Terence Crawford v Yuri Gamboa

[MightyWarrior]

Wow what a fight ! The emergence of a new American star. Ricky Burns lost his belt to a worthy champion, no doubt about that.
Gamboa looked a TNT puncher, even at 135, and was dangerous all the way; brave as hell too.

Crawford showed an iron chin, but even that was almost not enough: Gamboa almost got him in the 9th, even though commentators missed it, but Terence showed the stuff of champions to finish it like a super star.

Love Bo**nation - thank god we have them, and don't have to put up with those useless clowns at sky

[Datsue]

Wow what a fight & the emergence of a new American star. Ricky Burns lost his belt to a worthy champion no doubt about that.
Gamboa looked a TNT puncher even at 135, and was dangerous all the way, brave as hell too. Crawford showed an iron chin, but even that was almost not enough, Gamboa almost got him in the 9th, even though commentators missed it, but Terence showed the stuff of champions to finish it like a super star.

Yup. Crawford is just a daaaamn good ring mechanic. The boy knows his stuff. Very relaxed, lovely counters, tricky & a hurtful puncher. He seems very confident in his chin as well as his ability, which makes for a nice spectacle too.


I started a thread on it yesterday but no-one replied (probably due to the tenuous title I gave it!): http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=182570

As I blathered on about there, as soon as the edge had gone off Gamboa's physical advantages--& Crawford got over his now almost-trademark slow start, in which it seems he's prepared to give up advantages just to draw you in so he can start to get inside your rhythm--it became one-sided. Damn good job by Crawford, I felt a little at time he was prepared to trade with the Cuban just because he knew Yuri's faults would end with Gamboa coming off worst in the exchanges, or at least prompt the come-forward guy to make even more basic mistakes.

He handled an Olympic champion, a former world titlist & a very probable world-class roid-head the same way he did Alejandro Sanabria, ffs. Terence Crawford=bad motherfucker.

I really, really enjoy watching him fight. If he can still make the weight, I'd like to see him beat Vazquez before moving up.

[lefty]

I find Gamboa a hard one to work out. I thought in the first 3/4 rounds he was having a good amount of success when he was boxing in a measured manner but he he'd get reckless and wild and that's when he tended to get hurt and everything wen't to pot. Crawford is very good though.

[Datsue]

I find Gamboa a hard one to work out. I thought in the first 3/4 rounds he was having a good amount of success when he was boxing in a measured manner but he he'd get reckless and wild and that's when he tended to get hurt and everything wen't to pot. Crawford is very good though.

It's what he does. He does it in aaaall his pro fights: first three/four rounds, before someone can deal with the speed & power, he looks like a force of nature. Once he's started to slow a teensy bit & if he's in with a technically sound enough fella, his enormous flaws in technique--punching from the hip, squaring up when throwing the right, pulling back with his head up in the air, flicking with a nothing, range-finder jab just so he can find a home for the sledgehammer hooks & right crosses--become glaringly apparent.

Michael Farenas decked him in exactly the same manner that Crawford was catching him all night, once Gamboa slowed down. Darleys Perez--had he got a late knockdown he scored called correctly--would've scraped a draw, & once he adjusted to the speed & power clocked Gamboa all night long with counters, left hooks & jabs.

Gamboa is an amazing athlete, is brave as fvck & has great speed & power, but like a lot of amazingly athletic guys he's, technically speaking, put together with a fvcking knife & fork.

[MightyWarrior]

Yup. Crawford is just a daaaamn good ring mechanic. The boy knows his stuff. Very relaxed, lovely counters, tricky & a hurtful puncher. He seems very confident in his chin as well as his ability, which makes for a nice spectacle too.


I started a thread on it yesterday but no-one replied (probably due to the tenuous title I gave it!): http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=182570

As I blathered on about there, as soon as the edge had gone off Gamboa's physical advantages--& Crawford got over his now almost-trademark slow start, in which it seems he's prepared to give up advantages just to draw you in so he can start to get inside your rhythm--it became one-sided. Damn good job by Crawford, I felt a little at time he was prepared to trade with the Cuban just because he knew Yuri's faults would end with Gamboa coming off worst in the exchanges, or at least prompt the come-forward guy to make even more basic mistakes.

