BTW SEASON WEEK 23 MATCHUPS

[BoxBuzz]

Then this can only mean that Johnny G is ducking Fenech.

Say it aint so.

[The Irish Assassin]

Then this can only mean that Johnny G is ducking Fenech.

Say it aint so.

Jhonny G called out Barry long before Fenech even mentioned his name... like always, the one ducking here is you.

[DaveyMac]

Okay, here is my reasoning:

3 Barry Jimmy 1720.7
Barry does not deserve a title shot. Since dropping a World Title in Week 21, he had beaten CPU wimps Arnold Taylor & Moises Castro. And that aint worth a title shot any season.


4 Dixon George 1518.4
George Dixon has already been a World Champion.

5 Escobar Sixto 1500.2
Two time Champion of the World.

8 Brown Panama Al 1483.2
Two time World Champion.

9 Rigondeaux Guillermo 1467.8
Been a World Champion.

10 Fenech Jeff 1462.8
He's beat Agustin Senin for the past two weeks. Not even being considered.

11 McGovern Terry 1461.0
He's hard a terribly hard run as of late. He's taking a rest from World Title action.

14 Zarate Carlos 1421.3
Has already signed for a fight this week.

Give Canizales the title shot

[gilgamesh]

Okay, here is my reasoning:

3 Barry Jimmy 1720.7
Barry does not deserve a title shot. Since dropping a World Title in Week 21, he had beaten CPU wimps Arnold Taylor & Moises Castro. And that aint worth a title shot any season.


4 Dixon George 1518.4
George Dixon has already been a World Champion.

5 Escobar Sixto 1500.2
Two time Champion of the World.

8 Brown Panama Al 1483.2
Two time World Champion.

9 Rigondeaux Guillermo 1467.8
Been a World Champion.

10 Fenech Jeff 1462.8
He's beat Agustin Senin for the past two weeks. Not even being considered.

11 McGovern Terry 1461.0
He's hard a terribly hard run as of late. He's taking a rest from World Title action.

14 Zarate Carlos 1421.3
Has already signed for a fight this week.

Give Canizales the title shot

Canizales isn't ranked high enough to get the shot, even if he were. He wouldn't deserve the shot over Jeff Chandler. The Man who BEAT Canizales, and fought to a draw with Caballero.

Chandler and Caballero still have a score to settle at some point anyway. I hope he still has that belt next week because if he does one of my boys is coming for it.

[DaveyMac]

Okay, here is my reasoning:

3 Barry Jimmy 1720.7
Barry does not deserve a title shot. Since dropping a World Title in Week 21, he had beaten CPU wimps Arnold Taylor & Moises Castro. And that aint worth a title shot any season.


4 Dixon George 1518.4
George Dixon has already been a World Champion.

5 Escobar Sixto 1500.2
Two time Champion of the World.

8 Brown Panama Al 1483.2
Two time World Champion.

9 Rigondeaux Guillermo 1467.8
Been a World Champion.

10 Fenech Jeff 1462.8
He's beat Agustin Senin for the past two weeks. Not even being considered.

11 McGovern Terry 1461.0
He's hard a terribly hard run as of late. He's taking a rest from World Title action.

14 Zarate Carlos 1421.3
Has already signed for a fight this week.

Give Canizales the title shot

Canizales isn't ranked high enough to get the shot, even if he were. He wouldn't deserve the shot over Jeff Chandler. The Man who BEAT Canizales, and fought to a draw with Caballero.

Chandler and Caballero still have a score to settle at some point anyway. I hope he still has that belt next week because if he does one of my boys is coming for it.

Canizales BEAT Caballero, and he started 12 weeks late!

[Crease]

Canizales BEAT Caballero, and he started 12 weeks late!

Fair point. But how many titles has Orlando won? Now, compare that to Jeff Chandler and Cannonball.

[gilgamesh]

The scorecards don't mean sh*t when you have a KO on your mind. Morales has a tendency to turn up the heat in the second half of close fights. Luckily for you The Kid didn't have to find that out. He will next time though.

The fight wasn't close. Cool story though

It won't be close next time either. Morales is going to destroy Williams!!!!

