Could this 5 year old kid be the next Mike Tyson?

[Mimmy]

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum ... ar-144577/

I knew it wouldnt be many years to wait for the next kid to emerge as the next 'big thing' to save the world of boxing. I just hope this young lad stays clear of trouble, drugs and crack whores and gets mentored in the right way.

Only 5 years old so only have to wait 13 years until this kid takes on the world.

[crusader]

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum ... ar-144577/

I knew it wouldnt be many years to wait for the next kid to emerge as the next 'big thing' to save the world of boxing.

Are you seriously suggesting that a 5 year old with presumably no or very limited competitive history is going to save boxing based on a short clip of him hitting the pads?

There are plenty of these 'super kids' out there. I'd be more impressed if they actually showed that ability in the ring rather than on pads or bags, not to mention that there are loads of other factors that may prevent them from becoming highly successful in the sport, such as competing interests and legal problems. Obviously these kids seems to be showing potential to be good boxers, but becoming an elite professional requires a lot more than looking great on the pads as a youngster.

By the way, the most successful of these YouTube sensations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHEY8NGtuD0) that I know of is Ryuto Kyoguchi, who is now 11-0-1 as a pro and ranked 51st at featherweight by BoxRec. It should be interesting to see how many of these kids end up as the very successful pros people often claim they can be.

[stevieb_8006]

he looks great, but far too early to predict greatness. he might lose interest, might be chinny, might get injured, might not like getting hit......

I always feel a bit sorry for these kids that have to live their dads dreams for them (RJJ for example). They should be left to find their own expression.

[rm1]

over training a kid is the surest way to ruin any potential. So NO.

[stevieb_8006]

over training a kid is the surest way to ruin any potential. So NO.

true. he'll prob burn out

[Sklar]

In answer to the question "Could this 5 year old kid be the next Mike Tyson?" the answer is a resounding "no". (on the basis that he's the age claimed and not younger) That child is never going to be a heavyweight boxer, even a relatively short one like Mike was. That kid will make 5'7" or 5'8" tops. He looks really good on the pads though, so if he sticks with it, he might be a good lightweight one day.

[danconnollyeire]

Yes, No, Maybe, I dunno... he's 5

[SteveDow]

Great work on the pads but as others have said it's way to early to be predicting anything.

[TJ77]

Link won't open so can't really comment on the video.
I echo the other posters sentiments re child prodigy.
Football has a lot more players at top level than boxing.
And we all know a lad "who could of turned pro".
Good luck to him and I hope for his sake his Dad isn't another one living vicariously.
Tim Bradley's old man used to tie him to his truck and make him run behind it. That was a KKK torture :

[lefty]

In answer to the question "Could this 5 year old kid be the next Mike Tyson?" the answer is a resounding "no". (on the basis that he's the age claimed and not younger) That child is never going to be a heavyweight boxer, even a relatively short one like Mike was. That kid will make 5'7" or 5'8" tops. He looks really good on the pads though, so if he sticks with it, he might be a good lightweight one day.

How can you tell how tall he's going to end up at 5 though? lol

[ttornado]

How can you tell how tall he's going to end up at 5 though? lol

Biology, maths and whatnot!

Multiple regression equations for predicting the adult height of boys and girls from height and bone age at ages 4 and upwards are presented. There is a separate equation for each half year of chronological age; and for pre- and postmenarcheal girls at ages 11 to 14. These are based on longitudinal data from 116 boys and 95 girls of the Harpenden Growth Study and the London group of the International Children's Centre longitudinal study. The bone age used is the revised version of the Tanner-Whitehouse standards, omitting the score for carpal bones (RUS age, TW 2 system). Boys aged 4 to 12 are predicted in 95% of instances to within plus or minus 7 cm of true height, and at ages 13 and 14 to within plus or minus 6 cm. Girls ages 4 to 11 are predicted to within plus or minus 6 cm; premenarcheal girls aged 12 and 13 to within plus or minus 5 and plus or minus 4 cm, respectively; and postmenarcheal girls aged 12 and 13 to within plus or minus 4 and plus or minus 3 cm, respectively. Prediction can be somewhat imporved by allowing for midparent height. One-third of the amount that midparent height differs from mean midparent height is added or subtracted. An alternative system of equations which are based on initial classification by bone age rather than chronological age is given. These have about the same accuracy as the equations based on initial classification by chronological age, but allowance for bone age retardation is less. It is not clear which system is preferable. The equations probably apply to girls complaining of tall stature and boys or girls complaining of shortness and needing reassurance as to normality. In clearly pathological children, such as those with endocrinopathies, they do not apply.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1544488/

[Anzi]

In answer to the question "Could this 5 year old kid be the next Mike Tyson?" the answer is a resounding "no". (on the basis that he's the age claimed and not younger) That child is never going to be a heavyweight boxer, even a relatively short one like Mike was. That kid will make 5'7" or 5'8" tops. He looks really good on the pads though, so if he sticks with it, he might be a good lightweight one day.

How can you tell how tall he's going to end up at 5 though? lol

Assumptions on here are par for the course lol.

[Sklar]

In answer to the question "Could this 5 year old kid be the next Mike Tyson?" the answer is a resounding "no". (on the basis that he's the age claimed and not younger) That child is never going to be a heavyweight boxer, even a relatively short one like Mike was. That kid will make 5'7" or 5'8" tops. He looks really good on the pads though, so if he sticks with it, he might be a good lightweight one day.

How can you tell how tall he's going to end up at 5 though? lol

Assumptions on here are par for the course lol.

