Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

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whiskey
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Re: Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

Post by whiskey »

willardx wrote:maybe it hints at a lack of GG confidence, as its a bit of an insurance policy if it goes tits up against Froch. If he was confident of winning you'd think he'd remain independent?
He could have signed AFTER the Froch fight if he was as confident of victory as he has constantly made out. If he was so absolutely convinced he would have won then no way would have signed right this very moment. It says a lot about Groves mindset, that he is looking to secure something in the event of a crushing loss.


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Post by chrisbonnie »

i think some of you guys are either under estimating the power of the european boxing scene, or over estimating the the british one.

Boxing in Germany is massive, the sponsorship is huge, they fill out football stadiums regularly, and mainly because the boxing is on terrestrial tv. So think of UTV in the late 80's early 90's. Only with one of the worlds biggest economies watching it.

Then there's the obvious reasons with Saurland having Kessler, Abraham, Stieglitz.

If you actually sit back and look at it. He'd be stupid NOT to sign with them.

I for one hope he smashed Froch next week now. Bursts Eddie Hearns smug bubble and runs off with the titles over to Germany or Denmark. Leaving James Degale to cry like a little girl again :box:
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Happy for Groves Eddie is far to smug for me
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Post by big lennox »

G0mez wrote:
willardx wrote:maybe it hints at a lack of GG confidence, as its a bit of an insurance policy if it goes tits up against Froch. If he was confident of winning you'd think he'd remain independent?
He could have signed AFTER the Froch fight if he was as confident of victory as he has constantly made out. If he was so absolutely convinced he would have won then no way would have signed right this very moment. It says a lot about Groves mindset, that he is looking to secure something in the event of a crushing loss.


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I disagree. I think Groves is anticipating a win over Froch and then being able to go straight into money spinning fights with Kessler and Abraham etc. Wise move.
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Re: Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

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Very good move!
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Kalle Sauerland hates Froch
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Post by Broomhall »

Seems a positive move by Groves.The Germans have been good at moving their boxers into title shots and defences. Hope he has read the contract though as Helenius didnt seem to happy with how things turned out. I wonder if they will have Groves fighting here or in Germany?

Not sure about the wisdom of negotiating something before the biggest fight of your life, maybe focussing on Froch would be better?
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Post by zero »

palooka wrote:
zero wrote:The more I think about it this is a massive own goal by George he could have been the next PPV star in Britain. Will any of his fans go over to Germany to watch him fight!! As for fighting Sturm really??
I'd have thought his promoters would be able to organise a fight or 2 in Britain and it may be that US promoters and TV stations would prefer to work with the Sauerlands?
Will Warren entertain him or Matchroom? Boxing is booming in Germany although you would think it was a opera you were attending. George IMO could have made a fortune in Britain IF he beats Froch he could had the rubber match and then DeGale again ££££.
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Post by gobbles »

chrisbonnie wrote:i think some of you guys are either under estimating the power of the european boxing scene, or over estimating the the british one.

Boxing in Germany is massive, the sponsorship is huge, they fill out football stadiums regularly, and mainly because the boxing is on terrestrial tv. So think of UTV in the late 80's early 90's. Only with one of the worlds biggest economies watching it.

Then there's the obvious reasons with Saurland having Kessler, Abraham, Stieglitz.

If you actually sit back and look at it. He'd be stupid NOT to sign with them.

I for one hope he smashed Froch next week now. Bursts Eddie Hearns smug bubble and runs off with the titles over to Germany or Denmark. Leaving James Degale to cry like a little girl again :box:
Nisse Sauerland has recently got a licence with the Board. They will be promoting Price in Liverpool in the autumn and Groves in the UK. If Groves's next three fights after beating Froch (presuming he does) were DeGale, Abraham, Kessler, he would not only potentially hold three belts, but he would be very rich.
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Post by littlepug »

Groves beats froch, takes Arthur WBO strap, defends against degale, then Kessler then ward for all the baubles and all on allegedly !
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By the way what's with this allegedly business when I type U know what ?
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littlepug wrote:By the way what's with this allegedly business when I type U know what ?
Protects us all from any potential legal ramifications
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Post by biglefthook »

he will beat froch then pay degale step aside money then beat Abraham them back to wembaly stadium for degale
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freddydoesdallas wrote:
littlepug wrote:By the way what's with this allegedly business when I type U know what ?
Protects us all from any potential legal ramifications
Last thing I need is getting sued by fwank !
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Re: Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

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biglefthook wrote:he will beat froch then pay degale step aside money then beat Abraham them back to wembaly stadium for degale
Either way the future looks rosy for groves if he beats froch lots of big fights for big money
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Re: Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

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freddydoesdallas wrote:Surely the DeGale fight would be a bigger money fight. Look how sky and matchroom have been able to sell this rematch because of a slightly early stoppage. They'd be able to convince the general public that their first fight was a wrong decision and getting them to part with their hard earned again. The pair of them would be happy to spend time in front of the cameras too.

All a side story though as Groves is getting sparked
You wouldn't need to go that far. The first fight was extremely close, Groves & Booth knew at the time there was going to be a rematch. There is a long gap between the first and second fight and still those two still can't stand each other. Also, DeGale being the Olympic Gold medallist aswell. Sky don't have to do that much with it.
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Re: Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

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biglefthook wrote:he will beat froch then pay degale step aside money then beat Abraham them back to wembaly stadium for degale
Pay de gale step aside money why would he do that, I'd have thought he's not contractually obliged to fight de gale?
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Re: Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

Post by phil5555 »

So dose that mean Groves fights will be on allegedly after his next fight. :TU:
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Re: Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

Post by rapid2 »

Bad move for me. It will only make it harder for me to watch his fights.
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