[DaveyMac]

Canizales BEAT Caballero, and he started 12 weeks late!

Fair point. But how many titles has Orlando won? Now, compare that to Jeff Chandler and Cannonball.

Well the only title he got to fight for was the SD loss to Chandler, which one judge thought he won.
He got bogus draws against #3 Barry and #6 Paquiao, and he beat Cabalerro soundly.
He lost that 3 round fight by MD, but really, 3 rds, not sure that means much.

[BoxBuzz]

Creases makes a good case that no one is worthy of the WBO cept his boy. I say he should not even have to defend it.

He should remain champion Emeritus!

[gilgamesh]

Creases makes a good case that no one is worthy of the WBO cept his boy. I say he should not even have to defend it.

He should remain champion Emeritus!

You realize next week Jimmy Barry would be the mandatory #1 contender for his belt right? Provided he's still got it next week that is.

[BoxBuzz]

Okay, here is my reasoning:

3 Barry Jimmy 1720.7
Barry does not deserve a title shot. Since dropping a World Title in Week 21, he had beaten CPU wimps Arnold Taylor & Moises Castro. And that aint worth a title shot any season.


4 Dixon George 1518.4
George Dixon has already been a World Champion.

5 Escobar Sixto 1500.2
Two time Champion of the World.

8 Brown Panama Al 1483.2
Two time World Champion.

9 Rigondeaux Guillermo 1467.8
Been a World Champion.

10 Fenech Jeff 1462.8
He's beat Agustin Senin for the past two weeks. Not even being considered.

11 McGovern Terry 1461.0
He's hard a terribly hard run as of late. He's taking a rest from World Title action.

14 Zarate Carlos 1421.3
Has already signed for a fight this week.

Give Canizales the title shot

Canizales isn't ranked high enough to get the shot, even if he were. He wouldn't deserve the shot over Jeff Chandler. The Man who BEAT Canizales, and fought to a draw with Caballero.

Chandler and Caballero still have a score to settle at some point anyway. I hope he still has that belt next week because if he does one of my boys is coming for it.

So Barry is the Jofre mandatory, but not worthy of GobbleArrow? You are ducking....yep, no doubt....it's a quacker alright.

[BoxBuzz]

Creases makes a good case that no one is worthy of the WBO cept his boy. I say he should not even have to defend it.

He should remain champion Emeritus!

You realize next week Jimmy Barry would be the mandatory #1 contender for his belt right? Provided he's still got it next week that is.

Yep, Crease want's the next guy to face Barry....he know's he's goin' down this week and it's his way to avoid the Jimmer.

[gilgamesh]

Creases makes a good case that no one is worthy of the WBO cept his boy. I say he should not even have to defend it.

He should remain champion Emeritus!

You realize next week Jimmy Barry would be the mandatory #1 contender for his belt right? Provided he's still got it next week that is.

Yep, Crease want's the next guy to face Barry....he know's he's goin' down this week and it's his way to avoid the Jimmer.

A loss is a loss whether it's to Jimmy Barry or anyone else. So I'd say the logic is flawed. Why would he duck Jimmy Barry because he's afraid he'd lose just to fight someone else that he'd lose to?

At least with Jimmy Barry he'd probably still at least manage to hold him to a Split or Majority decision. A lot of the bums that Barry has fought have managed that.

[NazNaci1]

Actually Ortiz holds the IBO title so Gomez won't pursue that as he is ranked too high. Instead he calls out McGovern, Al Brown or Erik Morales.......failing that, match him up with Chavez again.

Seeing as these 3 bailed out, what about Escobar or Herman?

Will either of these step up and fight Gomez??

[gilgamesh]

Actually Ortiz holds the IBO title so Gomez won't pursue that as he is ranked too high. Instead he calls out McGovern, Al Brown or Erik Morales.......failing that, match him up with Chavez again.

Seeing as these 3 bailed out, what about Escobar or Herman?

Will either of these step up and fight Gomez??

I didn't even notice you had challenged Morales. I agreed to facing Kid Williams in a rematch pretty early in this Matchups thread, but I definitely look forward to facing off with Gomez at some point. Perhaps we'll meet in the Million Dollar Tournament where the cream naturally rises to the top.