Basic anthropology and the clear fact he is a very short five-year-old (or all the furniture is dramatically oversized).

[freddydoesdallas]

In answer to the question "Could this 5 year old kid be the next Mike Tyson?" the answer is a resounding "no". (on the basis that he's the age claimed and not younger) That child is never going to be a heavyweight boxer, even a relatively short one like Mike was. That kid will make 5'7" or 5'8" tops. He looks really good on the pads though, so if he sticks with it, he might be a good lightweight one day.

How can you tell how tall he's going to end up at 5 though? lol

Assumptions on here are par for the course lol.

Best way to tell this would be to look at the height of his mum which is what the NBA scouts do. If she's short, he's out.

In response to the original question, anyone picked out as a boy wonder will let it get to their head and have it easy which will mean they never realise their potential

[lefty]

How can you tell how tall he's going to end up at 5 though? lol

Biology, maths and whatnot!

Multiple regression equations for predicting the adult height of boys and girls from height and bone age at ages 4 and upwards are presented. There is a separate equation for each half year of chronological age; and for pre- and postmenarcheal girls at ages 11 to 14. These are based on longitudinal data from 116 boys and 95 girls of the Harpenden Growth Study and the London group of the International Children's Centre longitudinal study. The bone age used is the revised version of the Tanner-Whitehouse standards, omitting the score for carpal bones (RUS age, TW 2 system). Boys aged 4 to 12 are predicted in 95% of instances to within plus or minus 7 cm of true height, and at ages 13 and 14 to within plus or minus 6 cm. Girls ages 4 to 11 are predicted to within plus or minus 6 cm; premenarcheal girls aged 12 and 13 to within plus or minus 5 and plus or minus 4 cm, respectively; and postmenarcheal girls aged 12 and 13 to within plus or minus 4 and plus or minus 3 cm, respectively. Prediction can be somewhat imporved by allowing for midparent height. One-third of the amount that midparent height differs from mean midparent height is added or subtracted. An alternative system of equations which are based on initial classification by bone age rather than chronological age is given. These have about the same accuracy as the equations based on initial classification by chronological age, but allowance for bone age retardation is less. It is not clear which system is preferable. The equations probably apply to girls complaining of tall stature and boys or girls complaining of shortness and needing reassurance as to normality. In clearly pathological children, such as those with endocrinopathies, they do not apply.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1544488/

I very much doubt Sklar has sat down analyzing that though to be fair lol

[forcefraser]

When I was 16 I worked for a tarmac gang for about 2 weeks. They were travellers and needed some young slave to do the donkey work.

The truck driver was a proper headcase, spoke like Brad Pitt in Snatch.

He told me that his son "Stevie lee" was a top fighter and would easily become Irish champion when he was older.

It turned out that the poor little bugger was 3 years old. His Dad was clearly insane and he had a little catchphrase that he constantly barked out about his son "Stevie lee, proper hard case, he wont back down, Bang, straight in with the nut"

The kid would be late 20's now. Doubt he ever made champion.

[johnswan1]

I doubt this kid will be the next Tyson because I am sure I saw this very video years ago in another thread. On that basis this kid is probably already a teenager and I have not seen a clip of him since this one was done, so I am guessing he has not progressed.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Fvcking joke how slowly the kid is being moved. He is clearly ready for Katsunari Takayama, but they keep matching him against fvking heavy bags and guys with pads.

[handsofstone]

Fvcking joke how slowly the kid is being moved. He is clearly ready for Katsunari Takayama, but they keep matching him against fvking heavy bags and guys with pads.

Class

[jessi]

Yes, No, Maybe, I dunno... he's 5

X2

[Mimmy]

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum ... ar-144577/

I knew it wouldnt be many years to wait for the next kid to emerge as the next 'big thing' to save the world of boxing.

Are you seriously suggesting that a 5 year old with presumably no or very limited competitive history is going to save boxing based on a short clip of him hitting the pads?

There are plenty of these 'super kids' out there. I'd be more impressed if they actually showed that ability in the ring rather than on pads or bags, not to mention that there are loads of other factors that may prevent them from becoming highly successful in the sport, such as competing interests and legal problems. Obviously these kids seems to be showing potential to be good boxers, but becoming an elite professional requires a lot more than looking great on the pads as a youngster.

By the way, the most successful of these YouTube sensations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHEY8NGtuD0) that I know of is Ryuto Kyoguchi, who is now 11-0-1 as a pro and ranked 51st at featherweight by BoxRec. It should be interesting to see how many of these kids end up as the very successful pros people often claim they can be.

Hey, read the damn title the operative word 'could' (edited the word loud mouth out of the reply after the word 'Hey' as its just not me to say such things)

http://www.englishpage.com/modals/could.html

Read under the headline subject 'Could'

[rpms]

Fvcking joke how slowly the kid is being moved. He is clearly ready for Katsunari Takayama, but they keep matching him against fvking heavy bags and guys with pads.

Marvellous

[Mimmy]

In answer to the question "Could this 5 year old kid be the next Mike Tyson?" the answer is a resounding "no". (on the basis that he's the age claimed and not younger) That child is never going to be a heavyweight boxer, even a relatively short one like Mike was. That kid will make 5'7" or 5'8" tops. He looks really good on the pads though, so if he sticks with it, he might be a good lightweight one day.

Tyson was only 5 foot 8 wasnt he?

[Mimmy]

Great work on the pads but as others have said it's way to early to be predicting anything.

of course its too early, you miss the potential of the thread and the kid and the word 'could' its all a dream of the future and what could be that is all.

[Controversial]

Reminds me of BamBam a few years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0ds9b5ljo