The Official Froch v Groves bill RBR thread

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expe wrote: It's what I want to happen, that, or a one punch knockout, at any point in the fight, don't even care if it's DeGale, or how it ends, just as long as it ends Carl Froch's career.
Bika or GGG would be best opponents if you want to see Froch bashed about a bit.
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Froch's goofy grin was really making me laugh then, he really enjoyed Eddie's speech. :lol:
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Fair play Carl. If he was never ever interviewed, he'd probably be my all time favourite fighter haha. Groves seemed less switched on this time, a bit more nervous, a he was dodging those right hands all day long last fight
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Is there anything in the way of a rematch against Ward?
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GGG is a middleweight who has never been hit by a super middle.

For all the hype about his finishing he does get caught alot.
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Great finish, credit to Carl.
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danconnollyeire wrote:Fair play Carl. If he was never ever interviewed, he'd probably be my all time favourite fighter haha. Groves seemed less switched on this time, a bit more nervous, a he was dodging those right hands all day long last fight
He looked like he was starting to take control of the fight till Froch landed that shot. What a shot by the way, didn't think that would ever happen.
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Credit to both in the interview. Nice for Froch to say fight was in the balance.

I like Froch, a true warrior. Yes, I wanted Groves to win today - but I always like seeing Carl doing well. The reason why I agreed with Expe's post about it being depressing.... was not because I have a hatred for Froch is because we will now get months after months on ringside about how good Carl was. He was better, but it wasn't exactly a dominant win - as Carl (fair play) acknowledged.

Ward still smashes him, 48 year old Hopkins still probably beats him... and yes, I do actually favour Degale.
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Grilling Machine wrote:Is there anything in the way of a rematch against Ward?
Can't see the point really. Not much money in it (for him anyway). Ward would bore us all to a 12 round UD. Wouldn't be in vegas like froch wants. I think Ward Groves would be more interesting
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crusader wrote:
gazza8 wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:Plenty of humble pie to be eaten and egg facials on here over the next few days
Disagree with this, for the most part everyone said Groves was quicker and would box Froch about, which for the most part he did, apart from the peach of a shot that he landed
Yep.

I don't know what it is with Froch fans and thinking that so many people disrespect him as a fighter or don't give him his due. He was probably the forum favorite, he was the betting favorite, and there were also a fair number of people who were critical of Groves. Based on the first fight, there was nothing wrong with picking Groves.
I actually changed my prediction during the ring walk! All along I thought Carl would stop him sometime after the 9th but switched to Groves on points at the last minute.

I'm a fan of both fighters.
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SNG wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:Fair play Carl. If he was never ever interviewed, he'd probably be my all time favourite fighter haha. Groves seemed less switched on this time, a bit more nervous, a he was dodging those right hands all day long last fight
He looked like he was starting to take control of the fight till Froch landed that shot. What a shot by the way, didn't think that would ever happen.
True. In the first fight though, for 7 rounds at least, he made Froch look like a mug. Although he will always be a much better boxer technically, they didn't seem the world apart like that did the first fight. Could be due to froch improving
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danconnollyeire wrote:he was dodging those right hands all day long last fight
They were coming in with much more frequency then. This time, Froch was hardly throwing big rights from range, so I think Groves was a victim of letting himself relax into the more measured tempo.* He sharpened up when the flurries came in, but the finisher was Bernardesque.
danconnollyeire wrote:Ward would bore us all to a 12 round UD.
Not to avenge his only outstanding loss?

*Clearly with his mind on the full 12 rounds. I had him ahead by two.
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danconnollyeire wrote:
SNG wrote:
danconnollyeire wrote:Fair play Carl. If he was never ever interviewed, he'd probably be my all time favourite fighter haha. Groves seemed less switched on this time, a bit more nervous, a he was dodging those right hands all day long last fight
He looked like he was starting to take control of the fight till Froch landed that shot. What a shot by the way, didn't think that would ever happen.
True. In the first fight though, for 7 rounds at least, he made Froch look like a mug. Although he will always be a much better boxer technically, they didn't seem the world apart like that did the first fight. Could be due to froch improving

I imagine a lot had to do with Froch's head still spinning for about four or five rounds.
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Grilling Machine wrote:Not to avenge his only outstanding loss?
danconnollyeire wrote:he was dodging those right hands all day long last fight
They were coming in with much more frequency. This time, Froch was hardly throwing big rights, so I think Groves was a victim of letting himself relax into the more measured tempo. He sharpened up when the flurries came in, but the finisher was Bernardesque.
Yeah maybe. Ward is a different level though. He only has 1 or 2 fights left (3 at a push). He's done everything and done it the hard way. There's money in a degail fight as James' massive mouth would build it over here along with froch's status and there's money in Chavez. Maybe froch is just thinking about what can secure his family financially now
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can't ask for more, froch destroyed the guy, and who cares what round it came in?

nice run of world class wins by froch: bute, a breather v mack, Kessler II, groves & groves again. 2 wars and 2 brutal stoppage wins; well done, cobra.

are some of you really going with the old, "he was doing well until he got knocked out" cliché for groves?

this win gives froch leverage to get big name opponents in the UK - which increases his chances of winning - though a fight with olympic gold medallist and IBF elim winner degale could also be made big.

ward "smashes" him? since when was ward a "smasher"?
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Do you think Sky will ever admit that it was a bit of a dull contest.
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stujones wrote:Do you think Sky will ever admit that it was a bit of a dull contest.
:D
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I thought Froch was winning though not as far ahead as Watt had him and he wasn't dominating. Groves just wasn't doing anything until round 7. Froch boxed very well and when Groves opened up he executed him. Brilliant performance by a truly great champion.

Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.
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Ian1973 wrote:Fair play to Froch for his honesty, even he didn't have himself ahead like Watt and co did.
Groves was just getting back into it. To do that you have to be behind to start with!

If the floor wasn't there he'd still be falling.
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stujones wrote:Do you think Sky will ever admit that it was a bit of a dull contest.

I didn't think it was dull, I found it fascinating. I guess so many people will expecting early fireworks and when that didn't happen it all seemed like a bit of an anti-climax.
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DMMA wrote:
Ian1973 wrote:Fair play to Froch for his honesty, even he didn't have himself ahead like Watt and co did.
Groves was just getting back into it. To do that you have to be behind to start with!

If the floor wasn't there he'd still be falling.

Groves was ahead on my card. I'll be interested to see how the judges had it.
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Autobarn wrote:can't ask for more, froch destroyed the guy, and who cares what round it came in?

nice run of world class wins by froch: bute, a breather v mack, Kessler II, groves & groves again. 2 wars and 2 brutal stoppage wins; well done, cobra.

are some of you really going with the old, "he was doing well until he got knocked out" cliché for groves?

this win gives froch leverage to get big name opponents in the UK - which increases his chances of winning - though a fight with olympic gold medallist and IBF elim winner degale could also be made big.

ward "smashes" him? since when was ward a "smasher"?
I think he smashed Dawson
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Trojans44 wrote:
Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.
As they say, "this". What's it people say about never appreciating something until it's gone?

How many British fighters have a record like Froch's?
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Autobarn wrote:are some of you really going with the old, "he was doing well until he got knocked out" cliché for groves?
He was.
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DMMA wrote:
Trojans44 wrote:
Those joyless souls among you who can't appreciate what Froch did tonight need to really ask yourself why you follow boxing.
As they say, "this". What's it people say about never appreciating something until it's gone?

How many British fighters have a record like Froch's?
x2. Modern British great. Has fought everyone, everywhere. True warrior.
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