Hall v Butler Undercard

Crazyboy
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When all's said and done Hall lost to Haskins and he lost to McDonnell, since then he has been on a total upward curve and deserves everything he gets.

The politics of it don't concern Stuey, he knows he was lucky to get a shot at the world title but he took it with open arms like anyone of us would do.

I know its been messy and a lot of people don't like or can't understand how this has come about (Stuey being world champion) but the fact is..........he is and good luck to him!


He has a very hard fight coming up against Butler and believe me he knows that too so may the best man win on the 7th of June and I hope its Stuey.

Back on topic, I'm also looking forward to the undercard and I think the whole event will be a good one. As I said before, I'm going to the event so if anyone wants a beer let me know :TU:
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earsjohn wrote:
nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
Huh? Are you suggesting that the correct way to score a fight is by watching each round twice, once for each fighter, counting punches landed? I do hope someone is pulling up judges in actual fights who don't have access to time machines and the like to be able to score correctly.
No just the boy expe go over the fights before gobbing off on boxrec.
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Best card up north for a whole looking forward to this. Good 2 headline fights and good prospects on the undercard. Looking forward to seeing how Lewis Scott develops won every fight by ko looks very good prospect anyone got any thoughts on Lewis?
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Crazyboy wrote:When all's said and done Hall lost to Haskins and he lost to McDonnell, since then he has been on a total upward curve and deserves everything he gets.

The politics of it don't concern Stuey, he knows he was lucky to get a shot at the world title but he took it with open arms like anyone of us would do.

I know its been messy and a lot of people don't like or can't understand how this has come about (Stuey being world champion) but the fact is..........he is and good luck to him!


He has a very hard fight coming up against Butler and believe me he knows that too so may the best man win on the 7th of June and I hope its Stuey.

Back on topic, I'm also looking forward to the undercard and I think the whole event will be a good one. As I said before, I'm going to the event so if anyone wants a beer let me know :TU:

Still think butler is overrated, he has only fought fighters with just a few rounds under their belt or fighters who are on their way down and up close butler is a lot smaller than Stu.
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nick885 wrote:
Crazyboy wrote:When all's said and done Hall lost to Haskins and he lost to McDonnell, since then he has been on a total upward curve and deserves everything he gets.

The politics of it don't concern Stuey, he knows he was lucky to get a shot at the world title but he took it with open arms like anyone of us would do.

I know its been messy and a lot of people don't like or can't understand how this has come about (Stuey being world champion) but the fact is..........he is and good luck to him!


He has a very hard fight coming up against Butler and believe me he knows that too so may the best man win on the 7th of June and I hope its Stuey.

Back on topic, I'm also looking forward to the undercard and I think the whole event will be a good one. As I said before, I'm going to the event so if anyone wants a beer let me know :TU:

Still think butler is overrated, he has only fought fighters with just a few rounds under their belt or fighters who are on their way down and up close butler is a lot smaller than Stu.
Yep agree with that, can't wait for it mate, see you there! :TU:
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jameswilson wrote:
nick885 wrote:I take it that james Wilson has fought been in a corner and trained fighters and been a referee at a fight and was there on the night as I was.
Yeah all those things...... :confused:

Amazing none of us have heard of you despite you claiming to be all of those things tho. All I'll say is thank god you've never been a judge for a fight.

:shame: :zzz:
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Crazyboy wrote:
nick885 wrote:
Crazyboy wrote:When all's said and done Hall lost to Haskins and he lost to McDonnell, since then he has been on a total upward curve and deserves everything he gets.

The politics of it don't concern Stuey, he knows he was lucky to get a shot at the world title but he took it with open arms like anyone of us would do.

I know its been messy and a lot of people don't like or can't understand how this has come about (Stuey being world champion) but the fact is..........he is and good luck to him!


He has a very hard fight coming up against Butler and believe me he knows that too so may the best man win on the 7th of June and I hope its Stuey.

