Froch v Groves RBR

[Tanzio]

I still want to see the cards...
groves just crumpled from that, like a sack of potatoes

Simply picture perfect right hand.

[expe]

All right, where's are the froch boo birds . . . come out come out wherever you are. Froch is the man. Froch is what is best in boxing. Sitdown young man, the caveman has put you away.

I still fornicating hate him

[crusader]

All right, where's are the froch boo birds . . . come out come out wherever you are. Froch is the man. Froch is what is best in boxing. Sitdown young man, the caveman has put you away.

You're almost as annoying as the boo-hoo birds when it comes to Froch.

[G.McClellan]

Groves should take pride in the fact he was winning the fight. Got caught with an excellent shot. Nothing you can do about that.

[Tanzio]

Killed the big red right hand kid with a right hand. Gotta love it.

[crusader]

Jim Watt is also fuckked in the head to have the score he did.

I thought Groves was clearly winning and don't know how people were giving Froch up to 4 rounds. He was being outboxed for most of the fight and missed most of the punches in his wild flurries. That said, great finish.

[Tanzio]

All right, where's are the froch boo birds . . . come out come out wherever you are. Froch is the man. Froch is what is best in boxing. Sitdown young man, the caveman has put you away.

You're almost as annoying as the boo-hoo birds when it comes to Froch.

Sit the fvck down and shut the fvck up. Froch shut your man down, period. No more controversy. No more b.s. Yes Groves fought well and was a bit ahead probably but guess what? He didn't get up from what Carl got up from and kicked his ass last time.

[G.McClellan]

Froch has the power to do that to anyone in the division. He's answered his critics and erased memories of the first fight.

[crusader]

All right, where's are the froch boo birds . . . come out come out wherever you are. Froch is the man. Froch is what is best in boxing. Sitdown young man, the caveman has put you away.

You're almost as annoying as the boo-hoo birds when it comes to Froch.

Sit the fvck down and shut the fvck up. Froch shut your man down, period. No more controversy. No more b.s. Yes Groves fought well and was a bit ahead probably but guess what? He didn't get up from what Carl got up from and kicked his ass last time.

LOL---there's a glimmer of it.

Not a fan of Groves at all and yes Froch won clearly. That doesn't mean you're not annoying when you constantly make posts praising Froch, acting like he's the victim of some injustice, and accusing others of not giving him his due just because they thought the first fight was controversial.

[Kootenay47]

Quite a bit different fight than the first one . Carl looked a bit hesitant after Groves clocked him with a good left but recovered ok .

Groves really isn't that good ...and yet he gave Carl trouble in spots and would have more if he had of thrown the right hand after the jab . Instead he resorted to single and double left jabs far too much without throwing the right hand behind them when he had Carl backing up.

Carl looked his usual self and got a nice KO win . I think old man Hopkins beats him and of course Andre Ward.

[G.McClellan]

Froch is honest and slightly conceited. He needs to be given it's the english media.

[Butterbean]

I had froch up. He controlled it more or less imo. And what a ko... Game over groves

[gilgamesh]

I personally had it 4-3 Froch heading into the 8th round.

I thought the 3rd round was very close, and could've gone either way. I scored it for Froch. If you scored it for Groves, and had it 4-3 Groves I wouldn't argue with that one bit.

But I don't think it was really any closer than that.

I thought rounds 1,2 and 4 were clear Groves rounds.

And rounds 5,6 and 7 were clear Froch rounds.

[crusader]

I'll have to watch again, but while watching it live I had it:

Groves
Groves
Groves
Groves
Froch
Froch
Groves

I thought Groves won 3 of the first 4 clearly, with one arguably going to Froch (3rd or 4th, can't remember which). I saw these rounds as tactical affairs in which Groves' speed allowed him to be more accurate, land more cleanly, and land more often. Froch started throwing more power shots and charging forward in the 5th and 6th, and that's when Groves started spending more time on the ropes looking uncomfortable. Groves' body language and I think also his stamina started deteriorating at this point , and it seemed increasingly likely that the fight would end in a similar manner as their first one. While things still didn't look great for him, I thought Groves bounced back well in the 7th and landed a number of good punches, including one that sent Froch stumbling back, to win the round.

[crusader]

I rewatched it and got the same score, and I still have no idea how some people thought Froch controlled the early rounds or won more than 1 of the first 4 (and I think there's a stronger case for 4-0 than 3-1). The numbers below reflect what I saw.

I think some people must've been influenced by Watt, because I've seen numerous mentions of Froch controlling things with his jab and that is something that Watt continually stressed, yet if you ignore his claims there really isn't much of a basis for believing that and I don't see why so many would independently come to believe that. Maybe those who agree with him can tell me specific points in which we can see Froch controlling the fight with his jab.

Even 4-3 Froch is a bit generous to him in my view, though not wildly off the mark.

http://www.BS.com/compubox-gro ... tch--78487

[Bobbyptsd]

It's not that I thought he controlled anything with it, I just felt he threw it more and was more active on the whole. I didn't find there was all that much to split them in the first couple of rounds.

Keep in mind that I'm not saying I think Froch dominated or anything, I just think he was more active and imposed himself a bit more. If someone gave every single round to Groves before the KO I wouldn't object specifically, but watching it live I felt Froch just did a little more in the early going.

I'm saying early going now, but I don't even remember specifically which rounds I gave to Froch , mind. I just remember I had him up 4-3 at the stoppage and that a couple of those were early.