He handled an Olympic champion, a former world titlist & a very probable world-class roid-head the same way he did Alejandro Sanabria, ffs. Terence Crawford=bad motherfucker.

I really, really enjoy watching him fight. If he can still make the weight, I'd like to see him beat Vazquez before moving up.

Yeah agree with everything you say, on that other thread too, Crawford is just a beautiful ring mechanic and it was so amazing to watch, considering the guy he was up against has so much more boxing experience behind him, ( I assume, being Cuban, and Olympic champion, and Tel coming from the middle of bloody nowhere ) it was edge of your seat stuff, because the Cuban was missing with lethal lefts & rights by factions over the first few rounds ( and yes I was wondering about his bulked up physique too, if there was any rumours or worse, I must have missed them...or forgotten )

It always looked an old school fight: new champ taking on a top top contender = very rare these days

Mightily impressive

[lefty]

I find Gamboa a hard one to work out. I thought in the first 3/4 rounds he was having a good amount of success when he was boxing in a measured manner but he he'd get reckless and wild and that's when he tended to get hurt and everything wen't to pot. Crawford is very good though.

It's what he does. He does it in aaaall his pro fights: first three/four rounds, before someone can deal with the speed & power, he looks like a force of nature. Once he's started to slow a teensy bit & if he's in with a technically sound enough fella, his enormous flaws in technique--punching from the hip, squaring up when throwing the right, pulling back with his head up in the air, flicking with a nothing, range-finder jab just so he can find a home for the sledgehammer hooks & right crosses--become glaringly apparent.

Michael Farenas decked him in exactly the same manner that Crawford was catching him all night, once Gamboa slowed down. Darleys Perez--had he got a late knockdown he scored called correctly--would've scraped a draw, & once he adjusted to the speed & power clocked Gamboa all night long with counters, left hooks & jabs.

Gamboa is an amazing athlete, is brave as fvck & has great speed & power, but like a lot of amazingly athletic guys he's, technically speaking, put together with a fvcking knife & fork.

Ala Roy Jones jnr.

[Datsue]

Yup. Crawford is just a daaaamn good ring mechanic. The boy knows his stuff. Very relaxed, lovely counters, tricky & a hurtful puncher. He seems very confident in his chin as well as his ability, which makes for a nice spectacle too.


I started a thread on it yesterday but no-one replied (probably due to the tenuous title I gave it!): http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=182570

As I blathered on about there, as soon as the edge had gone off Gamboa's physical advantages--& Crawford got over his now almost-trademark slow start, in which it seems he's prepared to give up advantages just to draw you in so he can start to get inside your rhythm--it became one-sided. Damn good job by Crawford, I felt a little at time he was prepared to trade with the Cuban just because he knew Yuri's faults would end with Gamboa coming off worst in the exchanges, or at least prompt the come-forward guy to make even more basic mistakes.

He handled an Olympic champion, a former world titlist & a very probable world-class roid-head the same way he did Alejandro Sanabria, ffs. Terence Crawford=bad motherfucker.

I really, really enjoy watching him fight. If he can still make the weight, I'd like to see him beat Vazquez before moving up.

Yeah agree with everything you say, on that other thread too, Crawford is just a beautiful ring mechanic and it was so amazing to watch, considering the guy he was up against has so much more boxing experience behind him, ( I assume, being Cuban, and Olympic champion, and Tel coming from the middle of bloody nowhere ) it was edge of your seat stuff, because the Cuban was missing with lethal lefts & rights by factions over the first few rounds ( and yes I was wondering about his bulked up physique too, if there was any rumours or worse, I must have missed them...or forgotten )

It always looked an old school fight: new champ taking on a top top contender = very rare these days

Mightily impressive

Totally agree mate.

As for the extracurricular stuff, Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated lays it out here, the only time I've seen it even alluded to...

Relevant bits quoted below...

In a notebook obtained by the New York Times, Bosch outlined an extensive program for Gamboa, including a six-day-a-week HGH regime, IGF-1 -- a human growth hormone-like substance believed to boost strength and endurance -- and a cream with 20 percent testosterone.