Back on topic, I'm also looking forward to the undercard and I think the whole event will be a good one. As I said before, I'm going to the event so if anyone wants a beer let me know :TU:

Still think butler is overrated, he has only fought fighters with just a few rounds under their belt or fighters who are on their way down and up close butler is a lot smaller than Stu.
Yep agree with that, can't wait for it mate, see you there! :TU:
Wouldn't miss it :TU:
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fantaheed wrote:Best card up north for a whole looking forward to this. Good 2 headline fights and good prospects on the undercard. Looking forward to seeing how Lewis Scott develops won every fight by ko looks very good prospect anyone got any thoughts on Lewis?
He takes a lot of shots and will get found out soon enough. A fighter called Basi Razaq is a far better prospect than Lewis Scott IMO
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nick885 wrote:
expe wrote:
nick885 wrote:expe you havant commented on malinga saying hall punches harder than Santa Cruz.
You're yet to provide the evidence of him saying that and since we've proved that you've been lying on at least three occasions, I'm backing you to continue the streak.
THE quote from malinga was in the national news papers.
Funny how no one else remembers this, post a link if it's true, until then, you're talking shite again.
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nick885 wrote:
earsjohn wrote:
nick885 wrote:expe take a look at the fights you pass comment on, watch one fighter at a time mark down his punches that land on the target area and then do the same for the other fighter, do this round by round and you see who won the fight its time consuming but gives you a better chance to really see who won the fight.
And don't forget back of the head and body as well as anywhere on the arms doesn't score.
Huh? Are you suggesting that the correct way to score a fight is by watching each round twice, once for each fighter, counting punches landed? I do hope someone is pulling up judges in actual fights who don't have access to time machines and the like to be able to score correctly.
No just the boy expe go over the fights before gobbing off on boxrec.
Gobbing off? You're clearly unable to read properly, I haven't made any comment on the Perales fight, I simply quoted other people who felt that Perales had done enough to win, like I said, I was watching the Burns-Gonzalez card that night and I didn't see the Hall fight, but everyone on the RBR thread, I posted a link, something you seem to be unable to do, thought Perales was unlucky not to get the decision, I wasn't one of them you thick twat.
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stujones wrote:
expe wrote:
stujones wrote:Personally thought Perales beat Hall.

I'm glad Haskins has this chance, but I'm dissapointed that this seems to becoming the British IBF Flyweight title of the World.

McDonnell, Hall, Hall vs Ward, Hall vs Butler and Hull/Butler vs possible Haskins. When are they going to fight any international opposition.
Randy Caballero will be fighting the winner of next Saturday's fight, after that it's anyone's guess, no guarantee that Butler stays at bantamweight, but after Caballero it will probably be a voluntary, then Haskins, or Haskins straight away if they can't find a domestic opponent, they'll run out soon.
I predict if Butler wins it will be Caballero, if Hall wins - Caballero will take a step aside.

Sorry, I did mean Bantam title.

Doubt Caballero will take step aside. The IBF don't mess about only have to ask the Jamie McDonnell about that.

Saw his last fight where he became mandatory looks half decent but then again no idea how good Paul Butler can be. Will found out in a couple of weeks.
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To the boy expe your gobbing of is your pathetic inability to express yourself without using expletives you are just a rude child.

You never know who you are talking to little boy.
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I like Hall and I think he beats Butler, I did however score the perales fight a couple of rounds against him. Scoring isn't all about punch stats otherwise judges would be irrelevant and compubox would decide the winner by the way
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nick885 wrote:To the boy expe your gobbing of is your pathetic inability to express yourself without using expletives you are just a rude child.

You never know who you are talking to little boy.
Many, many people, who are far more educated than we are swear regularly, not because of an inability to express themselves, Stephen Fry sums it up far better than I could

'Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a fornicating lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous... or they say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life.'

Is he unable to express himself without swearing?

I suspect I'm talking to a moronic Darlingtonian, who has a nasty habit of making things up, stretching the truth to it's limits, in an attempt to prove various spurious claims and seems to struggle with the command of basic written English.
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expe wrote:
nick885 wrote:To the boy expe your gobbing of is your pathetic inability to express yourself without using expletives you are just a rude child.

You never know who you are talking to little boy.
Many, many people, who are far more educated than we are swear regularly, not because of an inability to express themselves, Stephen Fry sums it up far better than I could

'Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a effing lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous... or they say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life.'

Is he unable to express himself without swearing?

I suspect I'm talking to a moronic Darlingtonian, who has a nasty habit of making things up, stretching the truth to it's limits, in an attempt to prove various spurious claims and seems to struggle with the command of basic written English.
THERE YOU ARE WRONG BOY, you are talking to someone from the smoke who came out 13 years ago after serving his 20+ and who has seen the worst you can see in life. I for one refrain from swearing in front of anyone other than my own kind, there are still some of us that stick to the old rules.
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nick885 wrote:
expe wrote:
nick885 wrote:To the boy expe your gobbing of is your pathetic inability to express yourself without using expletives you are just a rude child.

