Fighters with the most guts

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I'm shocked that no one has mentioned Rocky Marciano.
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Agree with Ketchel's choice.....Wayne McCullough took a lot of pain and never once blinked or bitched. Think he was the one guy Hamed actually managed to show some manners to when Wayne just kept on coming at him.

Going way back, remember watching a seriously tough little Texan guy called Troy Dorsey, not much skill at all, but a monster pair of cojones and massive fitness levels that made him succesful and briefly a cult fighter. ITV showed some of his fights when I was kid and Dorsey was a proper little warrior.

Andries deserves a mention as well; virtually every time he got in the ring he got cracked but his will to win and never-say-die attitiude made him one of my favourite fighters.
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Bodyshot3 wrote:Agree with Ketchel's choice.....Wayne McCullough took a lot of pain and never once blinked or bitched. Think he was the one guy Hamed actually managed to show some manners to when Wayne just kept on coming at him.

Going way back, remember watching a seriously tough little Texan guy called Troy Dorsey, not much skill at all, but a monster pair of cojones and massive fitness levels that made him succesful and briefly a cult fighter. ITV showed some of his fights when I was kid and Dorsey was a proper little warrior.

Andries deserves a mention as well; virtually every time he got in the ring he got cracked but his will to win and never-say-die attitiude made him one of my favourite fighters.
troy Dorsey,that brings back memories,i remember itv showing his last fight against Gabriel ruelas,it was an absolute war for 6 rounds,if a belt was won by courage and fighting spirit then dorsey would have been champ forever,he was also an accomplished kick boxer and karate competitor I think
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Dorsey/Kelley was incredible. He got screwed against Paez.
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You,ve gotta love Amir Khans guts and fighting heart
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HomicideHenry wrote:If bravery, heart, courage, intestinal fortitude ("guts") is one of the greatest variables to determine a fighter's worth--- his commitment and willingness to get in their and do what needed to be done, either for the sake of winning or for the sake of survival and the betterment of his condition--- then I think James J. Braddock probably tops them all. No greater and authority than Joe Louis said that Braddock was "the most courageous man I ever fought," because no one really thought Braddock could be competitive with the up and coming phenom who blew away Carnera, Baer and Sharkey; however, Braddock was competitive and even dropped the Brown Bomber early on in the fight.

But, I have to say this, that there are hundreds, even thousands, of fighters out there who have guts. Every day, somewhere out there in the world there is some guy out there who is down on his luck, has no prospects, no help, or no real gym to go and train and one day he figures to himself, "Hey, I'll give this a shot," and puts on the gloves and he knows going into it that he will get destroyed, because he's coming in as an opponent--- and, of course, he loses and collects his check and maybe he never fights again. I may argue, that particular person has more guts and balls than someone whose fought their entire life, and is competitive with certain levels of fighters and then that person faces a tough challenge--- its expected of them to make the step up in talent eventually, so where is the guts or fortitude in what is required? No, I would argue the "weekend warrior" who may do it once, twice, or the third tiers who come in and fight monster opponents for chicken feed have more in the ball sack than the life long fighter does.
+1
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really top class post by homicide :TU:
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DaveyMac wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:If bravery, heart, courage, intestinal fortitude ("guts") is one of the greatest variables to determine a fighter's worth--- his commitment and willingness to get in their and do what needed to be done, either for the sake of winning or for the sake of survival and the betterment of his condition--- then I think James J. Braddock probably tops them all. No greater and authority than Joe Louis said that Braddock was "the most courageous man I ever fought," because no one really thought Braddock could be competitive with the up and coming phenom who blew away Carnera, Baer and Sharkey; however, Braddock was competitive and even dropped the Brown Bomber early on in the fight.

