Man, this place seems dead.

yancey
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Man, this place seems dead.

Post by yancey »

Too bad those that stimulate conversation are prone to get sent packing. :(

Right?

Oh well, back to :zzz:
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by Tuan_Jim »

You're lamenting the loss of a man who was sabotaging the Boxrec records? Only a troll would take such a position.

I'd rather it be quiet round here than have the forum flooded with demented propaganda. Plus those 'stimulating conversations' you refer to were one user having conversations with himself, under multiple names. More 'simulating' that 'stimulating'.

Worry not, your friend Duce is already back posting. See if you can spot who he is.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by evrenb »

Hey i thought that too...Duce is back....Yancey why dont you contribute rather than complain that it is dead on the forum...? How about a joe frazier appreciation thread?
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by Tuan_Jim »

Exactly. If anything it was the insufferable one-note 'character' posters like Yancey and Duce that drove everyone away.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by evrenb »

A lot of the forums are quiet...once they cancelled duce it probably cancelled out ten accounts. Surprised yancey didnt disappear...
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by Tuan_Jim »

Evren, check out the brand new user 'Caractacus'.

He 'writes' with a 'lot' of the old 'Duce' oddities, such as the habitual misuse of 'symbols', 'apostrophes', and various other strange ~idiosyncrasies~.

He also regularly links to the same Google archives that Duce spent his spare minutes on, those rare moments he enjoyed between writing his fan fiction.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by yancey »

Tuan_Jim wrote:Exactly. If anything it was the insufferable one-note 'character' posters like Yancey and Duce that drove everyone away.
I'm not "insufferable" (actually, try to be quite pleasant) nor am I "one-note".

The fact that you are not remotely astute enough to understand this is not my fault.

btw, I thought Il Duce was quite the pleasant sort. :TU:

Meanwhile, back to :zzz:

:D
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by yancey »

evrenb wrote:Hey i thought that too...Duce is back....Yancey why dont you contribute rather than complain that it is dead on the forum...? How about a joe frazier appreciation thread?

Would you mind posting up a photo of Joe knocking "the Greatest" :roll: on his butt in the Big One?

It would make my day. :TU:

tata.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by Tuan_Jim »

You're not 'one-note'? Scan your post history, Yancey. It's hilarious how singular your interest in boxing is. Frazier, or Frazier through the prism of Ali/Foreman/Duce. A real medley of experience.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by yancey »

Tuan_Jim wrote:You're not 'one-note'? Scan your post history, Yancey. It's hilarious how singular your interest in boxing is. Frazier, or Frazier through the prism of Ali/Foreman/Duce. A real medley of experience.
I know more about the top three divisions from the '60s and '70s than you can hold, boy.
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Post by BoxBuzz »

Yep, the crazies among us are entertaining.

Hell, if he hadn't openly goofed with the database in such a way that his delusions of what "is" vs what "is imagined" were becoming "imposed on reality", He'd still be here, writing his fiction, entertaining the masses, and stirring it up on a daily basis.

Never had a problem with his imagination. Had a big problem with his attempted fraudulence.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by Caractacus »

Tuan_Jim wrote:You're lamenting the loss of a man who was sabotaging the Boxrec records? Only a troll would take such a position.

I'd rather it be quiet round here than have the forum flooded with demented propaganda. Plus those 'stimulating conversations' you refer to were one user having conversations with himself, under multiple names. More 'simulating' that 'stimulating'.

Worry not, your friend Duce is already back posting. See if you can spot who he is.
If you dont mind me asking you Boxbuzz ,How could have Il Duce have been sabotaging the Boxrec records?
Was he a moderator with an inside all pass accsess?

Doesn't Boxrec need at least one or more sources of info before it adds or seemingly corrects on the Boxrec records?
(and no,Iam not Il Duce.Its seems to me posters like Tuan_Jim are the trolls,
what he and others did to Il Duce seemed like Senior Citizen abuse on the inter-net.
Any fool could tell you that Il Duce was posting threads here that he was interested in for his own edification.
PS Be careful what you say here Yancey,you may be next!!!
Tuan_Juan ,you with your measley 327 ass-backward ignornat ill informed postings.
You couldnt carry Il Duce's jock-strap!!
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Post by BoxBuzz »

lol well he had a different relationship with that division, and had sold himself pretty well with the guards at the gate I guess.

So yes he had access, but not for long, and once his contributions to the database were reviewed, it was quickly recognized and corrected. So no long term damage done, the data base is after all, a labor of love, by human beings, and sometimes trust is lent out....but once verified to be false, trust can be withdrawn as well.

And yes, there need to be multiple sources before permanent changes can be made. But one can submit "pending" changes as I understand. Subject eventually to verification.

does this answer your questions?

I'll "trust" you are not the ol "Ducer" lol. Until further verification.....