In a country where there is a presumption of innocence, Gamboa is certainly entitled due process. But the fact that 12 baseball players accepted 50-game suspensions -- issued absent of a positive test, no less -- certainly speaks to the credibility of the report and the evidence Bosch had on each. Yet five months after the report came out, Gamboa was back in the ring, winning a unanimous decision, live on HBO, in front of a full house at the Bell Centre in Canada.

There was no investigation into Gamboa, no formal interviews done about what he did and when he did it. Only during fighter meetings, when quizzed by HBO's broadcast team, did Gamboa have to acknowledge that he took substances from the Biogenesis clinic, that he didn't know what they were and that he was no longer using them.

As I said on t'other thread, I assume he thought the cream was going to nourish his epidermis & make sure that hands that do dishes could be as soft as his face, whilst he was weight-lifting.

[Datsue]

I find Gamboa a hard one to work out. I thought in the first 3/4 rounds he was having a good amount of success when he was boxing in a measured manner but he he'd get reckless and wild and that's when he tended to get hurt and everything wen't to pot. Crawford is very good though.

It's what he does. He does it in aaaall his pro fights: first three/four rounds, before someone can deal with the speed & power, he looks like a force of nature. Once he's started to slow a teensy bit & if he's in with a technically sound enough fella, his enormous flaws in technique--punching from the hip, squaring up when throwing the right, pulling back with his head up in the air, flicking with a nothing, range-finder jab just so he can find a home for the sledgehammer hooks & right crosses--become glaringly apparent.

Michael Farenas decked him in exactly the same manner that Crawford was catching him all night, once Gamboa slowed down. Darleys Perez--had he got a late knockdown he scored called correctly--would've scraped a draw, & once he adjusted to the speed & power clocked Gamboa all night long with counters, left hooks & jabs.

Gamboa is an amazing athlete, is brave as fvck & has great speed & power, but like a lot of amazingly athletic guys he's, technically speaking, put together with a fvcking knife & fork.

Ala Roy Jones jnr.

Yup. & to a much lesser extent, the likes of Andre Berto. They get away with their flaws for so long, but when the athleticism don't work there's nothing to fall back on.

Apart from Yuri's mahoooooooosive heart & actually quite solid chin. One might think it weird that I think he's got a solid chin because he just got KTFO'd & has been down about half a dozen times before, but I think it must be. He gets hit so square on & so solidly he's got nowhere to go but down, but the boy is made of iron.

I think a lot of fighters wouldn't have been able to keep him down last night, the way he kept coming.

[MightyWarrior]

Yikes, so he was on the juice then....looking at his cast iron build can't say I'm too surprised - makes Crawford's win even more impressive, because it looked like he was in with superman for awhile there, before he detonated the Kryptonite KABOOM

[handsofstone]

Really,really good fight and not the cagey outside fighting one i imagined,Gamboa looked really sharp first 4 rounds but being Gamboa got decked as per but this time he was in with a quality opponent who didnt let him off the hook,he's a bit of an enigma is Gamboa

Terence looked great and showed a lot of heart as Yuriorkis caught him with some good shots,cant believe how bad Gamboa's defence is though,how many times is that he's been dropped now? He's one tough SOB though i'll give him that

[reggaereggae]

Boxing is a strange business. Now suddenly Burns's performance seems pretty decent. Despite his loss last night.....

[Horse]

Boxing is a strange business. Now suddenly Burns's performance seems pretty decent. Despite his loss last night.....

No, it doesn't. Burns was awful against Crawford.

If Gamboa had an average chin he would have beaten Crawford comfortably.

[Boxerbeetle]

Boxing is a strange business. Now suddenly Burns's performance seems pretty decent. Despite his loss last night.....

No, it doesn't. Burns was awful against Crawford.

If Gamboa had an average chin he would have beaten Crawford comfortably.

Burns was terrible that night & only lasted the full 12 as he spent the majority of the fight with his gloves around his ears. If he'd tried to make a fight of it like Gamboa did, he'd have been stopped.

[revporl]

Crawford looked better last night than he did against Ricky. He was almost Hearns-esque against Gamboa. On that level of performance, he would have stopped Burns

[Datsue]

Really,really good fight and not the cagey outside fighting one i imagined,Gamboa looked really sharp first 4 rounds but being Gamboa got decked as per but this time he was in with a quality opponent who didnt let him off the hook,he's a bit of an enigma is Gamboa

Terence looked great and showed a lot of heart as Yuriorkis caught him with some good shots,cant believe how bad Gamboa's defence is though,how many times is that he's been dropped now? He's one tough SOB though i'll give him that

I had a count, & I think it's ten, officially. People diss Wlad for being dropped ten times, but he's had 60-odd fights!

