British Top 30 P4P June 2014

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (5.) Amir Khan
3. (2.) Martin Murray
4. (3.) Carl Frampton
5. (4.) George Groves
6. (6.) Tyson Fury
7. (7.) Ola Afolabi
8. (8.) Ricky Burns
9. (12.) James DeGale
10. (9.) Kell Brook

11. (10.) Dereck Chisora
12. (13.) Jamie McDonnell
13. (11.) Scott Quigg
14. (16.) Lee Selby
15. (14.) Tony Bellew
16. (15.) Lee Haskins
17. (17.) Matthew Macklin
18. (18.) Frankie Gavin
19. (21.) Nathan Cleverly
20. (19.) Anthony Crolla

21. (26.) Stephen Smith
22. (27.) Gavin Rees
23. (20.) Kid Galahad
24. (22.) Stuart Hall
25. (23.) Brian Rose
26. (24.) Billy Joe Saunders
27. (RE.) Kevin Mitchell
28. (NE.) Josh Warrington
29. (RE.) Derry Mathews
30. (25.) Enzo Maccarinelli

Out - (28.) Jon-Lewis Dickinson
Out - (29.) Paul Butler
Out - (30.) Curtis Woodhouse

[Horse]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[DMA1987]

Gavin Rees has retired.

[Horse]

Gavin Rees has retired.

I know.

He might still change his mind if he gets offered an IBF world title eliminator against Mitchell or something similar though.

[Londonirish]

Jamie McDonnell 2 times World Champion (regardless of who he had to beat) and he Drops a place

[expe]

Jamie McDonnell 2 times World Champion (regardless of who he had to beat) and he Drops a place

He isn't a 2 time world champion, Anselmo Moreno is the WBA champion, it's like saying Scott Quigg is a world champion, Sky and Eddie can talk all they want, they aren't world champions.

[Boxerbeetle]

Jamie McDonnell 2 times World Champion (regardless of who he had to beat) and he Drops a place

Whereas Cleverly blew out a tomato can & moves up 2 places. Weird.

[Horse]

Jamie McDonnell 2 times World Champion (regardless of who he had to beat) and he Drops a place

McDonnell climbed a place.

[brian13]

Mc Donnell and Quigg too low. Quigg has defended his title many times and deserves higher even more so, that Frampton is at number four. Martin Murray is too high at three.

[Old Jack J]

Paul Smith?

Callum Smith?

Not a criticism, just a general wonderingment on where you see these guys?

[Ian1973]

1 Froch
2 Khan
3 Frampton
4 Quigg
5 McDonnell
6 Groves
7 Brook
8 DeGale
9 Murray
10 Fury

[Earleylad]

Pretty close to what I'd have . Only one I'd change is Chisora I'd place him 5-10 places lower at the moment

[Horse]

Mc Donnell and Quigg too low. Quigg has defended his title many times and deserves higher even more so, that Frampton is at number four. Martin Murray is too high at three.

McDonnell and Quigg are paper champions. Frampton has beaten much better opposition than either of them.

If Murray loses against Bursak this month then he will fall.

[BAP1]

Jamie McDonnell 2 times World Champion (regardless of who he had to beat) and he Drops a place

He isn't a 2 time world champion, Anselmo Moreno is the WBA champion, it's like saying Scott Quigg is a world champion, Sky and Eddie can talk all they want, they aren't world champions.

[Horse]

Paul Smith?

Callum Smith?

Not a criticism, just a general wonderingment on where you see these guys?

I'd probably have them both ranked between 40-50 if I went that far down.

If either beat Fielding or Magee they'd most likely enter the rankings.

[Horse]

1 Froch
2 Khan
3 Frampton
4 Quigg
5 McDonnell
6 Groves
7 Brook
8 DeGale
9 Murray
10 Fury

Quigg and McDonnell don't belong in the top 10 in my opinion.

[Horse]

Pretty close to what I'd have . Only one I'd change is Chisora I'd place him 5-10 places lower at the moment

Johnson was a top 20/30 heavyweight when Chisora beat him widely and Scott was ranked about the same as well.

I'd say Chisora's recent wins are better than McDonnell's, Quigg's and Selby's. If you disagree then fair enough.

[garethhop]

I don't understand why murray is so high. He looked great against martinez but lost and has looked rotten since then.

He should be below all the other guys fighting world top 20s and winning.

Enjoy these threads though.

[Loftgroov]

Murray is far too high. Martinez aside, he's hardly fought many with a pulse.

[keirw]

I can't see how Murray is so high, I also think Chisora should be above Brook until he beats someone decent, nit-picking aside though it's as good a list as any out there.
p4p lists are speculative by nature so there is always room for debate

[misterpunch]

enzo should be out - there are plenty of guys P4P better than him

[Boxerbeetle]

Murray is far too high again. Otherwise not too much to argue about.

[Horse]

I don't understand why murray is so high. He looked great against martinez but lost and has looked rotten since then.

He should be below all the other guys fighting world top 20s and winning.

Enjoy these threads though.

Arguably deserving the decision against the division's No. 1 is better than beating some lower top 20 ranked guy.

[Horse]

Murray is far too high. Martinez aside, he's hardly fought many with a pulse.

Sturm.

[Horse]

I can't see how Murray is so high, I also think Chisora should be above Brook until he beats someone decent, nit-picking aside though it's as good a list as any out there.
p4p lists are speculative by nature so there is always room for debate