Betting thread

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palooka wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Stiverne by stoppage looks inevitable to me. Arreola's chin has been hit so many times, his punch resistance can't be improving.



Does that same logic apply to Froch?
It could do mate, but Arreola was stopped last time, so I thought Stiverne had his number. Thankfully for my bank balance, he did.

Difference between this and Froch-Groves is that George didn't stop Froch. Carl was the one that improved as the fight went on. He ate a lot of leather, but he never once looked like being stopped.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Stiverne by stoppage looks inevitable to me. Arreola's chin has been hit so many times, his punch resistance can't be improving.



Does that same logic apply to Froch?
It could do mate, but Arreola was stopped last time, so I thought Stiverne had his number. Thankfully for my bank balance, he did.

Difference between this and Froch-Groves is that George didn't stop Froch. Carl was the one that improved as the fight went on. He ate a lot of leather, but he never once looked like being stopped.


Apart from when he got dropped and clattered.
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Groves never looked like getting stopped. Well, to anyone other than Howard.
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palooka wrote:Apart from when he got dropped and clattered.
He got knocked down, got up and never looked like he was going to get stopped.
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We're never going to agree on this one :TU:
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palooka wrote:We're never going to agree on this one :TU:
Do you think Froch should have been stopped?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:We're never going to agree on this one :TU:
Do you think Froch should have been stopped?
I think that the referee gave Froch every possibility to get through his sticky patch and did not afford Groves the same. Froch took maybe 30 full blooded, full power shots through that fight and was rattled more than once. If Groves was so bad that he needed 'saving' then the same standard ought to have been held to Froch.
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palooka wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:We're never going to agree on this one :TU:
Do you think Froch should have been stopped?
I think that the referee gave Froch every possibility to get through his sticky patch and did not afford Groves the same. Froch took maybe 30 full blooded, full power shots through that fight and was rattled more than once. If Groves was so bad that he needed 'saving' then the same standard ought to have been held to Froch.
Is that a yes or a no?
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No and I don't think Groves should have been.

I think Froch looked more like he was going to be stopped than Groves.

I'd not stop a big world title fight easily, I'd at least wait for the man to be dropped hard or else wrapped up in the ropes.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
palooka wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Stiverne by stoppage looks inevitable to me. Arreola's chin has been hit so many times, his punch resistance can't be improving.



Does that same logic apply to Froch?
It could do mate, but Arreola was stopped last time, so I thought Stiverne had his number. Thankfully for my bank balance, he did.

Difference between this and Froch-Groves is that George didn't stop Froch. Carl was the one that improved as the fight went on. He ate a lot of leather, but he never once looked like being stopped.


Arreola wasnt stopped in the first fight.
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TheLeprechaun wrote:Arreola wasnt stopped in the first fight.
My mistake. :oops: This hangover is quite something.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:Arreola wasnt stopped in the first fight.
My mistake. :oops: This hangover is quite something.
And you're wrong about Froch too :OhYes:
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palooka wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
TheLeprechaun wrote:Arreola wasnt stopped in the first fight.
My mistake. :oops: This hangover is quite something.
And you're wrong about Froch too :OhYes:
Probably. :TU:
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Damn, easy to say in hindsight but I was about to get on the Stiverne train (outright though) but wimped out. You could get him at odds against at one point, great price. That was a chance gone begging
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Jamie McDonnell is 2/9 against Tabtimdaeng Na Rachwat (Paddy Power) that price SHOULDN'T be around for long.
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Boxing Prospect wrote:Jamie McDonnell is 2/9 against Tabtimdaeng Na Rachwat (Paddy Power) that price SHOULDN'T be around for long.
How bad is the visitor BP?
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Tabtimdaeng really isn't very good. He'd maybe give Martin Ward a good fight...
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:TU: :TU:
Boxing Prospect wrote:Tabtimdaeng really isn't very good. He'd maybe give Martin Ward a good fight...
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So, anyone seen Cleverly's comeback opponent? A 2012 win over a shot Big Truck Braithwaite is about all he's done. Does he have a chance better than the 14/1 suggests against 'Face First, Ask Questions Later' Nate?
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Riddick Blowe wrote:So, anyone seen Cleverly's comeback opponent? A 2012 win over a shot Big Truck Braithwaite is about all he's done. Does he have a chance better than the 14/1 suggests against 'Face First, Ask Questions Later' Nate?
God knows. Saturday's card is utter garbage.
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SteveDow wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:So, anyone seen Cleverly's comeback opponent? A 2012 win over a shot Big Truck Braithwaite is about all he's done. Does he have a chance better than the 14/1 suggests against 'Face First, Ask Questions Later' Nate?
God knows. Saturday's card is utter garbage.
Utter garbage? I don't know what you expect.
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WelshJack wrote:
SteveDow wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:So, anyone seen Cleverly's comeback opponent? A 2012 win over a shot Big Truck Braithwaite is about all he's done. Does he have a chance better than the 14/1 suggests against 'Face First, Ask Questions Later' Nate?
God knows. Saturday's card is utter garbage.
Utter garbage? I don't know what you expect.
1 decent fight on the bill, to go with a series of mismatches, that is more or less garbage.
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Is Paul butler really so superior to Stuart hall that he's a 3-1 on favourite? It's rare to see a challenger such a favoutite
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The only half decent fight on the bill is Rees v Buckland. As expe says, all of the other fights are utter mismatches. Just look at the bookies odds on them.
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SteveDow wrote:The only half decent fight on the bill is Rees v Buckland. As expe says, all of the other fights are utter mismatches. Just look at the bookies odds on them.
yeah this is a good fight. Not sure who wins this.
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