Betting thread

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palooka wrote:Gambling on boxing isn't 'free money' as someone said earlier this week, it's a way to add to the enjoyment of watching - not a way to make a living.
As long as there's value (and with boxing, there frequently is) there is a way of profiting. And as long as there is a way of profiting, there is a way of making a living.

I'm not saying many can do it - I certainly wouldn't want to - but it can be done and I'm sure is being done.

For a lot of us, boxing is just a nice way to supplement income. :TU:
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Yeah, I imagine it can be done but you'd need a pot and be disciplined about it. There are people that consider themselves experts on all kinds of sports and gamble daily; they only seem to tell people when they've won though.

Best of luck if you're able to do it properly; it looks better than working.
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palooka wrote:Yeah, I imagine it can be done but you'd need a pot and be disciplined about it. There are people that consider themselves experts on all kinds of sports and gamble daily; they only seem to tell people when they've won though.

Best of luck if you're able to do it properly; it looks better than working.
It's probably absolutely torturous compared to working! I guess some people handle the swings better than others though. Plus you would constantly be having to worry about being screened or banned from sites. Pinnacle Sports would be your only reliable online option.
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I doubt you'd be able to just make a living off boxing. There just aren't enough fights to pick and few with real value. You'd end up betting on fights you didn't want to (as I have in the past). If you start with a nice few quid and bet like your life depends on it you can make a regular tidy profit. I have bets screened, limits placed and have had a right game with the bookies in the past (particularly bet365) which can be a pain but there are so many on-line outlets now you can usually get a bet on or lay what you want. If all else fails just pop into a high street bookies. Bet what you can afford to lose. My pattern is and has been for the last few years to have around 3 large bets a year (i don't plan for 3 it's just that there are usually 3 or 4 that take my fancy every year).If they come in your laughing as you can afford to bet for value or even hunches and if they come in great. It's all swings and roundabouts but I manage to keep my head above water year after year but would never consider try it professionally. It's just nice to put away a bit if you win and adds a bit of spice to the fights you've bet on.
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The Insider wrote:I doubt you'd be able to just make a living off boxing. There just aren't enough fights to pick and few with real value. You'd end up betting on fights you didn't want to (as I have in the past). If you start with a nice few quid and bet like your life depends on it you can make a regular tidy profit. I have bets screened, limits placed and have had a right game with the bookies in the past (particularly bet365) which can be a pain but there are so many on-line outlets now you can usually get a bet on or lay what you want. If all else fails just pop into a high street bookies. Bet what you can afford to lose. My pattern is and has been for the last few years to have around 3 large bets a year (i don't plan for 3 it's just that there are usually 3 or 4 that take my fancy every year).If they come in your laughing as you can afford to bet for value or even hunches and if they come in great. It's all swings and roundabouts but I manage to keep my head above water year after year but would never consider try it professionally. It's just nice to put away a bit if you win and adds a bit of spice to the fights you've bet on.
Yeah, you're probably right, to make more than the bare minimum to live you would need to supplement with other sports bets.

As an aside, there was a time when online poker was like printing money. (circa 2007 and before). I was making enough to live on and it funded me through my postgrad. Good days. At the time, I could easily have made a living doing that if I chose too, but I wouldn't have wanted that lifestyle. Lucky because the poker industry has now gone to shit. It was sad, but inevitable.
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The Insider wrote:I doubt you'd be able to just make a living off boxing. There just aren't enough fights to pick and few with real value. You'd end up betting on fights you didn't want to (as I have in the past). If you start with a nice few quid and bet like your life depends on it you can make a regular tidy profit. I have bets screened, limits placed and have had a right game with the bookies in the past (particularly bet365) which can be a pain but there are so many on-line outlets now you can usually get a bet on or lay what you want. If all else fails just pop into a high street bookies. Bet what you can afford to lose. My pattern is and has been for the last few years to have around 3 large bets a year (i don't plan for 3 it's just that there are usually 3 or 4 that take my fancy every year).If they come in your laughing as you can afford to bet for value or even hunches and if they come in great. It's all swings and roundabouts but I manage to keep my head above water year after year but would never consider try it professionally. It's just nice to put away a bit if you win and adds a bit of spice to the fights you've bet on.
Great post. It would take a lot of restraint to make good money on boxing. There's usually only 3 or 4 big opportunities a year when the pricing is totally wrong.
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Im still kicking myself about talking myself out of lumping on rigondaux to beat donaire. Im sure rigo was about 4-1 at one point
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Stiverne by stoppage looks inevitable to me. Arreola's chin has been hit so many times, his punch resistance can't be improving.
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hmmm not much value around.

I'm not sold on Stalker and wonder if Hardy is worth a tiny punt at 12's?
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Anyone had a look at the world cup yet? I've had a quick look at winner and top scorer, thought argies at 5s and messi at 8s was good value so looked for the double and they were only giving 16/1! What a rip off
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Eurovision tonight and I'm on Switzerland and Azerbaijan each way at massive prices.