But, I have to say this, that there are hundreds, even thousands, of fighters out there who have guts. Every day, somewhere out there in the world there is some guy out there who is down on his luck, has no prospects, no help, or no real gym to go and train and one day he figures to himself, "Hey, I'll give this a shot," and puts on the gloves and he knows going into it that he will get destroyed, because he's coming in as an opponent--- and, of course, he loses and collects his check and maybe he never fights again. I may argue, that particular person has more guts and balls than someone whose fought their entire life, and is competitive with certain levels of fighters and then that person faces a tough challenge--- its expected of them to make the step up in talent eventually, so where is the guts or fortitude in what is required? No, I would argue the "weekend warrior" who may do it once, twice, or the third tiers who come in and fight monster opponents for chicken feed have more in the ball sack than the life long fighter does.
+1

Buster had the chance to have his story stand side by side with Braddocks....but I thought he did not bring the same conviction to the Holyfield fight that he did to the Tyson affair. Nothing to say bad against the man, other than his story had the potential of matching Braddock's, and even did so in the first reel, but fell short in the finale. Still overall a great run from Buster as well.
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BoxBuzz wrote:
DaveyMac wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:If bravery, heart, courage, intestinal fortitude ("guts") is one of the greatest variables to determine a fighter's worth--- his commitment and willingness to get in their and do what needed to be done, either for the sake of winning or for the sake of survival and the betterment of his condition--- then I think James J. Braddock probably tops them all. No greater and authority than Joe Louis said that Braddock was "the most courageous man I ever fought," because no one really thought Braddock could be competitive with the up and coming phenom who blew away Carnera, Baer and Sharkey; however, Braddock was competitive and even dropped the Brown Bomber early on in the fight.

But, I have to say this, that there are hundreds, even thousands, of fighters out there who have guts. Every day, somewhere out there in the world there is some guy out there who is down on his luck, has no prospects, no help, or no real gym to go and train and one day he figures to himself, "Hey, I'll give this a shot," and puts on the gloves and he knows going into it that he will get destroyed, because he's coming in as an opponent--- and, of course, he loses and collects his check and maybe he never fights again. I may argue, that particular person has more guts and balls than someone whose fought their entire life, and is competitive with certain levels of fighters and then that person faces a tough challenge--- its expected of them to make the step up in talent eventually, so where is the guts or fortitude in what is required? No, I would argue the "weekend warrior" who may do it once, twice, or the third tiers who come in and fight monster opponents for chicken feed have more in the ball sack than the life long fighter does.
+1

Buster had the chance to have his story stand side by side with Braddocks....but I thought he did not bring the same conviction to the Holyfield fight that he did to the Tyson affair. Nothing to say bad against the man, other than his story had the potential of matching Braddock's, and even did so in the first reel, but fell short in the finale. Still overall a great run from Buster as well.
Douglas was essentially the first real memory I have of boxing, outside of my grandfather telling me how he fought Billy Conn in an exhibition during WW2 cus he was doing morale missions. Buster reminds me of both Braddock and Baer--- Buster had the Cinderella moment, but his attitude and overall work ethic was more aliken to Baer's. I still remember when we interviewed him on the radio and he said it pretty clearly, "I was a fighter, not an athlete," and I think that speaks volumes as to Buster's overall worth. He could of been an ATG, same as Baer could of been an ATG, but chose not to put the work in every time.
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Don't like him much but you cannot deny Ricky Burns has got guts
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For my money, George Chuvalo trumps 'em all.
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Bodyshot3 wrote:Agree with Ketchel's choice.....Wayne McCullough took a lot of pain and never once blinked or bitched. Think he was the one guy Hamed actually managed to show some manners to when Wayne just kept on coming at him.

Going way back, remember watching a seriously tough little Texan guy called Troy Dorsey, not much skill at all, but a monster pair of cojones and massive fitness levels that made him succesful and briefly a cult fighter. ITV showed some of his fights when I was kid and Dorsey was a proper little warrior.

Andries deserves a mention as well; virtually every time he got in the ring he got cracked but his will to win and never-say-die attitiude made him one of my favourite fighters.
Hearns bounced him off the canvas numerous times and he just kept on getting back up. Plus it took some guts for him to turn up at Kronk unannounced after Hearns beat him and ask Steward to train him :TU:
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that wasn't guts, that was brains :TU:
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Carl "The Cat" Thompson.
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Barney Ross against Henry Armstrong
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How about Greb. Didnt he fight many fights wit a bad eye
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Gypsy Joe Harris started out blind in one eye, some guts shown there :bow:
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Audley Harrison.

Despite being clearly terrified of violence in all its forms, he kept on getting in the ring. That shows great courage.
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