If I managed a guy who had as many cuts stoppages as Gomez has, I don't think I'd be too eager to face "El Oculista"

[NazNaci1]

Well Gomez has beaten by KO, no less, the best fighter in SIM (Jofre) and dropped 2 razor thin decisions to him aswell (1 pt each time). Should have got a W over Chavez which was disgracefully given as a draw, so all I will add is.......

He fears NO -ONE!

[gilgamesh]

Well Gomez has beaten by KO, no less, the best fighter in SIM (Jofre) and dropped 2 razor thin decisions to him aswell (1 pt each time). Should have got a W over Chavez which was disgracefully given as a draw, so all I will add is.......

He fears NO -ONE!

I'll grant you that. You most definitely deserved that decision over Chavez. That's a win for your man in my book.

[DMA1987]

Well Gomez has beaten by KO, no less, the best fighter in SIM (Jofre) and dropped 2 razor thin decisions to him aswell (1 pt each time). Should have got a W over Chavez which was disgracefully given as a draw, so all I will add is.......

He fears NO -ONE!

Jofre isn't the best fighter in the SIM, Panama Al is.

And against him, Gomez didn't stack up.

[Crease]

13 remaining:

UNMATCHED FIGHTERS
Armageto - Joe Lynch
BigJuicyHog - Ruben Olivares
BoxBully - Eder Jofre, Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
BoxBuzz - Jimmy Barry, Jeff Fenech
DaveyMac - Johnny Coulon, Orlando Canizales
Fist of legend - George Dixon
NazNaci1 - Wilfredo Gomez
P4p1 - Manuel Ortiz, Jimmy Carruthers
Techno89 - Sixto Escobar

[NazNaci1]

Well Gomez has beaten by KO, no less, the best fighter in SIM (Jofre) and dropped 2 razor thin decisions to him aswell (1 pt each time). Should have got a W over Chavez which was disgracefully given as a draw, so all I will add is.......

He fears NO -ONE!

Jofre isn't the best fighter in the SIM, Panama Al is.

And against him, Gomez didn't stack up.

Well depends by what you mean by 'stack up'. A cut loss after 3 rounds in an even fight is not an indicator. Seeing as both Panama Al & you are confident, let's sign it up and see what happens?

We need fighters with conjones, Ese....

[DMA1987]

Well Gomez has beaten by KO, no less, the best fighter in SIM (Jofre) and dropped 2 razor thin decisions to him aswell (1 pt each time). Should have got a W over Chavez which was disgracefully given as a draw, so all I will add is.......

He fears NO -ONE!

Jofre isn't the best fighter in the SIM, Panama Al is.

And against him, Gomez didn't stack up.

Well depends by what you mean by 'stack up'. A cut loss after 3 rounds in an even fight is not an indicator. Seeing as both Panama Al & you are confident, let's sign it up and see what happens?

We need fighters with conjones, Ese....

After I pick up Herman's IBF belt this week, Gringo.

[DaveyMac]

if we are going to enter the mDT do we still need to pick opponents this week?

[gilgamesh]

if we are going to enter the mDT do we still need to pick opponents this week?

Yes

[DaveyMac]

Johnny Coulon will face Freddie Gilroy

Orlando Canizales will face Johnny Binge

[Crease]

UNMATCHED FIGHTERS
Armageto - Joe Lynch
BigJuicyHog - Ruben Olivares
BoxBully - Eder Jofre, Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
BoxBuzz - Jimmy Barry, Jeff Fenech
Fist of legend - George Dixon
P4p1 - Manuel Ortiz, Jimmy Carruthers
Techno89 - Sixto Escobar

Unanswered challenges:

Jhonny Gonzalez calls out Jimmy Barry.

Olivares challenges Manuel Ortiz.

what about Escobar or Herman? Will either of these step up and fight Gomez??

George Dixon is still the mando challenger, he will fight Jofre unless his Manager pulls him out.

As for Manuel Ortiz - Joe Lynch, Ruben Olivares, Jimmy Carruthers & Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym are all available for your IBO belt... Please pick one.