Choo Choo all aboard!
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Sheffield's unbeaten Kid Galahad takes on unheralded Australian Fred Mundraby for the vacant Commonwealth super-bantamweight title in Sheffield tonight.
Galahad, who holds the European title at the weight, failed to stop an ageing Spaniard two months ago in a 12-rounder, taking a unanimous decision. Frankly, I was disappointed at Galahad's lack of firepower but he possesses plenty of skill and speed, and presumably can only get better at the age of 24, backed by the Ingles.
Mundraby, 15-1-1 (7), has boxed sporadically since he was stopped in five rounds by Japan's then unbeaten Ryo Akaho in Tokyo in 2011 (corner retirement). It was his only appearance outside Oz as a pro, which hardly bodes well for this trip. Nevertheless, the 26-year-old has won Aussie titles at super-flyweight, bantamweight and super-bantamweight since turning pro in 2006 and is tough enough to hang in with Galahad for a while before his lack of activity and Galahad's class start to tell. Ultimately, this is another test of the Kid's weight of punch.
Also taking place tonight, Walsall "Quiet man" Martin Gethin defends his British lightweight title against "Dirty" Derry Mathews on away territory in Liverpool.
Gethin comes back down to earth after failing gallantly in an effort to break into world class in his last outing against Panama's Ammeth Diaz but this is still a hugely demanding match for the likeable champion against a proven champion in his own right in Mathews, who held the same British title for a short period in 2012 and was Commonwealth lightweight king until recently.
This is a difficult one to call. The pair have been out a while due to injury and simply refuse to go away after defeats and we can expect a stirring encounter as a big Liverpool crowd roars on hometowner Mathews in the exchanges but I have a sneaking feeling that Gethin has enough in his armoury to take a hard-earned decision.
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Derry Matthews by K.O @ 15/8
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The Insider wrote:Derry Matthews by K.O @ 15/8
i'm on the derry ko at 2s...lets hope he has something left. :TU:
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Under 10rds on the derry/gethin fight @ 5/4'


i actually think Gethin will stop Derry, but not confident enough not to cover arse either way here. Derry is on the slide, and wont deal with the volume coming back well IMO.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:Stiverne by stoppage looks inevitable to me. Arreola's chin has been hit so many times, his punch resistance can't be improving.



Does that same logic apply to Froch?
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Gone for the ukraniansto win along with swiss and Austria for eurovision. Liking the look of the poles though
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freddydoesdallas wrote:Gone for the ukraniansto win along with swiss and Austria for eurovision. Liking the look of the poles though
You're betting on Eurovision Song Contest, aren't there any snails to race :OhYes:
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palooka wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Gone for the ukraniansto win along with swiss and Austria for eurovision. Liking the look of the poles though
You're betting on Eurovision Song Contest, aren't there any snails to race :OhYes:
The kids in the park are refusing to race each other now so it's this or nothing!
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freddydoesdallas wrote:
palooka wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Gone for the ukraniansto win along with swiss and Austria for eurovision. Liking the look of the poles though
You're betting on Eurovision Song Contest, aren't there any snails to race :OhYes:
The kids in the park are refusing to race each other now so it's this or nothing!
:OhYes: :TU:
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freddydoesdallas wrote:Gone for the ukraniansto win along with swiss and Austria for eurovision. Liking the look of the poles though
:yay: just as I was beginning to think austria had given us nothing but hate and prejudice!
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Froch to be knocked down in the Groves fight at 3/1 looks huge to me. I know he's only been down twice in his career but I could see Groves putting him over again in the early rounds. Looks the best value bet I can see in the fight.
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SteveDow wrote:Froch to be knocked down in the Groves fight at 3/1 looks huge to me. I know he's only been down twice in his career but I could see Groves putting him over again in the early rounds. Looks the best value bet I can see in the fight.
know what you mean but surely froch won't fight the same fight that he did in the first one.
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Bennyblanco wrote:
SteveDow wrote:Froch to be knocked down in the Groves fight at 3/1 looks huge to me. I know he's only been down twice in his career but I could see Groves putting him over again in the early rounds. Looks the best value bet I can see in the fight.
know what you mean but surely froch won't fight the same fight that he did in the first one.



I think Groves may have an impact on how he fights.
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Bennyblanco wrote:
SteveDow wrote:Froch to be knocked down in the Groves fight at 3/1 looks huge to me. I know he's only been down twice in his career but I could see Groves putting him over again in the early rounds. Looks the best value bet I can see in the fight.
know what you mean but surely froch won't fight the same fight that he did in the first one.
I don't really see that Froch can do much differently. His tactics will again have to be to take Groves into the later rounds and hope to stop him late. That will mean him being fairly tentative at the start. If he comes out swinging then it's even more likely he'll be caught in my view. Basically Froch is highly likely to be taking a lot of heavy shots in this one (win or lose) and that to me makes it likely he'll be put down again at some point.
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