 10 round fight undercard bout.

Collazo has had a full training camp for Khan and will be a different beast to the out of shape guy who lost to Hernandez.

Khan? Logic says same old same old.

I agree with your sentiment and generally support the blue collar boxer and it has to be said that Khan earned his luxurious position by doing well at the Olympics as a 17 year old. No one picked him up and took him to the top wrapped in cotton wool. Collazo could have gone to the Olympics at 17 and done well if he'd been good enough. High achieving amateurs get preferential treatment - every boxer knows that.

[lefty]

Collazo does come in very good shape every bout and has his feet on the floor.

Collazo has full-time job as a bread delivery man. The Andre Berto fight was the first time he was able to enjoy a full training camp. Few boxers have the luxury of Amir Khan's life position. Their out-the-ring distractions tend to be thrust upon them by life, as opposed to celeb boxers who have a lot of free time and tend to create personal messes with their own volition. I'll forgive a guy juggling boxing, wife & kids and a full-time blue collar job the odd below-par performance - particularly in a 10 round fight undercard bout.

Collazo has had a full training camp for Khan and will be a different beast to the out of shape guy who lost to Hernandez.

Khan? Logic says same old same old.

I agree with your sentiment and generally support the blue collar boxer and it has to be said that Khan earned his luxurious position by doing well at the Olympics as a 17 year old. No one picked him up and took him to the top wrapped in cotton wool. Collazo could have gone to the Olympics at 17 and done well if he'd been good enough. High achieving amateurs get preferential treatment - every boxer knows that.

True. Although it's a lot harder to even get on the olympic squad in the US because there's such a vast amount of competition in relation to the size of the country.

[palooka]

That's a good point columbo and it looks hard enough to get to be an international level amateur in any country. Khan did fantastic to get to the Olympics and he did it by going through tough international competition to force the issue. My point is that Khan earned his shot, took full advantage of it and reaped the rewards; that is open to any boxer isn't it?

[lefty]

That's a good point columbo and it looks hard enough to get to be an international level amateur in any country. Khan did fantastic to get to the Olympics and he did it by going through tough international competition to force the issue. My point is that Khan earned his shot, took full advantage of it and reaped the rewards; that is open to any boxer isn't it?

Yeah i cant argue with that. To be an international boxer full stop you have to be talented. I just dont particularily care for Khan as a person. Very athletically gifted guy although I dont think his boxing brain is as quick as his hands and feet.