You never know who you are talking to little boy.
Many, many people, who are far more educated than we are swear regularly, not because of an inability to express themselves, Stephen Fry sums it up far better than I could

'Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a effing lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous... or they say 'it's not necessary'. As if that should stop one doing it! It's not necessary to have coloured socks, it's not necessary for this cushion to be here, but is anyone going to write in and say 'I was shocked to see that cushion there, it really wasn't necessary'? No, things not being necessary is what makes life interesting -the little extras in life.'

Is he unable to express himself without swearing?

I suspect I'm talking to a moronic Darlingtonian, who has a nasty habit of making things up, stretching the truth to it's limits, in an attempt to prove various spurious claims and seems to struggle with the command of basic written English.
THERE YOU ARE WRONG BOY, you are talking to someone from the smoke who came out 13 years ago after serving his 20+ and who has seen the worst you can see in life. I for one refrain from swearing in front of anyone other than my own kind, there are still some of us that stick to the old rules.
Worst you can see in life? Was it hard getting into North Korea? Or was getting out the hard part?

Your own kind? I've met and seen plenty of people who are a bit backward, but I would never class them as anything but human, you must belong to some form of sub species.
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expe you obviously have never seen or been in any real trouble in your short life and are obviously to young to know what you are talking about. Born in the 60s I was to young for that war and my sub species as you called them had a code to live by, don't steal from your own, don't hurt women children or old people you only hurt your own kind and never grass. We also knew not to use profanities in front of women and children. Some sub species eh.
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Hagler2002 wrote:
fantaheed wrote:Best card up north for a whole looking forward to this. Good 2 headline fights and good prospects on the undercard. Looking forward to seeing how Lewis Scott develops won every fight by ko looks very good prospect anyone got any thoughts on Lewis?
He takes a lot of shots and will get found out soon enough. A fighter called Basi Razaq is a far better prospect than Lewis Scott IMO
Never seen basi razaq yet. The thing with lewis he has never been a puncher so it's surprising that he has won all fights by ko, maybe he is developing his man strength now. I know what you mean about getting caught I think he is looking for ko and this happens but that will tighten up with experience. He has good range and skills as well as a good chin and if he keeps improving he could get in title mix in next 18 months no rush for him, I'd like to see him at light middle if possible.
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fantaheed wrote:Best card up north for a whole looking forward to this. Good 2 headline fights and good prospects on the undercard. Looking forward to seeing how Lewis Scott develops won every fight by ko looks very good prospect anyone got any thoughts on Lewis?
I agree Looking forward to seeing Lewis Scott one thing we know he can hit lol also Josh Leather fights Tommy Carus which is a step up for josh.I think Brad Saunders is doing 10 rounds.

Open wokout saturday at 11am at the Metro Centre The Qube Paul Butler Stew Hall there also undercard fighters
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bodyactive wrote:
fantaheed wrote:Best card up north for a whole looking forward to this. Good 2 headline fights and good prospects on the undercard. Looking forward to seeing how Lewis Scott develops won every fight by ko looks very good prospect anyone got any thoughts on Lewis?
I agree Looking forward to seeing Lewis Scott one thing we know he can hit lol also Josh Leather fights Tommy Carus which is a step up for josh.I think Brad Saunders is doing 10 rounds.

Open wokout saturday at 11am at the Metro Centre The Qube Paul Butler Stew Hall there also undercard fighters
Cheers for the heads up I think I will go to metro centre and check it out
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I am training Lewis, Lew has a long way to go in his development as a pro boxer,we are working on a bit more movement and not getting drawn in but he is still a baby in the pro game. He is boxing at light middle and we always said that when he knuckled down and got to his true fighting weight he would chin folk.
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looked sharp on the pads at the open workout like I said hes one in looking forward to seeing also Josh Leather in a nit of a test
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stujones wrote:Personally thought Perales beat Hall.

I'm glad Haskins has this chance, but I'm dissapointed that this seems to becoming the British IBF Flyweight title of the World.

McDonnell, Hall, Hall vs Ward, Hall vs Butler and Hull/Butler vs possible Haskins. When are they going to fight any international opposition.

117 - 111 117 - 111 two foreign judges and 115 - 113 British judge all in favour of hall. British judge was from London so probably impartial as well.
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