See how it works?
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Post by Caractacus »

No not really.
I had contributed some info to the boxrec records in the past myself.
Namely DOD of a number of Heavyweight fighters that werent listed here.
But I did it over at the Boxing Records and Updates forum
and I always listed a hyper-link to the newspapers I found in it.
BTW Thanks for deleting two months of threads I spent Blood Sweat and Tears
working on after I got out of the hospital in March after having been there for six months .
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by Caractacus »

Tuan_Jim wrote:Evren, check out the brand new user 'Caractacus'.

He 'writes' with a 'lot' of the old 'Duce' oddities, such as the habitual misuse of 'symbols', 'apostrophes', and various other strange ~idiosyncrasies~.

He also regularly links to the same Google archives that Duce spent his spare minutes on, those rare moments he enjoyed between writing his fan fiction.
You know it could be that Il Duce and I may have been of roughly the same age demographics(Baby Boomers),education, and originally from the same part of the country(East Coast).
(although I always figured that he was at least ten years older then me)
BTW way Tuan_Jim ,do you mind me asking what your age and nationality is(or were it was that you were born rather?)
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by evrenb »

Caractacus wrote:
Tuan_Jim wrote:Evren, check out the brand new user 'Caractacus'.

He 'writes' with a 'lot' of the old 'Duce' oddities, such as the habitual misuse of 'symbols', 'apostrophes', and various other strange ~idiosyncrasies~.

He also regularly links to the same Google archives that Duce spent his spare minutes on, those rare moments he enjoyed between writing his fan fiction.
You know it could be that Il Duce and I may have been of roughly the same age demographics(Baby Boomers),education, and originally from the same part of the country(East Coast).
(although I always figured that he was at least ten years older then me)
BTW way Tuan_Jim ,do you mind me asking what your age and nationality is(or were it was that you were born rather?)
I know who you are!!
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Post by BoxBuzz »

Caractacus wrote:No not really.
I had contributed some info to the boxrec records in the past myself.
Namely DOD of a number of Heavyweight fighters that werent listed here.
But I did it over at the Boxing Records and Updates forum
and I always listed a hyper-link to the newspapers I found in it.
BTW Thanks for deleting two months of threads I spent Blood Sweat and Tears
working on after I got out of the hospital in March after having been there for six months .
I did not delete a thing. So I am the wrong person to thank.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by ThatOne »

Why couldn't Duce return but without the ability to alter the record section?


I thought he was funny.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by gilgamesh »

ThatOne wrote:Why couldn't Duce return but without the ability to alter the record section?


I thought he was funny.
I wasn't laughing.
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Post by ThatOne »

I missed all the drama...Sure he was an eccentric but why would he deliberately sabotage the records section?
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Post by Sheila »

ThatOne wrote:I missed all the drama...Sure he was an eccentric but why would he deliberately sabotage the records section?
Agree,

His posts had all the ingredients. A mixture of facts, wit and humor.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by ThatOne »

Sheila wrote:
ThatOne wrote:I missed all the drama...Sure he was an eccentric but why would he deliberately sabotage the records section?
Agree,

His posts had all the ingredients. A mixture of facts, wit and humor.

Yeah, but what did him in was sabotaging the records section. That was bound to go over very badly.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by gilgamesh »

ThatOne wrote:I missed all the drama...Sure he was an eccentric but why would he deliberately sabotage the records section?
That's an excuse I keep hearing. I find it odd that he "Sabotaged the records section" right around the time that Klompton was threatening to sue him and Boxrec for libel.

He was lying the entire time he was here, but the minute somebody starts crying "Lawsuit" then he gets banned.

I find it far more likely that's the reason why he was banned.
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Post by ThatOne »

He might still be among us.
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Re: Man, this place seems dead.

Post by dnahar32 »

I am one of the main editors that used Il Duce's information to add to the database and I am embarrassed about it. I have been contributing to the records and research of old boxers for years and I ignored several attempts by other researchers to remove Il Duce-contributed records, because I trusted the information and I didn't want to call a fellow poster a liar. The proof was overwhelming, however, and so now the process of modifying the database is underway. For everyone that was 'entertained,' feel free to read a novel. For those that care about the boxers and want accurate information about the men who sweat and bleed in the name of sport, I can assure you that this has not been an entertaining process.
BoxBuzz wrote:lol well he had a different relationship with that division, and had sold himself pretty well with the guards at the gate I guess.

So yes he had access, but not for long, and once his contributions to the database were reviewed, it was quickly recognized and corrected. So no long term damage done, the data base is after all, a labor of love, by human beings, and sometimes trust is lent out....but once verified to be false, trust can be withdrawn as well.

And yes, there need to be multiple sources before permanent changes can be made. But one can submit "pending" changes as I understand. Subject eventually to verification.

does this answer your questions?

I'll "trust" you are not the ol "Ducer" lol. Until further verification.....

See how it works?
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