Also, having seen that, who'd like to see Crawford slap Adrien Broner around for shits & giggles?

[Final round]

Agree with all of ya. Crawford showed steel, chin and power. I knew he had technique and Gamboa played his part very well, caught Crawford hard at times. I couldn't believe Merchant did not see he was hurt. Crawford practically limped backwards out of range.
I'd watch a rematch.

[expe]

Really,really good fight and not the cagey outside fighting one i imagined,Gamboa looked really sharp first 4 rounds but being Gamboa got decked as per but this time he was in with a quality opponent who didnt let him off the hook,he's a bit of an enigma is Gamboa

Terence looked great and showed a lot of heart as Yuriorkis caught him with some good shots,cant believe how bad Gamboa's defence is though,how many times is that he's been dropped now? He's one tough SOB though i'll give him that

I had a count, & I think it's ten, officially. People diss Wlad for being dropped ten times, but he's had 60-odd fights!

Also, having seen that, who'd like to see Crawford slap Adrien Broner around for shits & giggles?

I'd rather see Matthyse have a go first, Crawford can knock the sh!t out of what's left of him.

[Tanzio]

Boxing is a strange business. Now suddenly Burns's performance seems pretty decent. Despite his loss last night.....

No, it doesn't. Burns was awful against Crawford.

If Gamboa had an average chin he would have beaten Crawford comfortably.

LMFvckingAO, you are no doubt a lawyer.

[Tanzio]

Boxing is a strange business. Now suddenly Burns's performance seems pretty decent. Despite his loss last night.....

No, it doesn't. Burns was awful against Crawford.

If Gamboa had an average chin he would have beaten Crawford comfortably.

Burns was terrible that night & only lasted the full 12 as he spent the majority of the fight with his gloves around his ears. If he'd tried to make a fight of it like Gamboa did, he'd have been stopped.

True

[dbf]

I like Crawford, he's calm under pressure, doesn't rush and has a nice style with good technique. But, lets not get carried away with this win. Gamboa really shouldn't be fighting at LW - is was like a LWW v FW in there. Gamboa, was looking good over those first 4 rounds but as many predicted he kind of fizzled out a bit and Crawford used his advantages.

I'd like to see Crawford up at LWW taking on some of the best (think he's ready for it). Gamboa should be at 130 and could have some entertaining match ups there - Salido rematch?

[Gazmac81]

i hope to see more of crawford in big fights , the place was packed out and had great atmosphere even coming through the Tv , thats what its all about

[bigB]

Who do you reckon would beat Crawford at 135 now with the current crop of fighters coming through?

[MightyWarrior]

Is he probably the best at 135 already ? It looks a lacklustre division these days, and it might not be worth the effort of him moving to LW yet, until a really big fight looms.

If his manager is any good he should look to build him as a massive hometown star in Omaha, frequent defences, as many as possible, as he builds up his rep and bank balance.

First big test he out classes Prescott at short notice, then goes to Glasgow to get his belt, then takes on an undefeated big punching Cuban star in his first defence - not bad so far

[Datsue]

Whilst making it clear that I am fully aware that Crawford enjoyed a size advantage--these contact lenses do work, thank you--there's someone on the Current Scene claiming that he only won because he was the bigger dude.

& furthermore, goes on & compares him to... Wait for it... Waaaaiiiit.....

Brandon Cunting Rios.

I... I just... I mean...

Gah.

[gilgamesh]

Whilst making it clear that I am fully aware that Crawford enjoyed a size advantage--these contact lenses do work, thank you--there's someone on the Current Scene claiming that he only won because he was the bigger dude.

& furthermore, goes on & compares him to... Wait for it... Waaaaiiiit.....

Brandon Cunting Rios.

I... I just... I mean...

Gah.

Yep I've made quite a few comments to this guy about the same thing you're mentioning here. Rios and Crawford couldn't be any more different as fighters.

The article he posted twice is pretty terrible too. It gives Crawford virtually no credit for the performance at all.